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$8 Lamp (Outlet) "Smart Plug" Module

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    johnr
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    #15

    Hi,

    Sorry I Think I expressed myself to short and incorrect on my way to work.

    I really like this Project. My personal problem is that when you have many sensors, sooner or later you run out of old chargers ;)

    Therefore for the relay (wallplug) it would be nice to find a small ac/dc power supply, which is easy to integrate into the breadboard/pcb.

    The Meanwell that I linked to i also availible in 5w, but personally I had some problems in the past, with the current consumption of the relays, using sub wall-warts. This is why I am thinking 10w.

    Mean well have nice quality but pricing is quite high. Would be nice to find an alternative with enough quality that you can trust that it wont burst into flames.

    Edit: Mybe this tread is the correct one to discuss ac/dc converters. http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/687/230v-power-supply-to-arduino

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      Hi,

      Sorry I Think I expressed myself to short and incorrect on my way to work.

      I really like this Project. My personal problem is that when you have many sensors, sooner or later you run out of old chargers ;)

      Therefore for the relay (wallplug) it would be nice to find a small ac/dc power supply, which is easy to integrate into the breadboard/pcb.

      The Meanwell that I linked to i also availible in 5w, but personally I had some problems in the past, with the current consumption of the relays, using sub wall-warts. This is why I am thinking 10w.

      Mean well have nice quality but pricing is quite high. Would be nice to find an alternative with enough quality that you can trust that it wont burst into flames.

      Edit: Mybe this tread is the correct one to discuss ac/dc converters. http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/687/230v-power-supply-to-arduino

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      RJ_Make
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      @johnr It doesn't look like that series has any temperature protection??

      RJ_Make

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        servicexp, no I guess it have only over current protection.

        I am going to test a smaller 5w converter. MW irm-05-5 which I was able to get for a ok price through work. It has also smaller physical dimensions.

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          servicexp, no I guess it have only over current protection.

          I am going to test a smaller 5w converter. MW irm-05-5 which I was able to get for a ok price through work. It has also smaller physical dimensions.

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          @johnr said:

          servicexp, no I guess it have only over current protection.

          I am going to test a smaller 5w converter. MW irm-05-5 which I was able to get for a ok price through work. It has also smaller physical dimensions.

          Nice, let us know how it works! I also find I run out of chargers. Thankfully I can get them from work occasionally when people recycle their old phone chargers.

          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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            @johnr said:

            servicexp, no I guess it have only over current protection.

            I am going to test a smaller 5w converter. MW irm-05-5 which I was able to get for a ok price through work. It has also smaller physical dimensions.

            Nice, let us know how it works! I also find I run out of chargers. Thankfully I can get them from work occasionally when people recycle their old phone chargers.

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            @petewill

            Or hotel lost and found...

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              petewill
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              @BulldogLowell yeah, good idea! I wonder if electronics stores may have them too. I know Best Buy has a electronics recycling program. Maybe they get them there too? I just got a fresh supply from work so I should be good for a little while :)

              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                Mohsin Hassan
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                Hey Hi. Awesome project.
                Just a quick though, could i just a Pro mini 5V and skip the whole voltage regulator part? or would that need some additional changes to the project?

                Thank :+1:

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                • Mohsin HassanM Mohsin Hassan

                  Hey Hi. Awesome project.
                  Just a quick though, could i just a Pro mini 5V and skip the whole voltage regulator part? or would that need some additional changes to the project?

                  Thank :+1:

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                  @Mohsin-Hassan Do you mean a 3.3v pro mini? If so, then you should be able to. The radio requires 3.3v to work. You would need to take the 5v from the phone charger to power the relay.

                  My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                    DanielD
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                    @petewill

                    Hello, how are you?
                    Man, I understood how you do this project, but Have one thing I doesn't understand, How you sync the plug with your cellphone?
                    Because intro the plug have a Arduino and RF Module.
                    Could you explain me?
                    Thx :)

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                      @DanielD said:

                      How you sync the plug with your cellphone?

                      I use a Vera for my home automation controller. MySensors has a plugin for Vera so the cellphone app is actually for Vera. I can issue a command through my phone to Vera which will then send the command to the MySensors device.

                      Hopefully that makes sense.

                      Pete

                      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                        DanielD
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                        @petewill

                        Okay, I thought that you create a device smilar to Vera.
                        Because I thinking do this.
                        Do you have any ideia how I do this?
                        Thx

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                          petewill
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                          @DanielD said:

                          Do you have any ideia how I do this?

                          No, sorry. It would probably be easier for you to use an existing controller that already works with MySensors though. Check out the list here: http://www.mysensors.org/controller/

                          I'm sure some of them already have phone apps but I'm not sure which ones. I haven't looked at anything other than Vera.

                          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                            DanielD
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                            @petewill
                            mm, I will install one of these in my PC and I will buy a ethernet bord, and make a gateway ethernet.
                            But what I do not understand is How the Web Site will send a rf signal from arduino
                            Okay I know I should connect the ethernet bord in arduino and rf transmisor, but how do
                            sensor received this signal I know I will put rf receiver inside.
                            But the code of ethernet gateway doesn't have nothing about the transmissor.
                            If you don't understand something ask me.
                            Thx

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                              petewill
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                              @DanielD said:

                              But the code of ethernet gateway doesn't have nothing about the transmissor.

                              Right. That's where the controller comes in. I use Vera so when I press the on button in the Vera interface it sends the command through the gateway to the sensor (smart outlet).

                              If you are try do it cheaply you may want to look into openhab. I haven't used it but I know it runs on a raspberry pi.

                              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                DanielD
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                                @petewill

                                Hmm,Okay
                                I will try make a device type Vera because,in my country doesn't exists.
                                If I buy at site and ask to ship me Will cost very expensive, therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
                                Could you help me?
                                Thx

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                                  @petewill

                                  Hmm,Okay
                                  I will try make a device type Vera because,in my country doesn't exists.
                                  If I buy at site and ask to ship me Will cost very expensive, therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
                                  Could you help me?
                                  Thx

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                                  andriej
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                                  @DanielD just get yourself an raspberry.

                                  :-)

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                                    DanielD
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                                    @andriej
                                    I have a raspberry, but I think use only arudino.

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                                      petewill
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                                      @DanielD said:

                                      therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
                                      Could you help me?

                                      Unfortunately I don't know how to do that. The best thing I can suggest is to use one of the existing controllers. If you already have a raspberry pi there is free software for it. Try one of those. That way you don't have to recreate anything.

                                      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                        DanielD
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                                        @petewill

                                        Hmm,
                                        Okay, but I think I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

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                                          petewill
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                                          @DanielD said:

                                          I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

                                          You probably want to check out this: http://www.mysensors.org/about/ and this: http://www.openhab.org/

                                          It will will take some learning and I suggest you start out small. See if you can get OpenHab up and running first. When you understand that you can start using MySensors. I had my Vera for a few months before I started learning MySensors. It was helpful to learn the controller before MySensors.

                                          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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