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  • D DanielD

    @petewill

    Hmm,Okay
    I will try make a device type Vera because,in my country doesn't exists.
    If I buy at site and ask to ship me Will cost very expensive, therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
    Could you help me?
    Thx

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    andriej
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    @DanielD just get yourself an raspberry.

    :-)

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      DanielD
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      @andriej
      I have a raspberry, but I think use only arudino.

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        petewill
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        @DanielD said:

        therefore I try make a device similar to vera :/
        Could you help me?

        Unfortunately I don't know how to do that. The best thing I can suggest is to use one of the existing controllers. If you already have a raspberry pi there is free software for it. Try one of those. That way you don't have to recreate anything.

        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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          @petewill

          Hmm,
          Okay, but I think I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

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            petewill
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            @DanielD said:

            I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

            You probably want to check out this: http://www.mysensors.org/about/ and this: http://www.openhab.org/

            It will will take some learning and I suggest you start out small. See if you can get OpenHab up and running first. When you understand that you can start using MySensors. I had my Vera for a few months before I started learning MySensors. It was helpful to learn the controller before MySensors.

            My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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              almj
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              Thank you very much for detailed description!
              But I cannot understand how to send commands from OpenHab to turn relay on and off. Please direct me.
              After a long time I can finally get the messages from sensors via serial connection, but not the other way.
              Cheers!

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              • A almj

                Thank you very much for detailed description!
                But I cannot understand how to send commands from OpenHab to turn relay on and off. Please direct me.
                After a long time I can finally get the messages from sensors via serial connection, but not the other way.
                Cheers!

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                petewill
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                @almj I use Vera as my controller so I'm not sure how to set up OpenHab. I know there are some instructions for setting it up here on the forum. If you're still stuck you may get better responses by posting to a new topic. Sorry I can't be more help.

                My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                  bytedeez
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                  Is it really that difficult or expensive to get old chargers?
                  I found 10 for $10.99 on ebay.
                  :stuck_out_tongue:

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                  • B bytedeez

                    Is it really that difficult or expensive to get old chargers?
                    I found 10 for $10.99 on ebay.
                    :stuck_out_tongue:

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                    petewill
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                    @bytedeez Nah, it's not that hard or expensive. It's always nice to get them free when you can though :)

                    My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                      Douglas
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                      Hello,

                      Which is connected to the relay in the diagram???

                      Thanks,

                      Douglas (Brasil)

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                      • D Douglas

                        Hello,

                        Which is connected to the relay in the diagram???

                        Thanks,

                        Douglas (Brasil)

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                        petewill
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                        @Douglas I just used the standard wiring from the build page here: http://www.mysensors.org/build/relay

                        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                          sundberg84
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                          #41

                          Hi @petewill!
                          I made this :) Great video :+1:

                          I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                          In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                          Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                          Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                          and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            Hi @petewill!
                            I made this :) Great video :+1:

                            I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                            In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                            Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                            Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                            and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

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                            @sundberg84 said:

                            Hi @petewill!
                            I made this :) Great video :+1:

                            I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                            This could also be a power or a wiring issue. But, the antenna is an easy modification so it wouldn't hurt to try this first. Another test is to move the device closer to your gateway. If it still stops after 5-6 times then it probably isn't communication issues.

                            In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                            Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                            Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                            No, I left the shielding on the wire. Sorry, I should have specified that.

                            and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

                            I think 3.28 inches is 83.312 millimeters (at least that's what google says it is).

                            My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                              I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                              • separated power supplies
                              • capacitors
                              • shielding

                              Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

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                                @AWI Hmm, ok... will give it a try and report back if i find anything...

                                It seems to be both range and spikes? The sensor works great without anything connected to 240v out but as soon as i connect anything like a lamp it fails within 5 on/off. Also when i move it close to the gw but then atleast it works without any 240v connected.

                                The SSD relays, is that something like this?
                                http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-5V-DC-1-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Board-module-High-Level-fuse-for-arduino-/191563980850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c9a1a6032

                                Any downsides with SSR relays?

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  @AWI Hmm, ok... will give it a try and report back if i find anything...

                                  It seems to be both range and spikes? The sensor works great without anything connected to 240v out but as soon as i connect anything like a lamp it fails within 5 on/off. Also when i move it close to the gw but then atleast it works without any 240v connected.

                                  The SSD relays, is that something like this?
                                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-5V-DC-1-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Board-module-High-Level-fuse-for-arduino-/191563980850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c9a1a6032

                                  Any downsides with SSR relays?

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                                  AWI
                                  Hero Member
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                                  @sundberg84 I have never found these before. Sounds like an interesting option. Made myself boards like these
                                  The 'downside' of these is that there can be a leak voltage when the output is left open.

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                                    sundberg84
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                                    @AWI Your link didnt work (typo)
                                    Ill give these a try and let post if they are any good.

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    • AWIA AWI

                                      I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                                      • separated power supplies
                                      • capacitors
                                      • shielding

                                      Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

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                                      petewill
                                      Admin
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                                      @AWI said:

                                      I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                                      • separated power supplies
                                      • capacitors
                                      • shielding

                                      Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

                                      Strange. I have been using mine for months without any issues. It is triggered by motion in my family room so it is used every day multiple times. Were you powering the relay from the Arduino or directly from the 5v?

                                      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                        #48

                                        @petewill In my case from VCC from arduino. I try to change incoming to raw and see if that makes any differens.

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          @petewill In my case from VCC from arduino. I try to change incoming to raw and see if that makes any differens.

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                                          petewill
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                                          @sundberg84 said:

                                          @petewill In my case from VCC from arduino. I try to change incoming to raw and see if that makes any differens.

                                          Yeah, let me know. It's been a while, so I don't remember what project I had issues with, but I had issues with power when I was using the Arduino 5V. I always try to pull power from the source (not Arduino) whenever I can now. Hopefully this will help your issue.

                                          My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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