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What did you build today (Pictures) ?

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  • monteM monte

    @scalz but why do you need this on an already working node? Mysensors has backward compatibility so far. Do you expect any improvements from updated sensor libraries for a working node? In this case, you of course would need proper FOTA.

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    #901

    @monte said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

    @scalz but why do you need this on an already working node? Mysensors has backward compatibility so far. Do you expect any improvements from updated sensor libraries for a working node? In this case, you of course would need proper FOTA.

    I don't think that a major fw release (MySensors in this case) always guarantees full backward compatibility.
    Perhaps not for a sensor lib (but who knows), still, if not for any core updates, do you expect any improvements from updated MySensors lib for a working node/network? If no, then you don't need fota ;)
    app settings != app/fw update

    [edit]
    Examples when you may need to flash your fw (wirelessly or with a programming tool):

    • it was not possible to have backward compatibility between old and new rfm69 drivers (new driver brought lot of improvements for green rf like adaptive TX power, power consumption etc).
      So it required updating network (gw and all nodes). This can happen eventually for a major release (v2->v3 or v3->v4..), a major release could allow "controlled" breaking change if no other way.
    • bugs fixes in MySensors files (core, transport, security..)
    • new features updates if needed (in MySensors, or your own sketch), easy to imagine, so many things to improve
    • etc
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    • scalzS scalz

      @monte said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

      @scalz but why do you need this on an already working node? Mysensors has backward compatibility so far. Do you expect any improvements from updated sensor libraries for a working node? In this case, you of course would need proper FOTA.

      I don't think that a major fw release (MySensors in this case) always guarantees full backward compatibility.
      Perhaps not for a sensor lib (but who knows), still, if not for any core updates, do you expect any improvements from updated MySensors lib for a working node/network? If no, then you don't need fota ;)
      app settings != app/fw update

      [edit]
      Examples when you may need to flash your fw (wirelessly or with a programming tool):

      • it was not possible to have backward compatibility between old and new rfm69 drivers (new driver brought lot of improvements for green rf like adaptive TX power, power consumption etc).
        So it required updating network (gw and all nodes). This can happen eventually for a major release (v2->v3 or v3->v4..), a major release could allow "controlled" breaking change if no other way.
      • bugs fixes in MySensors files (core, transport, security..)
      • new features updates if needed (in MySensors, or your own sketch), easy to imagine, so many things to improve
      • etc
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      @scalz as time goes I'm becoming more "Ain't broke, don't fix it" guy. Let's say, you've installed relay node somewhere outdoors, that has been working for a couple years. What exactly would you want to improve by reflashing it with updated library? Or maybe not a relay, but any other node, you have in mind, that could benefit from this action.
      Once again, I don't want to argue, just clearing things out for myself.
      Thanks :)

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        wrote on last edited by scalz
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        @monte I get it. I think this is off topic here, maybe open a new thread if you need to ask people why/when they need to update their systems, reflash their devices etc
        ( I have edited my previous reply with a few more examples in case it would be more clear)

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        • scalzS scalz

          @monte I get it. I think this is off topic here, maybe open a new thread if you need to ask people why/when they need to update their systems, reflash their devices etc
          ( I have edited my previous reply with a few more examples in case it would be more clear)

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          wrote on last edited by monte
          #904

          @scalz I agree that this conversation is off topic, and I indeed started a separate thread before I posted replies here. Fell free to express your thoughts here, if you want: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/10895/modular-sketch-to-be-configured-with-json-idea/

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          • Nca78N Nca78

            @NeverDie said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

            @Nca78 Looked at another way, once installed and sealed up it will also be a sort of time capsule. :+1:

            I said hidden and not sealed. Unless you have worked really hard on the FOTA for nrf52 ? :p

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            Have finished RIB king gate opener/controller based on NRF52840 & MySensors.
            RIB king gate controller.jpg image url)

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            • X xmonika

              Have finished RIB king gate opener/controller based on NRF52840 & MySensors.
              RIB king gate controller.jpg image url)

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              #906

              @xmonika Nice work! I really like how you very artfully leveraged pre-made boards into such a compact assemblage. Is the backplane something that you self etched or CNC'd?

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @xmonika Nice work! I really like how you very artfully leveraged pre-made boards into such a compact assemblage. Is the backplane something that you self etched or CNC'd?

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                @NeverDie a big thank you as I was inspired by many of your post and this was my first Nrf5 project. The backplate is designed in KiCAD and then outsourced for etching to one local semi-hobby service. Modules are then connected via precision header pins (concept inspired by Ardumower)

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                  Today I finally assembled some of my new PCB's

                  2 New front PCB's (a repeater and a LED-Dimmer)
                  1 New Back PCB that can be used as just an AC/DC power supply or as part of the AC current side of the LED-Dimmer

                  The last inwall repeater I made was just one PCB, and during installation, I got zapped :cry: , so I tried to make a 3D design to counter that.
                  The part that is the furthest in the wall is the AC side, and the microcontrollers, etc (DC-side) are at the front. Both are connected using 4 pins and are fastened by 4, 3m standoffs

                  I think this is much safer when, for instance, the front cover is taken off. (i use the same design as: LINK)

                  Pictures show the FL5150 dimmer at the front and its compatible backside.
                  When the testing is done, I also want to connect a touch sensor to it, so the dimmer can be controlled remotely as well by touch.dimmer.png

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                  • O Omemanti

                    Today I finally assembled some of my new PCB's

                    2 New front PCB's (a repeater and a LED-Dimmer)
                    1 New Back PCB that can be used as just an AC/DC power supply or as part of the AC current side of the LED-Dimmer

                    The last inwall repeater I made was just one PCB, and during installation, I got zapped :cry: , so I tried to make a 3D design to counter that.
                    The part that is the furthest in the wall is the AC side, and the microcontrollers, etc (DC-side) are at the front. Both are connected using 4 pins and are fastened by 4, 3m standoffs

                    I think this is much safer when, for instance, the front cover is taken off. (i use the same design as: LINK)

                    Pictures show the FL5150 dimmer at the front and its compatible backside.
                    When the testing is done, I also want to connect a touch sensor to it, so the dimmer can be controlled remotely as well by touch.dimmer.png

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                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                    #909

                    @Omemanti said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                    I also want to connect a touch sensor to it

                    You may not need an extra sensor. I haven't yet tried it myself, but supposedly the nRF52 has capacitive touch sensing built in.

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

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                      Today I had to make a quick debug to my dorrbell node. It stopped working for some reason some weeks ago but the node was fine. It was due to Domoticz update didn't recognise the node anymore. Since it's down I'm going to change from a mechanic trigger to a octocoupler... Any day now.

                      I also have a new outdoor node testing for some weeks npw... Maybe tomorrow will be a Mysensors day and I can do the enclosure and deploy.
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                      @sundberg84 Nice, I had hanging issues with Domoticz in the past, until I decided to switch to Home Assistant. Best decision ever.

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                        #911

                        Built a heat pump monitor based on mysensors on an Nano board and a few LM393 light sensors.

                        It's simply reading the status LEDs and tells me if they're on or off, and it means I can correlate e.g the compressor or circulation pumps with the electricity usage read from the power meter.

                        Also, which actually was the main driver behind the project, it allows me to send an alarm to my phone in case the alarm LED goes on. This is usually caused by incorrect pressure somewhere in the system and can be fixed by simply restarting the system. When the alarm triggers, it shuts down everything which is a bit annoying since it can take a few hours before I notice it (usually not until I go in the shower and there is no hot water). I now have to figure out how to deal with the fact that the alarm LED is blinking, which causes a stream of "alarm ON, alarm OFF, alarm ON, ... ." etc messages in Telegram :) There should be a way to fix this in Home Assistant I hope.

                        An interesting thing was that I was not able to tune the sensors to give me an accurate on/off digital signal. I therefore have to read the analog signal, and in the sketch decide whether it's on or off depending on the value. The values are in the 0..1023 range and the threshold was somewhere around 1000, so I think it was too close to the end of the range for the adjustment potentiometer.

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                        • maghacM maghac

                          Built a heat pump monitor based on mysensors on an Nano board and a few LM393 light sensors.

                          It's simply reading the status LEDs and tells me if they're on or off, and it means I can correlate e.g the compressor or circulation pumps with the electricity usage read from the power meter.

                          Also, which actually was the main driver behind the project, it allows me to send an alarm to my phone in case the alarm LED goes on. This is usually caused by incorrect pressure somewhere in the system and can be fixed by simply restarting the system. When the alarm triggers, it shuts down everything which is a bit annoying since it can take a few hours before I notice it (usually not until I go in the shower and there is no hot water). I now have to figure out how to deal with the fact that the alarm LED is blinking, which causes a stream of "alarm ON, alarm OFF, alarm ON, ... ." etc messages in Telegram :) There should be a way to fix this in Home Assistant I hope.

                          An interesting thing was that I was not able to tune the sensors to give me an accurate on/off digital signal. I therefore have to read the analog signal, and in the sketch decide whether it's on or off depending on the value. The values are in the 0..1023 range and the threshold was somewhere around 1000, so I think it was too close to the end of the range for the adjustment potentiometer.

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                          @maghac said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                          I now have to figure out how to deal with the fact that the alarm LED is blinking, which causes a stream of "alarm ON, alarm OFF, alarm ON, ... ." etc messages in Telegram There should be a way to fix this in Home Assistant I hope.

                          You should fix it by using a flag for alarm led on and the last time the alarm led went on :

                          • when led gets on, set the "alarm on" flag in your code, save the millis() of last alarm led on in a "last alarm led on" variable
                          • in the loop, check status of the alarm led: if off and "alarm on" flag is on, compare millis() with "last alarm led on" time. If the difference is higher than the duration of a blink interval then your alarm is really off.
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                          • Nca78N Nca78

                            @maghac said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                            I now have to figure out how to deal with the fact that the alarm LED is blinking, which causes a stream of "alarm ON, alarm OFF, alarm ON, ... ." etc messages in Telegram There should be a way to fix this in Home Assistant I hope.

                            You should fix it by using a flag for alarm led on and the last time the alarm led went on :

                            • when led gets on, set the "alarm on" flag in your code, save the millis() of last alarm led on in a "last alarm led on" variable
                            • in the loop, check status of the alarm led: if off and "alarm on" flag is on, compare millis() with "last alarm led on" time. If the difference is higher than the duration of a blink interval then your alarm is really off.
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                            #913

                            @Nca78 You're probably correct. I first wanted to keep the sensor "dumb" and put all logic in the controller, but it makes sense that the sensor actually returns the true alarm state - which is ON if the LED is blinking.

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                              It's s WS2812B LED strip driver using STM32 blue pill and RFM69HCW.
                              I have made a few revisions previously, but this one fits an off-the-shelf enclosure and uses the pcb and enclosure lid for strain relief on the LED strip connector wires.
                              I like the concept of using the enclosure slots to hold the pcb. Maybe a slightly smaller enclosure next time.

                              20200202_132206.jpg

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                                #915

                                Today, a 5uA always on display with a PCF8553 LCD driver and a GDC1038 LCD from GoodDisplay. Power consumption varies with voltage but mostly with what segments are on/off, but at 3.3V with segments on to display data on all parts of display (2*4 digit numbers and 3 letters) it's always below 6uA.

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                                Not sure why the Youtube video won't integrate as it should, but here it is for a more animated version:
                                https://youtu.be/QyaC7J84vN8

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                                  #916

                                  very first working Ethernet gateway :)

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                                  PiHome - Smart Heating Control

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                                    Today I finished to fix failed soldering (too old solder paste made a mess :cry: ) on the "motherboard" of my air quality sensor.
                                    It's based on ESP32, uses a charging IC with power path so it can run on batteries for around a day or stay plugged without destroying the battery, step down from USB/battery to get VCC, storage on I2C EEPROM, flash and/or µSD card (depending on use case), one SK6812 mini RGB led as indicator, a small 240*240 IPS LCD (backlight driven directly by ESP32 pin in high drive capability mode), a 3 way switch for basic user interface + footprint for PAJ7620 gesture recognition module, accelerometer and I2C IO expander to manage the 3 way switch and interrupts from sensor modules.
                                    Sensor modules will be added on top, connected using an FPC connector. At the moment I made only one sensor PCB able to manage usual PM, CO2 and formaldehyde sensors. Only one sensor per sensor board where an attiny841 manages the UART sensor and convert it to I2C, it also manages the 5V step up to power the sensor.
                                    On the main board I also added an NRF24 footprint so with the same PCB I will be able to make a gateway with integrated battery backup.

                                    I'm pretty happy with the relatively well aligned components (no, I don't have OCD :D ) , too bad I had to unsolder, clean and re-solder each component as it now looks botched up. But at least everything (except a missing connection on µSD card, hence the blue wire) is working,
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                                    LCD test showing jpgs from SD card
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                                      #918

                                      My new mini multi device on nRF52810, nRF52811, nRF52832 chips. Designed specifically for a very small case from Aliexpress. It works!!!

                                      bme280, sht20/21, si7020/si7021, hdc1080, max40009, lis2dw12, lis2dh12, lmt01, reed switch, led + rgb led, user button and 6 analog pins, 6 digital pins with NFC.
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                                      VIDEO:
                                      https://youtu.be/uxe9G3y720g

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                                        #919

                                        Today I designed a case for EasyPCB with 2xAA holder on the back.

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                                        and a case that slides just over.

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                                        It works with 3x5 version so for this you accually have to use the more advanced option and reflash the fuses on your pro mini to make it 3x5. The normal EasyPCB with booster is 5x5, but Im thinking of just stretching this for another version.

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          Today I designed a case for EasyPCB with 2xAA holder on the back.

                                          e63319a9-b160-47ea-be2b-6b3353636e06-image.png
                                          a7bd451f-72d7-4004-88b0-64c43dd0e192-image.png

                                          and a case that slides just over.

                                          269327e4-e5b7-4e28-85d6-183862119e61-image.png

                                          It works with 3x5 version so for this you accually have to use the more advanced option and reflash the fuses on your pro mini to make it 3x5. The normal EasyPCB with booster is 5x5, but Im thinking of just stretching this for another version.

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                                          @sundberg84 just a suggestion; wouldn't it be good to move the batteries to the right (instead of the left) so they block the nrf antenna less?

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