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What did you build today (Pictures) ?

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  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

    @sundberg84 just a suggestion; wouldn't it be good to move the batteries to the right (instead of the left) so they block the nrf antenna less?

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    sundberg84
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    #921

    @mfalkvidd - a great suggestion! It wont not block it completely but as you say, a little less.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      #922

      Here's another idea too: if you were to add a blank copper cladded FR4 between the batteries and the PCB above it, with a cut-out below where the antenna is, then maybe you'd have a much improved ground plane, making your radio awesome? You could have little drawer like grooves on the side of your case to slide the copper cladded FR4 into position, and, of course, you would want a ground connection to it.

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        #923

        Not sure about that groundplane @NeverDie - you are most probably right but I dont really understand the theory behind it but sounds really cool!

        3f1897f8-e82a-4554-92bf-ac16a9fe3045-image.png

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          Not sure about that groundplane @NeverDie - you are most probably right but I dont really understand the theory behind it but sounds really cool!

          3f1897f8-e82a-4554-92bf-ac16a9fe3045-image.png

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          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
          #924

          @sundberg84 Here's all the theory you need in one picture:
          alt text
          Most of the modules use a monopole antenna, and as near as I can tell, most of them, if not all of them, have insufficient ground plane. It still works, of course, but it's impaired over what it would be with a better ground plane. I think maybe that's why whenever someone switches to a dipole antenna they generally notice a huge improvement. So, there's always that, but your design is nice because it's so compact, and a dipole would spoil that.

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          • NeverDieN NeverDie

            @sundberg84 Here's all the theory you need in one picture:
            alt text
            Most of the modules use a monopole antenna, and as near as I can tell, most of them, if not all of them, have insufficient ground plane. It still works, of course, but it's impaired over what it would be with a better ground plane. I think maybe that's why whenever someone switches to a dipole antenna they generally notice a huge improvement. So, there's always that, but your design is nice because it's so compact, and a dipole would spoil that.

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            #925

            @NeverDie - so a ground plane like in here? Like that mod Pete did in his video but you inmplement it into the 3d case?

            3214fd69-c25b-4aa6-a2df-fdd54de776ed-image.png

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • NeverDieN Offline
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              #926

              Yeah, the flat piece that the red line points to. I'm not sure what those black spray painted things are, so I'm ignoring those.

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                wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                #927

                Made a dead-bug op-amp circuit to help measure open-circuit voltages created by nano-amp currents generated by a solar cell illuminated by just 1 lux of very dim light:
                alt text
                This picture is actually just the LDO part of the op-amp circuit, where I was able to solder the prescribed surface mount capacitors directly between its pins. The larger circuit is described on this thread: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/10812/the-harvester-ultimate-power-supply-for-the-raybeacon-dk/122
                Why dead-bug you ask? Since the circuit depends on the correct measurement of the effects of mere nanoamps, I didn't want any leakage currents that might happen on a protoboard, which can be significant when it's just a small number of nanoamps and their effects that's under scrutiny.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #928

                  Updated my GW with the code @mfalkvidd provided to monitor OK and NACK

                  a2a53f2e-6227-451f-baf6-bc2ed2d66111-image.png

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    #929

                    I got tired of twisting DuPont cabels to get from different programmers to different boards.
                    This is an adapter that lets me connect the programmers I commonly use (Jlink-mini, BMP, STLink clone) with the boards I commonly program with straight through wires. I left a couple unpopulated for future in and out.

                    jlink_adapter.jpg

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                      #930

                      Finally I am starting to do a little electronics again.. First thing is a prototype assembly of RASLE (Rpi Arcade Sound and Light Extension). It's a custom made arduino "coprocessor" for a raspberry pi, built into retropie arcade cabinets. It's a joint project with a couple of friends that are building arcade cabinets (I built mine a couple of years ago, I think that there is pictures earlier in this thread).

                      20200331_175528.jpg

                      Features:

                      • stereo 3W class-d amplifier
                      • atmega328p
                        • 3 pwm channels for LED strips
                        • a port for WS2812 type led strips
                        • pwm channel for fan
                        • output for a relay to control mains input for the box (let the rpi shutdown cleanly, before disconnecting power)
                        • 5 button inputs (shared between rpi and atmega)
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                        #931

                        Hi, finished two nodes based on the same multi-purpose battery powered pcb (all the documentation here)

                        One is a door / window sensor based on a Reed switch.

                        20200223_175402.jpg 20200223_175502.jpg

                        If someone is interested, the dedicated wiki page contains the detailed build instructions.

                        The other is a soil moisture sensor.

                        final-1.jpg cover.jpg

                        For this one, the wiki page is here.

                        Happy Easter, even if at home!

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                          #932

                          Anyone know or have experience with how well the underlying capacitive soil moisture sensors hold up over the long term? Clearly they're better than the cheap conductive electrode kind, which for most people don't last very long at all, but I recollect reading that water ultimately invades the PCB enough on even the capacitive designs that it goes kaput. Maybe they've been improved since then or maybe there are now known tricks for how to fortify them against that happening?

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            Anyone know or have experience with how well the underlying capacitive soil moisture sensors hold up over the long term? Clearly they're better than the cheap conductive electrode kind, which for most people don't last very long at all, but I recollect reading that water ultimately invades the PCB enough on even the capacitive designs that it goes kaput. Maybe they've been improved since then or maybe there are now known tricks for how to fortify them against that happening?

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                            wrote on last edited by franz-unix
                            #933

                            @NeverDie Good question. My is too young (2 days) to say something.

                            Here a possible solution. See at about 9:50

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                            • NeverDieN NeverDie

                              Anyone know or have experience with how well the underlying capacitive soil moisture sensors hold up over the long term? Clearly they're better than the cheap conductive electrode kind, which for most people don't last very long at all, but I recollect reading that water ultimately invades the PCB enough on even the capacitive designs that it goes kaput. Maybe they've been improved since then or maybe there are now known tricks for how to fortify them against that happening?

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                              wrote on last edited by BearWithBeard
                              #934

                              @NeverDie The guy with the swiss accent once said that you can coat the capacitive soil moisture sensors with a water resistant varnish or put it inside a waterproof shell.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmJyncDvw0
                              starting at ~7 mins.

                              @franz-unix Ha, Great minds think alike. :D

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                              • BearWithBeardB BearWithBeard

                                @NeverDie The guy with the swiss accent once said that you can coat the capacitive soil moisture sensors with a water resistant varnish or put it inside a waterproof shell.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmJyncDvw0
                                starting at ~7 mins.

                                @franz-unix Ha, Great minds think alike. :D

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #935

                                @BearWithBeard :+1: :grin: I love the video of the swiss guy!

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                                • BearWithBeardB BearWithBeard

                                  @NeverDie The guy with the swiss accent once said that you can coat the capacitive soil moisture sensors with a water resistant varnish or put it inside a waterproof shell.

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmJyncDvw0
                                  starting at ~7 mins.

                                  @franz-unix Ha, Great minds think alike. :D

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #936

                                  @BearWithBeard ah, now I know who 'the guy with the Swiss accent' is :)

                                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #937

                                    Today I have a very strange problem. I have created a new outdoor sensor which is powered by a 240v-5v HLK module. Its working VERY intermittent and should send data every 5 minutes (no exceptions).

                                    Whats even more strange is that, when my outside node (called multi) is working, I have a battery powered node (sleep 15 min - send - sleep) that seems to go down, and the other way around (not always, but quite frequent - could be very unrelated but I have notised it a couple of times now).
                                    58a6f282-5b04-4bbc-90f4-6b0f0af37261-image.png

                                    Anyhow, Im very glad i build my logger node - works great once more. I use this so often and really recommend all with a bigger network to have some sort of mobile debugger. Most of the times I use the bluetooth module (2xAA powered) but at this point I have my node on my workbench powered by a USB adapter (orange wires). I then parasite power from the node to run the debugger and is now logging everything to a sd-card.

                                    503d3040-7208-4e95-a6cc-cb3128d24c17-image.png

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #938

                                      In case anyone hasn't seen the logger before, it is available at https://www.openhardware.io/view/532/The-Logger-Machine-Short-and-long-term-serial-logging

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                                        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                        #939

                                        Another picture from today:
                                        cd572dd2-1092-478e-bb59-6200ef28ad7a-image.png

                                        Just started working with coincells - CR2032 to be exact. Anyone knows why the battery % varies with the given temperature? Are those coincells very temp. dependent or I have made a misstake somewhere... ???

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          Another picture from today:
                                          cd572dd2-1092-478e-bb59-6200ef28ad7a-image.png

                                          Just started working with coincells - CR2032 to be exact. Anyone knows why the battery % varies with the given temperature? Are those coincells very temp. dependent or I have made a misstake somewhere... ???

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                                          @sundberg84 said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                          Anyone knows why the battery % varies with the given temperature

                                          They don't like it when it's too cold. Check page 4 :
                                          https://data.energizer.com/pdfs/lithiumcoin_appman.pdf

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