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  • andrewA andrew

    @NeverDie
    firmware settings: it is stored in the EEPROM, but nothing guarantees that the same location will be used for the same parameters in case of different versions, so the output of "$$" command should be saved, this contains everything which you can manually set up if necessary.

    ER11: take extra care during the installation process to not "harm" the motor's axis. usually the ER11 is pretty tight and howtos mention that the motor should be cooled (by the freezer) and the ER11 should be warmed up before putting them together, to help the mounting process and to prevent unwanted distortion.

    I put the CNC 2418 assembly guide to my share, for ones it is interesting.

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    #149

    @andrew said in CNC PCB milling:

    the ER11 should be warmed up

    how exactly? Heat gun?

    I've put the motor assembly in the freezer....

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      NeverDie
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      #150

      I'll let it freeze overnight and then try it in the morning.

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        I'll let it freeze overnight and then try it in the morning.

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        @neverdie said in CNC PCB milling:

        freeze

        Why do you want to freeze the motor? :eyes:

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @neverdie said in CNC PCB milling:

          freeze

          Why do you want to freeze the motor? :eyes:

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          #152

          @sundberg84 see andrew's earlier post.

          Freezing the motor axis makes it a bit smaller.

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @neverdie said in CNC PCB milling:

            freeze

            Why do you want to freeze the motor? :eyes:

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            #153

            @sundberg84 And heating up the other part makes it expand and get bigger allowing the two to fit together easier. Has to do with tight tolerances.

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              #154

              @andrew
              Since I probably have only one shot at this, how hot should I heat up the ER11 before trying to fit it onto the frozen spindle? Should it be burning hot, or is luke-warm enough?

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @andrew
                Since I probably have only one shot at this, how hot should I heat up the ER11 before trying to fit it onto the frozen spindle? Should it be burning hot, or is luke-warm enough?

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                #155

                @neverdie unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't have ER11 (yet), and I just read articles and vendor suggestions on the installation method, so I cannot provide experience based suggestions to that. as far as I remember nor concrete temperature was mentioned, so I would say you should not "overheat" it.

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                • andrewA andrew

                  @neverdie unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't have ER11 (yet), and I just read articles and vendor suggestions on the installation method, so I cannot provide experience based suggestions to that. as far as I remember nor concrete temperature was mentioned, so I would say you should not "overheat" it.

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                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                  #156

                  @andrew said in CNC PCB milling:

                  @neverdie unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't have ER11 (yet), and I just read articles and vendor suggestions on the installation method, so I cannot provide experience based suggestions to that. as far as I remember nor concrete temperature was mentioned, so I would say you should not "overheat" it.

                  I slipped it on, no problem at all. After freezing the motor overnight, what I did was heat the ER11 with my wife's crafting hot air gun. I held it with an insulated glove as I warmed it up. When it started to become uncomfortable to hold with even the insulated glove, I slipped it on without any resistance.

                  Hopefully this info will help you when you receive yours.

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                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                    @andrew said in CNC PCB milling:

                    @neverdie unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't have ER11 (yet), and I just read articles and vendor suggestions on the installation method, so I cannot provide experience based suggestions to that. as far as I remember nor concrete temperature was mentioned, so I would say you should not "overheat" it.

                    I slipped it on, no problem at all. After freezing the motor overnight, what I did was heat the ER11 with my wife's crafting hot air gun. I held it with an insulated glove as I warmed it up. When it started to become uncomfortable to hold with even the insulated glove, I slipped it on without any resistance.

                    Hopefully this info will help you when you receive yours.

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                    #157

                    @neverdie :) nice, so your wife saved the project :)))
                    be patient and do not power the spindle for couple of hours, while it is cold, as it could be wet inside which could cause shorts and other issues.

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                      #158

                      I seem to be finished with the mechanical assembly:
                      0_1513629200578_mechanicals_done.jpg
                      However, these washers came with the kit, and I'm not sure what they're for:
                      0_1513629228821_washers.jpg
                      Anyone know? Are they for mounting the woodpecker board to the frame?

                      Next I need to do the firmware upgrade and then wire things up.

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                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                        I seem to be finished with the mechanical assembly:
                        0_1513629200578_mechanicals_done.jpg
                        However, these washers came with the kit, and I'm not sure what they're for:
                        0_1513629228821_washers.jpg
                        Anyone know? Are they for mounting the woodpecker board to the frame?

                        Next I need to do the firmware upgrade and then wire things up.

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                        @neverdie yes, it is for "isolating" the pcb from the frame.

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                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                          @andrew said in CNC PCB milling:

                          @neverdie unfortunately, as I mentioned, I don't have ER11 (yet), and I just read articles and vendor suggestions on the installation method, so I cannot provide experience based suggestions to that. as far as I remember nor concrete temperature was mentioned, so I would say you should not "overheat" it.

                          I slipped it on, no problem at all. After freezing the motor overnight, what I did was heat the ER11 with my wife's crafting hot air gun. I held it with an insulated glove as I warmed it up. When it started to become uncomfortable to hold with even the insulated glove, I slipped it on without any resistance.

                          Hopefully this info will help you when you receive yours.

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                          @neverdie said in CNC PCB milling:

                          ER11

                          FYI - Was reading on another forum where the user was going to replace the ER11 with a larger version so he could use 8mm bits (fairly standard metric size for wood routing bits, but incredibly strong)...
                          Somebody pointed out to the guy that there are collets available for the ER11 specifically for 8mm shafted toolbits...
                          https://www.sorotec.de/shop/Spannzange-ER-11---8-00mm-DIN-6499B-4008E-Klasse-II.html

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            I seem to be finished with the mechanical assembly:
                            0_1513629200578_mechanicals_done.jpg
                            However, these washers came with the kit, and I'm not sure what they're for:
                            0_1513629228821_washers.jpg
                            Anyone know? Are they for mounting the woodpecker board to the frame?

                            Next I need to do the firmware upgrade and then wire things up.

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                            #161

                            @neverdie
                            You have gone quiet:relaxed:
                            Must be beavering away cutting pcb's?

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                              Carved this on my home made cnc router recently.
                              Bit off topic but good fun.
                              It is about 2ft diameter and 8" thick(old millstone)
                              0_1513689287536_aa2a84b0-71ec-4d46-9c2d-f2241aa2827a-image.png

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                              • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                Carved this on my home made cnc router recently.
                                Bit off topic but good fun.
                                It is about 2ft diameter and 8" thick(old millstone)
                                0_1513689287536_aa2a84b0-71ec-4d46-9c2d-f2241aa2827a-image.png

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                                #163

                                @rmtucker
                                And this for our lass
                                0_1513689365865_382c70bc-e450-4cc8-89c9-f0cc3bd45522-image.png

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                                • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                  @neverdie
                                  You have gone quiet:relaxed:
                                  Must be beavering away cutting pcb's?

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #164

                                  @rmtucker said in CNC PCB milling:

                                  @neverdie
                                  You have gone quiet:relaxed:
                                  Must be beavering away cutting pcb's?

                                  No, I've simply misplaced my Dragon AVR programmer for the firmware upgrade, so I need to hunt it down.

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                                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                    #165

                                    Anyway, once I do get the firmware upgraded and it wired up, what's the best way to start testing it? Do I need to learn GRBL as execuval seems to imply, or are there some simple tests I can run? I imagine some kind of calibration would be the need step, but I haven't read that far ahead because there's nothing to read (well, haven't googled it out yet either).

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      Anyway, once I do get the firmware upgraded and it wired up, what's the best way to start testing it? Do I need to learn GRBL as execuval seems to imply, or are there some simple tests I can run? I imagine some kind of calibration would be the need step, but I haven't read that far ahead because there's nothing to read (well, haven't googled it out yet either).

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                                      #166

                                      @neverdie
                                      Stick some g-code in and press cycle start:grin:

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                                      • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                        @neverdie said in CNC PCB milling:

                                        ER11

                                        FYI - Was reading on another forum where the user was going to replace the ER11 with a larger version so he could use 8mm bits (fairly standard metric size for wood routing bits, but incredibly strong)...
                                        Somebody pointed out to the guy that there are collets available for the ER11 specifically for 8mm shafted toolbits...
                                        https://www.sorotec.de/shop/Spannzange-ER-11---8-00mm-DIN-6499B-4008E-Klasse-II.html

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                                        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                        #167

                                        @zboblamont said in CNC PCB milling:

                                        was going to replace the ER11 with a larger version

                                        Given how it's installed, I don't see how you can get it off. I would assume it's permanent.

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          @zboblamont said in CNC PCB milling:

                                          was going to replace the ER11 with a larger version

                                          Given how it's installed, I don't see how you can get it off. I would assume it's permanent.

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                                          #168

                                          @neverdie From memory the guy got it off with a hub-puller, and a persuader, but the point I was trying to make was that there is a collet assembly for the ER11which takes 8mm...

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