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My Ugly ESP GW Prototype

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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    Have you guys seen this? http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/EMW3165-CortexM4-based-WiFi-SoC-Module-p-2488.html
    The specs seem almost the same as the Photon's, but it's less than half the price. And, it's in stock.

    I'm open minded. Is there a reason to prefer the Photon?

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    • tbowmoT Offline
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      @NeverDie

      Looks interesting. However, it's probably a bit more complicated to use for newcommers, as it's not arduino compatible (not yet anyways).

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      • tbowmoT tbowmo

        @NeverDie

        Looks interesting. However, it's probably a bit more complicated to use for newcommers, as it's not arduino compatible (not yet anyways).

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        @tbowmo said:

        @NeverDie

        Looks interesting. However, it's probably a bit more complicated to use for newcommers, as it's not arduino compatible (not yet anyways).

        Good point. Also, the Photon already has header pins soldered on, and not having that means extra work.

        I think I'm persuaded that, at least for now, the Photon can justify its higher price.

        What's the best board to dock it into? Or is it simply roll-you-own with female headers on some prototyping board?

        Sparkfun will have a Photon redboard, but at $39.95....

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          @NeverDie

          Is Photon compatible with Arduino? (the build eco system). That is one of the key elements of mysensors at the moment, and what makes it accessible for newcommers.

          If not then everything needs to be ported to another build system..

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          • tbowmoT tbowmo

            @NeverDie

            Is Photon compatible with Arduino? (the build eco system). That is one of the key elements of mysensors at the moment, and what makes it accessible for newcommers.

            If not then everything needs to be ported to another build system..

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            @tbowmo said:

            Is Photon compatible with Arduino?

            It is "Arduino-like" for sure, but a little different in that it's implementation is still developing. I've done a few projects with Photon, including (vera controlled) LED projects and sensors. There are some differences so you may find it rough at first (particularly with the availability of Libraries).

            Probably a great add-on to your sensor network if you are more experienced with Arduino.

            Like MySensors, they have a terrific forum!

            PS, comparable to the EMW3165, the P1 version of photon is $10

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            • tbowmoT tbowmo

              @NeverDie

              Is Photon compatible with Arduino? (the build eco system). That is one of the key elements of mysensors at the moment, and what makes it accessible for newcommers.

              If not then everything needs to be ported to another build system..

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              @tbowmo said:

              @NeverDie

              Is Photon compatible with Arduino? (the build eco system). That is one of the key elements of mysensors at the moment, and what makes it accessible for newcommers.

              If not then everything needs to be ported to another build system..

              Glad you brought this up.

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                @tekka said:

                I'm running the GW sketch (and repeater node) natively on the ESP8266 - however, the porting needs some additional work on EEPROM handling and pointer addressing. Also, a stable power supply is important (>3.1V with ESP8266 and NRF24 attached, no peaks). Will post more as porting progresses.

                Would mind to share your sketch for the ESP8266 + WiFi+GW + nRF24 ? If I understood correctly --- the ESP can run the mySensors GW + regular Wi-fi, replacing the arduino? Any other downside than the EEPROM ?

                Thanks!

                Home Assistant / Vera Plus UI7
                ESP8266 GW + mySensors 2.3.2
                Alexa / Google Home

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                • rvendrameR rvendrame

                  @tekka said:

                  I'm running the GW sketch (and repeater node) natively on the ESP8266 - however, the porting needs some additional work on EEPROM handling and pointer addressing. Also, a stable power supply is important (>3.1V with ESP8266 and NRF24 attached, no peaks). Will post more as porting progresses.

                  Would mind to share your sketch for the ESP8266 + WiFi+GW + nRF24 ? If I understood correctly --- the ESP can run the mySensors GW + regular Wi-fi, replacing the arduino? Any other downside than the EEPROM ?

                  Thanks!

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                  @rvendrame yes, ESP8266 + nRF24L01 = GW. However, build is currently unstable and WIP.

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                    @tekka, ok got it. I just managed to run my serial GW on my media-player computer (using a serial to ethernet program), so I now I finally have my kind of ethernet GW. Thanks!

                    Home Assistant / Vera Plus UI7
                    ESP8266 GW + mySensors 2.3.2
                    Alexa / Google Home

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                    • rvendrameR rvendrame

                      @tekka, ok got it. I just managed to run my serial GW on my media-player computer (using a serial to ethernet program), so I now I finally have my kind of ethernet GW. Thanks!

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                      @rvendrame said:

                      @tekka, ok got it. ... so I now I finally have my kind of ethernet GW. Thanks!

                      NodeJS?

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                        @barduino , I have Vera as controller. And I have a old mac mini which is my media player / nas / voip / etc... I just installed the .99c TCP2Serial on it, and plugged my serial gateway. It is working like a charm.

                        Home Assistant / Vera Plus UI7
                        ESP8266 GW + mySensors 2.3.2
                        Alexa / Google Home

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                        • Daniel OliveiraD Offline
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                          Hi @hek and everyone,

                          I'm starting to get really interested in knowing more about these ESP8266 litle things but after some "googling" I still didn't figured out one thing. I already saw some projects to use an ESP alone as a GW (with a RF24 module attached) but is it not possible to have a MySensor's network of only ESPs?

                          One ESP as GE and multiple others as sensor nodes? Why?

                          Thank you all in advance,
                          Daniel

                          MySensors rules my home :)

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                            Most probably possible once someone get library running on it.

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                              @Daniel-Oliveira

                              If you were to make a sensor network only with ESP8266, you don't need mysensors (as I see it). It has network capabilities by itself (wifi), so you could actually just connect them to your existing wifi network (or create a new one with an old router).

                              One thing though, they probably will use more current, compared to nrf24 / rfm69. Unless you can power up/down the module. But then you'll have latency time when connecting to the wifi, before sending the actual sensor values.

                              But besides that, it should be possible to make some sort of sensor network with the ESP only..

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                                Does anyone have any working examples of Sensebender Micro working with a Photon? I have all the parts but finding it difficult to unravel all GW libs and so on. I just want to use my sensebender with a Onewire waterproof temp sensor and for it to report back to the Photon every 5 minutes or so.

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