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  • scalzS scalz

    Hi.

    yes i'm preparing files for the fabhouse.
    As you can see i've done a little update on my description, i'm focusing on my "work in progress" stuff to "released" at openhardware because i would like to release my others boards etc. and have my mind free for software. That will be hard for a pcb addict like me :)
    I hope we'll get a reasonable price..This will be a project for contributing to Mysensors project ;)

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    NeverDie
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    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
    #36

    @scalz
    Which enclosure do you recommend to go with it?

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    • scalzS Offline
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      wrote on last edited by scalz
      #37

      @NeverDie
      3d printed box for a tailored stuff. I'll also upload .stl and design files. i'm looking at which parts can be "DP" on my BOM, for the pcba..

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        #38

        Hi,
        is it possible to get the actual sketch ?

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          #39

          Hola,
          Very nice, I order PCBs.
          I have a question which size for the resonator 8Mhz X1 ?
          By Advance thanks,

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            wrote on last edited by scalz
            #40

            hi.
            i've updated the bom. you can use CSTCE8M00G55-R0.
            it's optional, you can omit it if you want, and use internal 8mhz

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            • scalzS scalz

              hi.
              i've updated the bom. you can use CSTCE8M00G55-R0.
              it's optional, you can omit it if you want, and use internal 8mhz

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              #41

              @scalz Thanks !

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                wrote on last edited by tonnerre33
                #42

                Hi, which tool do you use for programming with your pogo pin avr isp ?

                Why didn't use pogo pin for FTDI too ?

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                  #43

                  you can also use pogopin for ftdi, why not ;)
                  for avrisp, i use an usbasp.

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                  • scalzS scalz

                    you can also use pogopin for ftdi, why not ;)
                    for avrisp, i use an usbasp.

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                    #44

                    @scalz Thx but how do you connect your USBASP on the pogo pins ?
                    I use an usbasp like this http://d1gsvnjtkwr6dd.cloudfront.net/large/AC-PG-USBASP_LRG.jpg but i don't see how to connect him on the pogo pins ;)

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                      wrote on last edited by scalz
                      #45

                      nothing fancy..with dupont cable.
                      of course you won't connect the pogo directly on the usbasp.
                      make a small adapter. simple and cheap :)
                      Example with ftdi adapter
                      0_1482922538752_ftdi_pogo.png

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                      • M Offline
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                        #46

                        @scalz Awesome board, really. However, I'm a bit worried about its practical use. You see, the motion sensors are commonly placed near the ceiling or sometimes on the ceiling. This may induce a serious drift in the reported temperature. Ideally, a temperature sensor should be placed in the middle of the wall.
                        Some people would have the impression that they're wasting energy on heating during winter while others would boost their A/C units during the summer just to read they temperature they feel confortable with. This effect would be mitigate by either concealing the motion sensor at a proper height for temperature reading, or use a reference sensor for calibration and compensate the reported value of an improperly placed sensor, and that's assuming that the seasonal variation is linear.
                        Anyway, excellent SMD work, I'm still in the PTH ice age :grinning:

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                          #47

                          @mihai-aldea
                          thx :)
                          of course i won't use temperature/hum sensor on the ceiling. Boards are small i can put them everywhere i want.
                          On my side, i just need one temp/hum/lum per room, and at least one PIR. This board needs to be well placed of course.
                          But if i need more PIR only, or temp/hum only... it's also possible. So i don't need to have a dedicated pcb per use. I stencil only what i need ;)

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                            #48

                            I guess ordering the pcb will only get me the pcb. I need to do the soldering etc myself ?
                            But I really wonder how to solder such a board seemingly being smd soldering. Are there any guides available for someone like me (pretty handy, but not experienced in this hardware stuff) ?
                            Thanks !

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                            • Sander TeunissenS Sander Teunissen

                              I guess ordering the pcb will only get me the pcb. I need to do the soldering etc myself ?
                              But I really wonder how to solder such a board seemingly being smd soldering. Are there any guides available for someone like me (pretty handy, but not experienced in this hardware stuff) ?
                              Thanks !

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                              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                              #49

                              @Sander-Teunissen said:

                              I guess ordering the pcb will only get me the pcb. I need to do the soldering etc myself ?
                              But I really wonder how to solder such a board seemingly being smd soldering. Are there any guides available for someone like me (pretty handy, but not experienced in this hardware stuff) ?
                              Thanks !

                              @hek
                              Speaking of which, I thought there were going to be some mysensors manufacturering partners who would actually make this stuff, including the soldering. When is that going to happen?

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                                wrote on last edited by scalz
                                #50

                                i've been so busy during december, i'll be back for the new year ;)

                                About pcba (assembling), it's already possible to use partners in your openhardware account. They may ask for more details if projects need it.

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                                • scalzS scalz

                                  i've been so busy during december, i'll be back for the new year ;)

                                  About pcba (assembling), it's already possible to use partners in your openhardware account. They may ask for more details if projects need it.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #51

                                  @scalz
                                  Would they actually make a quantity 1?

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                                  • scalzS scalz

                                    @mihai-aldea
                                    thx :)
                                    of course i won't use temperature/hum sensor on the ceiling. Boards are small i can put them everywhere i want.
                                    On my side, i just need one temp/hum/lum per room, and at least one PIR. This board needs to be well placed of course.
                                    But if i need more PIR only, or temp/hum only... it's also possible. So i don't need to have a dedicated pcb per use. I stencil only what i need ;)

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                                    wrote on last edited by mihai.aldea
                                    #52

                                    @scalz said:

                                    But if i need more PIR only, or temp/hum only... it's also possible. So i don't need to have a dedicated pcb per use. I stencil only what i need ;)

                                    Yeah, makes sense, a modular sensor PCB, a more advanced version than my Si7021 / DS18B20+ or PIR / door-window PCBs.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @NeverDie

                                      PCBWay have quoted a few fully assembled boards on openhardware.io but the prices is pretty high as they won't stock/produce larger batches.

                                      It's a bit problematic to get low price at low volumes (and low financial commitment).

                                      I suggest hardware contributors to setup some cooperation directly with the manufacturers. You should have a direct channel to them in the closed manufacturing forum here (accessible for all open hardware contributors).

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                                        wrote on last edited by mihai.aldea
                                        #54

                                        @hek Have you considered using the Seeedstudio PCB assembly service? I haven't tried this service as all my PCB's are using old school PTH. But will try them at some point. It says that "Assembly Fee Starts from $25" but there's no mention whether it's a flat fee or it includes some components assembly. The pricing information is rather fuzzy and I wasn't needing the service for time being anyway so I didn't ask.

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                                          #55

                                          Yes, Seeed Studio have access to quote assembled boards (since a couple of weeks back) on openhardware.io, but they haven't so far as it is a bit more complicated (time consuming) to get a accurate price.

                                          @scalz and I have been in contact with Seed about this particular board. But we've not had time to follow up on some of their documentation requirements.

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