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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb for MySensors

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  • Sefi NinioS Offline
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    Sefi Ninio
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    #26

    Even though it's untested, would you mind publishing the Gerber and bom files?

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      @Sefi-Ninio - Yea I should. Im working on Rev 4 and there is more creepage both between primary (220) and secondary (5) and also internally in primary. Everything is ordered but nothing recieved yet, but let me give you a small peak:

      0_1457550900902_3dboxTop.JPG

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      GertSanders
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      @sundberg84

      Very nice board !

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        • Sefi NinioS Offline
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          Sefi Ninio
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          SMD is easier with solder paste and hot air solder

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          • sundberg84S Offline
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            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
            #30

            This PCB has been updated to Rev 4.1 with the following changes:
            (Note that this thread contains the non SMD version)

            • Complete redesign of traces to improve size and stability.
            • Nrf24l01+ now on the bottom side to make more room (with hope not RF disturbace from HLK or AC traces).
            • Added silkmask with AC-DC seperation (Rev 4.1 > 5mm)
            • AC clearance 2.5mm minimum
            • Changed one AC trace from botton to top to increace creepage and changed milling
            • MysX 2.3 + Analog IO
            • Safety recommendations: This PCB meets the criteria of pollution level II (2,5mm (Basic) AC seperation and 5mm (Reinforced) AC-DC sepertion) and can be used "where only non-conductive contamination occurs. However, occasional temporary conductivity must be expected as a result of moisture condensation." Always use a sealed case to avoid contamination. Always read disclaimer.txt before using this PCB.

            0_1482862303483_1.JPG

            Images on https://www.openhardware.io/view/13/In-Wall-ACDC-Pcb-for-MySensors has been updated.

            Please wait for PCB house to update to new gerber files before ordering (It should say M.Rev 2 (Manufacturer rev 2) for latest revision when selecting PCB house)

            Im currently testing this rev...
            If you want to be 100% sure, download and prev. revision.

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            • carthiqueC Offline
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              carthique
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              #31

              Hi,

              Can someone please suggest replacement parts for the 110v variant of this board.

              Thanks
              Karthik

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              • carthiqueC carthique

                Hi,

                Can someone please suggest replacement parts for the 110v variant of this board.

                Thanks
                Karthik

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                sundberg84
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                #32

                @carthique - You need a 110 v varistor maybe something like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321024816822?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rmvSB=true. Fuses and other components is the same.

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                  @sundberg84, when I go to the order form, the revision there is M.Rev3. Which version of PCB does that manufacturer revision correspond to - 3.1 or 4.1???

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                  • ashwayA ashway

                    @sundberg84, when I go to the order form, the revision there is M.Rev3. Which version of PCB does that manufacturer revision correspond to - 3.1 or 4.1???

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                    sundberg84
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                    #34

                    @ashway - this is correct/latest version. The manufacturer rev 3 equals the latest 4.1.

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                      shabba
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                      #35

                      Excuse the possibly silly question but the buy options is PCBs only? Or does it come with the housing too?

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                      • S shabba

                        Excuse the possibly silly question but the buy options is PCBs only? Or does it come with the housing too?

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                        sundberg84
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #36

                        @shabba - PCB only.
                        I recommend using 3dhubs.com and find a local 3d printer for the case.
                        Files (.stl) attached in the project.

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                          shabba
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                          #37

                          @sundberg84 thanks - I had a look in the design files and I think I covered the comments but could not find a .stl file.

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                            @sundberg84 thanks - I had a look in the design files and I think I covered the comments but could not find a .stl file.

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                            sundberg84
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #38

                            @shabba - sorry you are right.
                            If i remember right I removed it because I wasnt 100% sure it would be ok going from 4.0 to 4.1 on the pcb.
                            Let me have a look and post it asap.

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                              bmokena
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                              #39

                              Hi sundberg84,
                              I bought 10 of these PCBs. So can I use this PCB, add a relay and fuse and use it inside the wall to control light switches? or should I go rather go for the other PCB "In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)" ?

                              Thanks
                              Bob

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                              • bmokenaB bmokena

                                Hi sundberg84,
                                I bought 10 of these PCBs. So can I use this PCB, add a relay and fuse and use it inside the wall to control light switches? or should I go rather go for the other PCB "In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)" ?

                                Thanks
                                Bob

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                                sundberg84
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #40

                                @bmokena - if it fits, that should be ok. This PCB is made a more generic pcb so you can add any sensor/accuator to it including a relay. Use the MysX i/o and you can controll your relay through D3 for example.

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                                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                  @shabba - PCB only.
                                  I recommend using 3dhubs.com and find a local 3d printer for the case.
                                  Files (.stl) attached in the project.

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                                  johmei
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                                  #41

                                  @sundberg84
                                  Hi, do you have any local Swedish printing services to recommend?

                                  Ps. Got the PCBs from Pcbway yesterday and man was I surprised how small they were. Looks great and hope to get some nodes up and running soon, once all components get here.

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                                    @sundberg84
                                    Hi, do you have any local Swedish printing services to recommend?

                                    Ps. Got the PCBs from Pcbway yesterday and man was I surprised how small they were. Looks great and hope to get some nodes up and running soon, once all components get here.

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                                    sundberg84
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #42

                                    @johmei - sorry, I wish i had any good recommendations for local PCB service.
                                    The only research I have done leads me to that they are VERY expensive compared to these 10x10 chinese.
                                    Good luck with your build! Images are always appreciated! ;)

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                                      johmei
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                                      #43

                                      @sundberg84 - Thanks, but I was thinking about 3D printing services for boxes, cases and mounts in very small series (maybe even singles)?!

                                      Regarding images we'll see if I manage to get any AC stuff going anytime soon. I have a lot of respect for AC and probably want to get to know the Arduino platform a bit more first. Got my first couple of regular DC nodes running yesterday and they have been running really well for 12 hours now (impressed of the small nrf24+ radio range). So many ideas to explore. =)
                                      Actually ordered a set of your newbie PCBs a few days after my In wall AC PCB order so there will be a lot your autograph around my house..

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                                        @sundberg84 - Thanks, but I was thinking about 3D printing services for boxes, cases and mounts in very small series (maybe even singles)?!

                                        Regarding images we'll see if I manage to get any AC stuff going anytime soon. I have a lot of respect for AC and probably want to get to know the Arduino platform a bit more first. Got my first couple of regular DC nodes running yesterday and they have been running really well for 12 hours now (impressed of the small nrf24+ radio range). So many ideas to explore. =)
                                        Actually ordered a set of your newbie PCBs a few days after my In wall AC PCB order so there will be a lot your autograph around my house..

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                                        sundberg84
                                        Hardware Contributor
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @johmei - haha, I hope they will help you some in your quest for HA. About 3d printing I use 3dhubs.com and have tried different once and been satisfied. Go for one at your location if you want to pick up. I use one in Kalmar with shipping I can recommend.

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                                          johmei
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                                          Can't help myself but have to see if I can get a AC node going. question regarding capacitors: C1 is specified as 10uF in the circuit diagram but the BOM states 0,1, 1,0, 4,7 uF capacitors. What is the recommendation from the creator? Thanks

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