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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)

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  • Jose SimoesJ Offline
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    Jose Simoes
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    hi, just an idea, do you think it is possible to add a current sensor to the PCB in order to add a power meter function to the node to monitor power consumption? say up to 20A

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    • Jose SimoesJ Jose Simoes

      hi, just an idea, do you think it is possible to add a current sensor to the PCB in order to add a power meter function to the node to monitor power consumption? say up to 20A

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      sundberg84
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      @Jose-Simoes - no clue about current sensors... sorry I just cant answer that at the moment.

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          @Jose-Simoes - no clue about current sensors... sorry I just cant answer that at the moment.

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          @sundberg84 -hey, i was meaning something like the ACS712 Module, but add the ic to the PCB for better integration.

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          • Jose SimoesJ Jose Simoes

            @sundberg84 -hey, i was meaning something like the ACS712 Module, but add the ic to the PCB for better integration.

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            sundberg84
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            @Jose-Simoes said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

            ACS712

            Well, to safe space and meet my goal to be able to have it so small so it fits inside a wallsocket i have excluded all sensors and included the MysX connector. This way every user can add their own sensor.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              Justas
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              Hi, @sundberg84
              I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
              Thanks & Regards

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              • J Justas

                Hi, @sundberg84
                I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
                Thanks & Regards

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                tonnerre33
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                #34

                @Justas Hello,

                yes you have to buy parts and assemble them yourself. 1.5$ by PCB is cheap, you can't have the components for this price ;)

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                • J Justas

                  Hi, @sundberg84
                  I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
                  Thanks & Regards

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                  gohan
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                  @Justas
                  you get the PCB only, then you have to buy all the components and solder them on the pcb :)
                  If you aren't a lot familiar with soldering you could also evaluate Sonoff wifi relays ;)

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                    Justas
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                    Thanks, I also checked the parts list and found that total price is more than $14, so now I see how stupid my questions was ;)

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                      and building it is 99% of the fun !

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                        #38

                        Very nice project. And it is so nice that you thought about the fuses for the power supply and the relais. :-)
                        I have two additional ideas:

                        • adding the ATSHA204 fo secure signing
                        • I could be to big to integrate but something like this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Bit-AC-220V-Optocoupler-Isolation-Module-Testing-Board-Adaptive-for-PLC/32754734564.html) would be great to detect the in wall switch state.
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                          exilit
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                          Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                            Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                            sundberg84
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                            @exilit - sorry my friend, I have not studied the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx very closely.
                            Mine is a bit smaller instead of 50x50 but he got 2 relays.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                              As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                              Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                              but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                                @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                                As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                                Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                                but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                                sundberg84
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                                @exilit - I think we both origin from the original discussion about the HLK-PM01: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1607/safe-in-wall-ac-to-dc-transformers.
                                If you read this you can pretty much see everything in the PCB (fuses, varistor and temp fuse to protect the HLK module).

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  Martin Nicolaisen
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                                  Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                                    Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                                    sundberg84
                                    Hardware Contributor
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                                    @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                                    I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                                      I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

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                                      @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                                      (60cm)

                                      Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                                        @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                                        (60cm)

                                        Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                                        sundberg84
                                        Hardware Contributor
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                                        @gohan - lol :)
                                        60mm!!!!

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                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                          https://photos.app.goo.gl/JBIVogCZMp0mOCVh2

                                          I must have been drunk when I ordered this. Any idea what I have ordered? I ordered thru dirtypcbs somehow.

                                          Does look a little bit like this PCB but not really. Have I found a early version and drunk ordered 10 of em?

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