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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)

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  • Jose SimoesJ Jose Simoes

    @sundberg84 -hey, i was meaning something like the ACS712 Module, but add the ic to the PCB for better integration.

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    sundberg84
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    @Jose-Simoes said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

    ACS712

    Well, to safe space and meet my goal to be able to have it so small so it fits inside a wallsocket i have excluded all sensors and included the MysX connector. This way every user can add their own sensor.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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      Justas
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      Hi, @sundberg84
      I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
      Thanks & Regards

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      • J Justas

        Hi, @sundberg84
        I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
        Thanks & Regards

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        tonnerre33
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        @Justas Hello,

        yes you have to buy parts and assemble them yourself. 1.5$ by PCB is cheap, you can't have the components for this price ;)

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        • J Justas

          Hi, @sundberg84
          I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
          Thanks & Regards

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          gohan
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          #35

          @Justas
          you get the PCB only, then you have to buy all the components and solder them on the pcb :)
          If you aren't a lot familiar with soldering you could also evaluate Sonoff wifi relays ;)

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            Justas
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            Thanks, I also checked the parts list and found that total price is more than $14, so now I see how stupid my questions was ;)

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              and building it is 99% of the fun !

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                hugch
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                #38

                Very nice project. And it is so nice that you thought about the fuses for the power supply and the relais. :-)
                I have two additional ideas:

                • adding the ATSHA204 fo secure signing
                • I could be to big to integrate but something like this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Bit-AC-220V-Optocoupler-Isolation-Module-Testing-Board-Adaptive-for-PLC/32754734564.html) would be great to detect the in wall switch state.
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                  exilit
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                  Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                  • E exilit

                    Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                    sundberg84
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                    @exilit - sorry my friend, I have not studied the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx very closely.
                    Mine is a bit smaller instead of 50x50 but he got 2 relays.

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      #41

                      @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                      As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                      Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                      but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                      • E exilit

                        @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                        As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                        Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                        but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                        sundberg84
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                        @exilit - I think we both origin from the original discussion about the HLK-PM01: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1607/safe-in-wall-ac-to-dc-transformers.
                        If you read this you can pretty much see everything in the PCB (fuses, varistor and temp fuse to protect the HLK module).

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                            Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                            @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                            I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            • sundberg84S sundberg84

                              @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                              I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

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                              @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                              (60cm)

                              Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                                @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                                (60cm)

                                Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                                @gohan - lol :)
                                60mm!!!!

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  https://photos.app.goo.gl/JBIVogCZMp0mOCVh2

                                  I must have been drunk when I ordered this. Any idea what I have ordered? I ordered thru dirtypcbs somehow.

                                  Does look a little bit like this PCB but not really. Have I found a early version and drunk ordered 10 of em?

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                                    That looks like version 4.1

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                                      Hi folks, I manage to solder all the tiny pieces together and now I need some advice on uploading some code/sketch. To start with... is there any instruction for dummies on internet how to upload sketch through ICSP ? I have one arduino which can be programmer, but I don't know how to do it. Then there is question about powering circuit during uploading code.... is it OK if it's connect to AC power during uploading code? And finally, can anyone post some simple sketch for this board to check if everythiing is working? Thanks for help.

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                                        Hi folks, I manage to solder all the tiny pieces together and now I need some advice on uploading some code/sketch. To start with... is there any instruction for dummies on internet how to upload sketch through ICSP ? I have one arduino which can be programmer, but I don't know how to do it. Then there is question about powering circuit during uploading code.... is it OK if it's connect to AC power during uploading code? And finally, can anyone post some simple sketch for this board to check if everythiing is working? Thanks for help.

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                                        hugch
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                                        @nightbodom Arduino have a tutorial for this https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoISP

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                                          @hugch thanks for info. I also find this: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard for burning bootloader. And after that... how should I upload sketch?

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