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  • scalzS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by scalz
    #209

    @alexsh1
    woops, yes i made it but forgot the upload. it's now uploaded here https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway#design-files

    Enjoy :)

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    • scalzS scalz

      @alexsh1
      woops, yes i made it but forgot the upload. it's now uploaded here https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway#design-files

      Enjoy :)

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      wrote on last edited by alexsh1
      #210

      @scalz Thank you.

      Does anyone have the PA transceiver version with Sensebender Gateway?
      Any feedback please?

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        #211

        @alexsh1

        If you mean using a nrf24 with lna/pa, with the gateway. Then yes.. I have had it running for some months now.

        Anything in particular that you want to know?

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        • tbowmoT tbowmo

          @alexsh1

          If you mean using a nrf24 with lna/pa, with the gateway. Then yes.. I have had it running for some months now.

          Anything in particular that you want to know?

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          wrote on last edited by alexsh1
          #212

          @tbowmo yes, that's what I meant
          I am thinking about installing either a normal nrf24l01+ or lna/pa version. I have had some issues with power in the past with the lna/pa transceiver.
          What's your experience? What kind of power supply do you use? How better is the coverage?

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            #213

            I haven't checked if the coverage is any better with the lna/pa version, compared to standard modules.

            Currently the gateway is connected to a RPI2, which in turn is powered by a 2A powersupply from RS Components

            I haven't had any issues with it yet, but then again.. I mainly receive data from sensor nodes, and not that much sending data to distant nodes from the gateway

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            • tbowmoT tbowmo

              I haven't checked if the coverage is any better with the lna/pa version, compared to standard modules.

              Currently the gateway is connected to a RPI2, which in turn is powered by a 2A powersupply from RS Components

              I haven't had any issues with it yet, but then again.. I mainly receive data from sensor nodes, and not that much sending data to distant nodes from the gateway

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              #214

              @tbowmo It is probably not Sensebender topic, but more lna+pa range one.
              I am not sure about my RPi3 as though it is powered by the 3A PSU, I have a USB z-wave stick, three transceivers, one UPS Plco (as HAT) and a 20x4 screen. I lot of power is consumed so not sure adding yet another one. (lna+pa is power hungry during peaks).

              I'll get the nrf24l01+ lna+pa ordered and test the range. In my view rfm69 range is probably better, but I have the rfm69 gateway on moteino with a trace antenna (very small footprint and it is based on ATMega1284P so 128KB sketch flash memory - more than I need).

              @hek - is it the intention to combine rfm69 and nrf24l01+ gateways in one in the future?
              I understand Sensebender GW is ready for it, but it is more a software limitation???
              I am really looking forward to combined GW.
              I also have a separate one for rfm95 so that I can use some remote sensors.

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              • hekH Offline
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                wrote on last edited by hek
                #215

                No, I haven't heard of any near plans in the core team about doing multi radio/sub-network support in 2.0.

                This requires some extra thoughts and would probably only fit on SAMD/ESP nodes.

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                • hekH hek

                  No, I haven't heard of any near plans in the core team about doing multi radio/sub-network support in 2.0.

                  This requires some extra thoughts and would probably only fit on SAMD/ESP nodes.

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                  #216

                  @hek Which is good as the Sensebender GW is based on SAMD! So it is ready to be the first 2-in-1 GW.
                  Anyway, keep on doing a great work! I'll patiently wait until the combined GW is there.

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                  • NiklasON Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by NiklasO
                    #217

                    Ordered from ITEAD. Nice to get rid of this stuff:
                    0_1490290480771_IMG_20170323_180333.jpg
                    Just nudging anything result in problems. ;-)
                    Time to fire up the 3D-printer.

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                      wrote on last edited by NiklasO
                      #218

                      Aaaand, it's up! Very good fit (the box).
                      0_1491402196442_IMG_20170405_162045.jpg

                      The box on top is just me trying out different colors of the case. ;)
                      The one on top has better look. Different brands of PLA.

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                      • nick van alstN Offline
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                        #219

                        @NiklasO that looks very good!

                        Are you willing to share your design files with us?
                        i just ordered my gateway to get rid of cables and lose components :D a case would really make it complete!

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                        • scalzS Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #220

                          @NiklasO
                          great :+1:
                          @nick-van-alst
                          you can get enclosure design files here https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway (on page bottom)
                          I designed different variants so pick which one you need.

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                          • M meddie

                            Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                            The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                            When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

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                            @meddie said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                            Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                            The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                            When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

                            @meddie Did you figure out what the problem is? I have exactly the same issue

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                            • alexsh1A alexsh1

                              @meddie said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                              Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                              The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                              When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

                              @meddie Did you figure out what the problem is? I have exactly the same issue

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                              meddie
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #222

                              @alexsh1
                              hi, yes it was very simple :-D the gateway has worked fine in this time, i thought that when nothing shown in serial monitor that the gateway dont work, but it did it, after i connected the gateway to FHEM (my controller) i saw that FHEM connects t mys Gateway.
                              So it worked all the time

                              Greets Eddie

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                              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                @meddie said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                                Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                                The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                                When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

                                @meddie Did you figure out what the problem is? I have exactly the same issue

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                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @alexsh1

                                Have you tried to enable the debug output in the GatewayW5100 example? I think it is disabled by default, due to the limited memory on the small atmega 328p

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                                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                  @alexsh1

                                  Have you tried to enable the debug output in the GatewayW5100 example? I think it is disabled by default, due to the limited memory on the small atmega 328p

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #224

                                  @tbowmo

                                  Yes, I did

                                  // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                                  #define MY_DEBUG
                                  #define MY_DEBUG_VERBOSE_SIGNING
                                  
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                                    wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                                    #225

                                    I am running Arduino IDE 1.8.1 on Windows 10
                                    Arduino AVR 1.6.18
                                    Arduino SAMD 1.6.12
                                    MySensors SAMD 1.0.5

                                    EDIT: I have tried to upload the default sketch on macbook with Arduino IDE 1.6.2
                                    It is still the same - no debug info in the terminal

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                                      #226

                                      OK, I did manage to get debug working partially.
                                      The gateway reads messages, but does not work as the gateway

                                      0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
                                      0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=17,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:348
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,26-10-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219479
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219482
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=2,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1717.62
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:5338.44
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.75
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.76
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=4,c=1,t=37,pt=4,l=4,sg=0:880
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:64.8
                                      0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=0,c=1,t=4,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1015
                                      

                                      I never had a message:

                                      Gateway startup complete.
                                      

                                      EDIT: Self-test with SensebenderSerial sketch gives me this:

                                      Sensebender GateWay test routine
                                      Mysensors core version : 2.1.1
                                      GateWay sketch version : 0.2
                                      ----------------------------------
                                      
                                      - > SHA204 Failed to wakeup SHA204
                                      - > SD CARD SD CARD did not initialize!
                                       -> EEPROM PASSED
                                      -> analog : 38 Failed
                                      
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                                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                        OK, I did manage to get debug working partially.
                                        The gateway reads messages, but does not work as the gateway

                                        0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
                                        0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=17,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:348
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,26-10-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219479
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219482
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=2,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1717.62
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:5338.44
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.75
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.76
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=4,c=1,t=37,pt=4,l=4,sg=0:880
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:64.8
                                        0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=0,c=1,t=4,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1015
                                        

                                        I never had a message:

                                        Gateway startup complete.
                                        

                                        EDIT: Self-test with SensebenderSerial sketch gives me this:

                                        Sensebender GateWay test routine
                                        Mysensors core version : 2.1.1
                                        GateWay sketch version : 0.2
                                        ----------------------------------
                                        
                                        - > SHA204 Failed to wakeup SHA204
                                        - > SD CARD SD CARD did not initialize!
                                         -> EEPROM PASSED
                                        -> analog : 38 Failed
                                        
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @alexsh1

                                        Could you check the soldering of the samd?

                                        SD card fails, if you haven't inserted a card, when running the self test.

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                                        • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                          @alexsh1

                                          Could you check the soldering of the samd?

                                          SD card fails, if you haven't inserted a card, when running the self test.

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                                          wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                                          #228

                                          @tbowmo

                                          I do not have the SD card so that's fine

                                          The samd looks fine - no bridges etc
                                          I can try to re-solder it with a hot fan
                                          Do you think samd may be at fault even though the serial GW is working?

                                          Unfortunately, I do not have another Ethernet w5100 to try it. Probably have to order a new one

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