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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @Anticimex Interesting observation - another node with the same rf24l01+ radio from the sensebender with the same GW and signing works without st=fail. This is now clear that this is not a rf24l01+ hardware issue.

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    Anticimex
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    @alexsh1 Indeed. And also that it is not a signing issue since I take it you use the same FW?
    I still think it is a HW issue. You have a new node, right? So the radio has a new power source?

    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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    • AnticimexA Anticimex

      @alexsh1 Indeed. And also that it is not a signing issue since I take it you use the same FW?
      I still think it is a HW issue. You have a new node, right? So the radio has a new power source?

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      @Anticimex said:

      @alexsh1 Indeed. And also that it is not a signing issue since I take it you use the same FW?
      I still think it is a HW issue. You have a new node, right? So the radio has a new power source?

      Yes, I tried to compare apples with apples:

      1. it is the same distance / FW
      2. the code is different to the expend that the sensebender has got Si7021/ATSHA204a and the other sensor did not. I may try to upload a simplified code to the sensebender just to test it to make it a more equal comparison.
      3. the power source is the same - 5V 500mA via AMS1117 + cap
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      • alexsh1A alexsh1

        @Anticimex said:

        @alexsh1 Indeed. And also that it is not a signing issue since I take it you use the same FW?
        I still think it is a HW issue. You have a new node, right? So the radio has a new power source?

        Yes, I tried to compare apples with apples:

        1. it is the same distance / FW
        2. the code is different to the expend that the sensebender has got Si7021/ATSHA204a and the other sensor did not. I may try to upload a simplified code to the sensebender just to test it to make it a more equal comparison.
        3. the power source is the same - 5V 500mA via AMS1117 + cap
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        @alexsh1 You could also try soft signing on the sensebender and see if that makes a difference. Perhaps the atsha device interferes with the radio (this depends on routing and such things). I have no sensebender myself and I have not noticed the behavior you describe with nrf24 and atsha204a.

        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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        • AnticimexA Anticimex

          @alexsh1 You could also try soft signing on the sensebender and see if that makes a difference. Perhaps the atsha device interferes with the radio (this depends on routing and such things). I have no sensebender myself and I have not noticed the behavior you describe with nrf24 and atsha204a.

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          @Anticimex I tried the sensebender with soft singing - still the same st=fail

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          • alexsh1A alexsh1

            @Anticimex I tried the sensebender with soft singing - still the same st=fail

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            @alexsh1 Ok. I guess that is "good news for me" as it rules out signing related hardware as well. I guess so far, the only conclusion is that rf performance is to some extent degraded on the sensebender.

            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @Anticimex I tried the sensebender with soft singing - still the same st=fail

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              @alexsh1 just a hunch: do both nodes have identical CPU's & clock frequency?

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @alexsh1 just a hunch: do both nodes have identical CPU's & clock frequency?

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                @Yveaux Correct - I have used Pro Mini 3.3V 8Mhz which corresponds to the sensebender

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @Yveaux Correct - I have used Pro Mini 3.3V 8Mhz which corresponds to the sensebender

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                  Is there a "pre setup" available yet? The failed transmits are before sensor values are transmitted, so they aren't in the actual sketch but somewhere in the library. I'd like to try just sleeping the sensor 5-10 seconds before the initial data is transmitted and see if that makes a difference.

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                  • AnticimexA Anticimex

                    @alexsh1 Ok. I guess that is "good news for me" as it rules out signing related hardware as well. I guess so far, the only conclusion is that rf performance is to some extent degraded on the sensebender.

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                    @Anticimex Yeah it seems like a combination of things but not a signing problem

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                    • ximinezX ximinez

                      Is there a "pre setup" available yet? The failed transmits are before sensor values are transmitted, so they aren't in the actual sketch but somewhere in the library. I'd like to try just sleeping the sensor 5-10 seconds before the initial data is transmitted and see if that makes a difference.

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                      Anticimex
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                      @ximinez not sure. I know it has been discussed. But you can always patch the library to test.

                      Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                      • ximinezX ximinez

                        Is there a "pre setup" available yet? The failed transmits are before sensor values are transmitted, so they aren't in the actual sketch but somewhere in the library. I'd like to try just sleeping the sensor 5-10 seconds before the initial data is transmitted and see if that makes a difference.

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                        @ximinez I do not think so. Either to patch the library or you do it in the sketch. Unless I do not know some other secret place.

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                        • ximinezX ximinez

                          Is there a "pre setup" available yet? The failed transmits are before sensor values are transmitted, so they aren't in the actual sketch but somewhere in the library. I'd like to try just sleeping the sensor 5-10 seconds before the initial data is transmitted and see if that makes a difference.

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                          @ximinez

                          You can add a before()-method.

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                            @ximinez

                            You can add a before()-method.

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                            @hek said:

                            @ximinez

                            You can add a before()-method.

                            It's that easy? I'll give it a try when I get around to it, unless @alexsh1 feels like trying it first :)

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                              Hi! I have just gotten four Sensebenders and was hoping to connect PIRs to them and powering them with AA batteries. I understand from the forums that people do this. But is there a working Arduino sketch example implementing a PIR for wake-up out there? (And perhaps there is a more detailed description for such a hardware setup for us newbies?)

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                                I have bought another couple of sensebenders.
                                I am not able to upload sketches to one of them.
                                When I connect the programmer the status led goes to solid red. From another one, I realized that it is not solid red.

                                What is the meaning of a solid red status LED?

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                                  What does the log say when you upload?

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                                  • HaakonH Haakon

                                    Hi! I have just gotten four Sensebenders and was hoping to connect PIRs to them and powering them with AA batteries. I understand from the forums that people do this. But is there a working Arduino sketch example implementing a PIR for wake-up out there? (And perhaps there is a more detailed description for such a hardware setup for us newbies?)

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                                    @Haakon Have a look here - https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2478/slim-cr123a-2aa-battery-node
                                    Just change your board for sensebender.

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                                      @hek

                                      D -Uflash:w:/var/folders/3s/rjbksrj96nv0hqfqjlpfw8bm0000gn/T/build8699526819198040594.tmp/SecurityPersonalizer.cpp.hex:i 
                                      
                                      avrdude: Version 6.0.1, compiled on Apr 14 2015 at 16:30:25
                                               Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
                                               Copyright (c) 2007-2009 Joerg Wunsch
                                      
                                               System wide configuration file is "/Applications/Arduino.app/Contents/Java/hardware/tools/avr/etc/avrdude.conf"
                                               User configuration file is "/Users/tom/.avrduderc"
                                               User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
                                      
                                               Using Port                    : /dev/cu.usbserial-DA01IGTO
                                               Using Programmer              : arduino
                                               Overriding Baud Rate          : 57600
                                      avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
                                      avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00
                                      avrdude: ser_recv(): read error: Device not configured
                                      Probleme beim Hochladen auf die Platine. Hilfestellung dazu unter http://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Troubleshooting#upload
                                      

                                      I have Sensebender selected as board.

                                      Btw, where is the hardware folder? It is not present anymore in the development branch?

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                                        @tomkxy said:

                                        Btw, where is the hardware folder? It is not present anymore in the development branch?

                                        You can use the build in board manager nowadays.
                                        https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoBoards

                                        Check board for solder bridges or anything suspicious.

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                                          Hi,

                                          I wonder if anyone modified the original sensebender sketch to include a door sensor?
                                          Do you need a pullup? If you have a sketch somewhere I would be happy if you could send/post it, as I have problem finding time to code right now.

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