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110v-230v AC to Mysensors PCB board

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  • toabhishekvermaT Offline
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    toabhishekverma
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    #199

    @GertSanders thanks for this link.
    So do you have working prototype? what board are you using? I am in middle of finalising components and trying to finalise design. With little knowledge of electronics my progress is slow.
    Also for 220 to 3.3v there is another converter from Olimex https://www.olimex.com/Products/Power/PWR-90-240V-3.3V0.8A/
    overall its abit smaller then Hi-Link... Hi-Link abit better because all covered and less dangerous.

    Please share if you have any design finalised.

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    • GertSandersG GertSanders

      I use the same SONGLE relays:

      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-SRD-03VDC-SL-C-3V-relay-5-feet-10A/32453591000.html

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      Yveaux
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      #200

      @GertSanders @toabhishekverma Do you have the dimensions and/or holding resistance?

      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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        #201

        Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
        output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

        I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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        • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

          Sorry I didnt get your questions .. do you mean dimensions of 220-3.3v converter. Here they are.
          output 2.5W 3.3V/0.8A +-0.2V size: 30x20x18mm

          I am not from electronics background so didn't get what holding resistance means?

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          #202

          @toabhishekverma No, I meant for the relay ;-)
          What's the resistance of the 3V coil? I want to know the current flowing when the relay is active.

          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          • toabhishekvermaT Offline
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            #203

            @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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            • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

              @Yveaux Still no idea about it. Check link if you get something from it. what I know is it can bear up to 10A current and can be controlled using 3v .... my order still in shipping so don't know more then that.

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              Yveaux
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              #204

              @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
              Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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                • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

                  @Yveaux http://www.songle.com/en/pdf/20084141716341001.pdf

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                  Yveaux
                  Mod
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                  #206

                  @HenryWhite Awesome! Didn't even think of looking for a datasheet of a Chinese relay ;-)

                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    #207

                    Another source :

                    50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                    http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                    • YveauxY Yveaux

                      @toabhishekverma Ah, ok. Didn't know they were still in transit.
                      Maybe @GertSanders has them 'on stock'?

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                      GertSanders
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                      #208

                      @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                      • P Porky6666

                        Another source :

                        50Pieces/Lot JRC-21F 4100 3V DC 6 Pins Miniature PCB Relay Brand New
                        http://s.aliexpress.com/MNVv2myE

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                        GertSanders
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                        #209

                        @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

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                        • GertSandersG GertSanders

                          @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

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                          HenryWhite
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                          #210

                          @GertSanders said:

                          @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                          Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                          0_1455277788002_123123.png

                          @GertSanders said:

                          @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                          I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                          Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                          At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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                          • HenryWhiteH HenryWhite

                            @GertSanders said:

                            @Yveaux No, also still waiting for the order to arrive. But a coil resistance of 20-25 Ohm means driving the coil with a FET. Not directly from a atmega328 pin.

                            Correct. Here's how I wired the songle relay on my Lithium Ion Sensor PCB:

                            0_1455277788002_123123.png

                            @GertSanders said:

                            @Porky6666 : only switches 3A, SONGLE relay can switch 10A.

                            I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A. I think there is a reason no german electronics shop sells songle relays :smile:

                            Plus, relays from an electronics shop in your country might cost the same than the songle relays or will just be a tiny bit more expensive.

                            At least this is true for 5V relays. 3V relays are hard to find (at least in germany)

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                            @HenryWhite said:

                            I wouldn't trust both of them when it comes to switching high amp devices over 3A.

                            I agree, I plan to switch lights, so my preference goes to the 10A model, just to be sure. I have used the SONGLE 5V versions, and none have ever given me reason to doubt their quality. Since I found a 3V3 powersupply I want to try building a full 3V3 board. Should be fun.

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                              toabhishekverma
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                              #212

                              @HenryWhite why do we need D1 Diode (if i am write) in that circuit? do this circuit will not work without diode?
                              (sorry dont know much about electronics)

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                              • toabhishekvermaT toabhishekverma

                                @HenryWhite why do we need D1 Diode (if i am write) in that circuit? do this circuit will not work without diode?
                                (sorry dont know much about electronics)

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                                HenryWhite
                                wrote on last edited by HenryWhite
                                #213

                                @toabhishekverma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_diode

                                in short: It is needed to protect the NPN transistor from damage.
                                The circuit will work without diode, But eventually damage the transistor.

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                                  Hardware Contributor
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                                  @GertSanders Have you breadboarded your 3.3V design? I'm a bit worried that removing linear converter will impair the performance of the our fussy nRF clones due to less power supply ripple rejection. I think those going for the ESP8266 are better off.

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                                    tomkxy
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                                    Anyone has an idea where to source the 5.5V varistor? I received a bunch from AliExpress following which seem to be broken.
                                    I found this link http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/575651.pdf. However, there seem to be a bunch of 5.5 V varistor. Can anybody help me figuring out the right ones?

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                                      Anyone has an idea where to source the 5.5V varistor? I received a bunch from AliExpress following which seem to be broken.
                                      I found this link http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/575651.pdf. However, there seem to be a bunch of 5.5 V varistor. Can anybody help me figuring out the right ones?

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                                      icebob
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                                      @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

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                                      • m26872M m26872

                                        @GertSanders Have you breadboarded your 3.3V design? I'm a bit worried that removing linear converter will impair the performance of the our fussy nRF clones due to less power supply ripple rejection. I think those going for the ESP8266 are better off.

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                                        GertSanders
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                                        #217

                                        @m26872 I have not used the 3V3 version of the Hilink converter, it was just shipped today (ordered last week). It will take a few more weeks to reach me. But then I will test it on my ac board. We will see.
                                        23/FEB: Update: the converters are here. I will make a node with this converter version this weekend.

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                                        • icebobI icebob

                                          @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

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                                          @icebob said:

                                          @tomkxy I'm using this one: http://hu.farnell.com/multicomp/mcvz1206m050agt/varistor-multilayer-4vac-0402/dp/2462756

                                          Thanks! It's a pity that the chinese "varistors" seem to be jumpers. I even saw in some offers on AliExpress that they are referred to as jumpers.

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