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  • L LastSamurai

    Mhm so I measured it for 2 days now and I am loosing about about 25mV per day (a little over 50mV overall). Thats really strange as I am using the pro mini without regulator or led. Has anybody seen similar problems?
    Otherwise I guess I have to start measuring, although I don't know how well my multimeter can do this :(

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    @LastSamurai is the drop steady or does it go up and down a lot? Mine goes up and down in the last bit (9mV) quite often, but not as much as 50mV.0_1467058275738_chart.png

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    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

      @LastSamurai is the drop steady or does it go up and down a lot? Mine goes up and down in the last bit (9mV) quite often, but not as much as 50mV.0_1467058275738_chart.png

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      @mfalkvidd Its more or less stable.
      0_1467058760247_upload-947392a5-8f6d-47f4-914b-dd6de12e6d09

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      • L LastSamurai

        @mfalkvidd Its more or less stable.
        0_1467058760247_upload-947392a5-8f6d-47f4-914b-dd6de12e6d09

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        @LastSamurai that's a pity. Can you try measuring the current consumed from the battery in different situations (disconnect power to the nrf, disconnect the moisture sensor, disconnect both the nrf and the moisture sensor)?

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          #90

          Thanks! I will (later) and post the results here.

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          • L LastSamurai

            Thanks! I will (later) and post the results here.

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            #91

            @LastSamurai
            I think Delay will really stop the MCU, Wait(xx) will continue to work in background? can anyone confirm this please

            You can try to use Delay(2000) between each step to know if the power is low between the steps, maybe it do something that increase the power consumption.

            Try to disconnect the Sensor, maybe it is damage? When sensor is disconnected it shall report 0%.

            Can you try with another Pro Mini?

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            • hekH hek

              Great idea @carlierd!

              One that has everything mounted and you just stick into the plant soil would be really useful.

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              flopp
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              #92

              @hek
              Like this?
              https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4045/solar-powered-soil-moisture-sensor

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                @flopp said:

                Wait(xx) will continue to work in background? can anyone confirm this please

                Yes, wait() continue processing incoming messages and does not sleep the MCU.

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                  Hi.

                  What is the last version from this ?

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                  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                    How did thinks go @Lars65 ?

                    I thought a bit more about this problem and I think I have come up with a pretty neat solution:
                    Throw away the chip on the moisture sensor and connect the "pitchfork" directly to the Arduino. Connect one prong to GND and one prong to an analog pin. No power pins are required.
                    https://codebender.cc/sketch:177182
                    The chip on the moisture sensor is basically a voltage divider. We get the same thing if we use the internal pull-up resistor on the Atmega processor.
                    EDIT: This means you can buy just the "pitchforks" really cheap: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-Soil-Hygrometer-Detection-Module-Soil-Moisture-Sensor-Probes/2051713873.html

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                    Fat Fly
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                    #95

                    Oops! Looks like there was a serious issue with your project.

                    If you are not sure what could be wrong please contact us.

                    (file in sketch) Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.o: In function global constructors keyed to oldvoltage': Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text._GLOBAL__I_oldvoltage+0xc): undefined reference to MySensor::MySensor(unsigned char, unsigned char)'
                    (file in sketch) Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.o: In function setup': Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text.setup+0x30): undefined reference to MySensor::begin(void (*)(MyMessage const&), unsigned char, unsigned char, unsigned char, rf24_pa_dbm_e, unsigned char, rf24_datarate_e)'
                    Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text.setup+0x50): undefined reference to MySensor::present(unsigned char, unsigned char, bool)' Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text.setup+0x78): undefined reference to MySensor::present(unsigned char, unsigned char, bool)'

                    This errors.

                    @mfalkvidd said:

                    How did thinks go @Lars65 ?

                    I thought a bit more about this problem and I think I have come up with a pretty neat solution:
                    Throw away the chip on the moisture sensor and connect the "pitchfork" directly to the Arduino. Connect one prong to GND and one prong to an analog pin. No power pins are required.
                    https://codebender.cc/sketch:177182
                    The chip on the moisture sensor is basically a voltage divider. We get the same thing if we use the internal pull-up resistor on the Atmega processor.
                    EDIT: This means you can buy just the "pitchforks" really cheap: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-Soil-Hygrometer-Detection-Module-Soil-Moisture-Sensor-Probes/2051713873.html

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                    • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

                      Oops! Looks like there was a serious issue with your project.

                      If you are not sure what could be wrong please contact us.

                      (file in sketch) Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.o: In function global constructors keyed to oldvoltage': Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text._GLOBAL__I_oldvoltage+0xc): undefined reference to MySensor::MySensor(unsigned char, unsigned char)'
                      (file in sketch) Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.o: In function setup': Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text.setup+0x30): undefined reference to MySensor::begin(void (*)(MyMessage const&), unsigned char, unsigned char, unsigned char, rf24_pa_dbm_e, unsigned char, rf24_datarate_e)'
                      Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text.setup+0x50): undefined reference to MySensor::present(unsigned char, unsigned char, bool)' Soil moisture for houseplants - multi-sensor internal pull-up.cpp:(.text.setup+0x78): undefined reference to MySensor::present(unsigned char, unsigned char, bool)'

                      This errors.

                      @mfalkvidd said:

                      How did thinks go @Lars65 ?

                      I thought a bit more about this problem and I think I have come up with a pretty neat solution:
                      Throw away the chip on the moisture sensor and connect the "pitchfork" directly to the Arduino. Connect one prong to GND and one prong to an analog pin. No power pins are required.
                      https://codebender.cc/sketch:177182
                      The chip on the moisture sensor is basically a voltage divider. We get the same thing if we use the internal pull-up resistor on the Atmega processor.
                      EDIT: This means you can buy just the "pitchforks" really cheap: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-Soil-Hygrometer-Detection-Module-Soil-Moisture-Sensor-Probes/2051713873.html

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                      @Fat-Fly
                      I have used the latest version of this sketch and it worked perfect.
                      If you use the latest version it must be something with your PC/Arduino IDE

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                        Fat Fly
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                        I trying compile from this and these errors.

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                        • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

                          I trying compile from this and these errors.

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                          #98

                          @Fat-Fly as flopp said, there is something wrong with your environment.

                          Are you using the development version of MySensors? If so, remove it and install 1.5 or convert the sketch to the development version by following the conversion guide.

                          If you already have 1.5, remove it and re-install it closely following the instructions. You can try verifying any of the stock MySensors example sketches if you like.

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                            #99

                            Good morning. I try after work. I use linux. I want monitor this https://goo.gl/photos/oqnXUU8Pa5wmz8k87 . Moisture and if needed open valves and switch on pump.At the moment i have 3 goups what i can control.Left , right tomatoes and 3 raised beds in center, sweet peppers.

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                            • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

                              Good morning. I try after work. I use linux. I want monitor this https://goo.gl/photos/oqnXUU8Pa5wmz8k87 . Moisture and if needed open valves and switch on pump.At the moment i have 3 goups what i can control.Left , right tomatoes and 3 raised beds in center, sweet peppers.

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                              @Fat-Fly very nice greenhouse!

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                                #101

                                Greenhouse

                                I want to monitor soil moisture and switch on irrigation valves and pump. Windows open arduino but why not mysensors+domoticz. I can't and not want every morning go to open greenhouse windows. let this make computer :)

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRbiiqhH2I

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                                    @Fat-Fly replace

                                    const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = { 0 };
                                    

                                    with

                                    const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = { A0 };
                                    

                                    Connect like this, except use D8 instead of A1 (the connection displayed is for a newer version of the sketch, which supports alternating polarity)

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                                      LastSamurai
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                                      @mfalkvidd So after running my sensor for 3 days with the "fork" connected I had a pretty big loss of voltage. So (as you suggested) I ran it for ~2 days without the fork connected (just the pro mini + radio) and the loss has gone down to ~0 (it keeps alternating between 2806 and 2799mV).
                                      So its obviously the fork itself that is the problem. I connected it directly to A0 and A1 and my code is above.
                                      Any idea where the error might be? I will try some other cables later because thats the only idea I have...

                                      @LastSamurai said:

                                      @mfalkvidd That sounds great! Are you using a pro mini too?
                                      I am using a 3V pro mini with power led and regulator removed and the nrf + sensor (on A0 and A1) connected and in about 1 day it dropped from 2945mV to 2907mV. Its running of of 2aa batteries and its on a breadboard for now (for testing).
                                      I am using your (slightly modified) code from above. Any idea why my power usage is so much higher?

                                      Here is my code:

                                      /*
                                      Based on https://github.com/mfalkvidd/arduino-plantmoisture
                                      
                                      This sketch uses the soilmoisture "forks" only that are found on ebay. They are connected between 2 analog pins where one gets pulled low and the other one measures.
                                      The pins are switched every time to avoid corrosion. Between readings the sensos sleeps to preserve batterylife.
                                      
                                      21.06.2016 V1.0 Base sketch
                                      */
                                      
                                      #include <SPI.h>
                                      #include <MySensor.h>
                                      
                                      #define round(x) ((x)>=0?(long)((x)+0.5):(long)((x)-0.5))
                                      
                                      #define CHILD_ID_MOISTURE 0
                                      #define CHILD_ID_BATTERY 1
                                      #define SLEEP_TIME 1800000 // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds) - 30 minutes
                                      #define THRESHOLD 1.1 // Only make a new reading with reverse polarity if the change is larger than 10%.
                                      #define STABILIZATION_TIME 1000 // Let the sensor stabilize before reading
                                      #define BATTERY_FULL 3143 // 2xAA usually give 3.143V when full
                                      #define BATTERY_ZERO 1900 // 2.34V limit for 328p at 8MHz. 1.9V, limit for nrf24l01 without step-up. 2.8V limit for Atmega328 with default BOD settings.
                                      const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = {A0, A1}; // Sensor is connected to these two pins. Avoid A3 if using ATSHA204. A6 and A7 cannot be used because they don't have pullups.
                                      
                                      MySensor gw;
                                      MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID_MOISTURE, V_HUM);
                                      MyMessage voltage_msg(CHILD_ID_BATTERY, V_VOLTAGE);
                                      long oldvoltage = 0;
                                      byte direction = 0;
                                      int oldMoistureLevel = -1;
                                      
                                      void setup()
                                      {
                                        gw.begin();
                                      
                                        gw.sendSketchInfo("Plant moisture w bat", "1.0 21062016");
                                      
                                        gw.present(CHILD_ID_MOISTURE, S_HUM);
                                        delay(250);
                                        gw.present(CHILD_ID_BATTERY, S_CUSTOM);
                                      
                                        Serial.println("Setting up pins...");  
                                        // init sensor pins
                                        pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[0], OUTPUT);
                                        pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[1], OUTPUT);
                                        digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[0], LOW);
                                        digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[1], LOW);
                                      }
                                      
                                      void loop()
                                      {
                                        int moistureLevel = readMoisture();
                                      
                                        // Send rolling average of 2 samples to get rid of the "ripple" produced by different resistance in the internal pull-up resistors
                                        // See http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2147/office-plant-monitoring/55 for more information
                                        if (oldMoistureLevel == -1) { // First reading, save current value as old
                                          oldMoistureLevel = moistureLevel;
                                        }
                                        if (moistureLevel > (oldMoistureLevel * THRESHOLD) || moistureLevel < (oldMoistureLevel / THRESHOLD)) {
                                          // The change was large, so it was probably not caused by the difference in internal pull-ups.
                                          // Measure again, this time with reversed polarity.
                                          moistureLevel = readMoisture();
                                        }
                                      
                                        // send value and reset level
                                        gw.send(msg.set((moistureLevel + oldMoistureLevel) / 2.0 / 10.23, 1));
                                        oldMoistureLevel = moistureLevel;
                                      
                                      
                                        long voltage = readVcc();
                                      
                                        if (oldvoltage != voltage) { // Only send battery information if voltage has changed, to conserve battery.
                                          gw.send(voltage_msg.set(voltage / 1000.0, 3)); // redVcc returns millivolts. Set wants volts and how many decimals (3 in our case)
                                          gw.sendBatteryLevel(round((voltage - BATTERY_ZERO) * 100.0 / (BATTERY_FULL - BATTERY_ZERO)));
                                          oldvoltage = voltage;
                                        }
                                      
                                        // sleep to conserve energy
                                        gw.sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                                      }
                                      
                                      /*
                                        Reads the current moisture level from the sensor.
                                        Alternates the polarity to reduce corrosion
                                      */
                                      int readMoisture() {
                                        pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], INPUT_PULLUP); // Power on the sensor by activating the internal pullup
                                        analogRead(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction]);// Read once to let the ADC capacitor start charging
                                        gw.sleep(STABILIZATION_TIME);
                                      
                                        int sensorRead = analogRead(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction]);
                                        int moistureLevel = (1023 - sensorRead); // take the actual reading
                                      
                                        Serial.print("Sensor read: ");
                                        Serial.println(sensorRead);
                                        Serial.print("Moisture level: ");  
                                        Serial.println(moistureLevel);  
                                      
                                        // Turn off the sensor to conserve battery and minimize corrosion
                                        pinMode(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], OUTPUT);
                                        digitalWrite(SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[direction], LOW);
                                      
                                        direction = (direction + 1) % 2; // Make direction alternate between 0 and 1 to reverse polarity which reduces corrosion
                                        return moistureLevel;
                                      }
                                      
                                      long readVcc() {
                                        // From http://provideyourown.com/2012/secret-arduino-voltmeter-measure-battery-voltage/
                                        // Read 1.1V reference against AVcc
                                        // set the reference to Vcc and the measurement to the internal 1.1V reference
                                      #if defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
                                        ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX4) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                                      #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny24__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny44__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny84__)
                                        ADMUX = _BV(MUX5) | _BV(MUX0);
                                      #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny25__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny45__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny85__)
                                        ADMUX = _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2);
                                      #else
                                        ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                                      #endif
                                      
                                        delay(2); // Wait for Vref to settle
                                        ADCSRA |= _BV(ADSC); // Start conversion
                                        while (bit_is_set(ADCSRA, ADSC)); // measuring
                                      
                                        uint8_t low  = ADCL; // must read ADCL first - it then locks ADCH
                                        uint8_t high = ADCH; // unlocks both
                                      
                                        long result = (high << 8) | low;
                                      
                                        result = 1125300L / result; // Calculate Vcc (in mV); 1125300 = 1.1*1023*1000
                                        return result; // Vcc in millivolts
                                      }
                                      
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                                      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                        @Fat-Fly replace

                                        const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = { 0 };
                                        

                                        with

                                        const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = { A0 };
                                        

                                        Connect like this, except use D8 instead of A1 (the connection displayed is for a newer version of the sketch, which supports alternating polarity)

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                                        I correct this and try again after work. Yesterday i do not find time.

                                        @mfalkvidd said:

                                        @Fat-Fly replace

                                        const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = { 0 };
                                        

                                        with

                                        const int SENSOR_ANALOG_PINS[] = { A0 };
                                        

                                        Connect like this, except use D8 instead of A1 (the connection displayed is for a newer version of the sketch, which supports alternating polarity)

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                                          @mfalkvidd : Maybe change sleeping time to 60 min and STABILIZATION_TIME 1000 to 500 ms or smaller ? This place is pure lost energy. Why not to try without stablization time ?

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