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  • sundberg84S Offline
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    sundberg84
    Hardware Contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #200

    Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

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      sincze
      MySensors Evangelist
      wrote on last edited by sincze
      #201

      @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
      also mysensors link
      Pretty strange huh.

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      • sinczeS sincze

        @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
        also mysensors link
        Pretty strange huh.

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        sundberg84
        Hardware Contributor
        wrote on last edited by
        #202

        @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        • sinczeS sincze

          @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
          also mysensors link
          Pretty strange huh.

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          zboblamont
          wrote on last edited by
          #203

          @sincze I have 10 of these DS18B20s strung over approximately 12m monitoring all rooms on both floors of my house and two side lofts, all running on 3.22v from a Pro-Mini. Never have skipped a beat, reporting every 5 minutes, well, aside from a telephone socket which pins went walkabout (the chips are crimped to RJ11s).
          There is something not right with the physical arrangement if you can get the same circuit to report at 5v...

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

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            sincze
            MySensors Evangelist
            wrote on last edited by sincze
            #204

            @sundberg84 I just soldered a myself a new out of the box pro mini using the same sketch..

            10246 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=4,st=OK:21.0
            250560 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:21.1
            255019 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:22.3
            259476 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:23.8
            263934 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:25.3
            268393 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.5
            272851 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
            277310 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
            281768 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.4
            290677 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.3
            295136 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
            299594 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.8
            304053 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
            308511 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.3
            312970 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.1
            317428 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.8
            321887 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.6
            326345 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.4

            Victory... :)

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            • gohanG Offline
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              gohan
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              wrote on last edited by
              #205

              Was the pro mini defective or just the pin you were using?

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              • gohanG gohan

                Was the pro mini defective or just the pin you were using?

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                sincze
                MySensors Evangelist
                wrote on last edited by
                #206

                @gohan Don't know. Pin3 could be used to drive the led tx without problems. It only did not work with the temp sensors. I moved the temp sensor to d2.... modified the sketch and it did not work as well. and d2 was driveing rx led. So well root cause unknown... solution: solder a new pro mini and keep the other one for different purpose.

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                • sinczeS sincze

                  @gohan Don't know. Pin3 could be used to drive the led tx without problems. It only did not work with the temp sensors. I moved the temp sensor to d2.... modified the sketch and it did not work as well. and d2 was driveing rx led. So well root cause unknown... solution: solder a new pro mini and keep the other one for different purpose.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #207

                  @sincze Did you use D2+D3 on all the same devices?

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                  • gohanG Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #208

                    I'd try the other digital pins too

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                    • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                      @sincze Did you use D2+D3 on all the same devices?

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                      sincze
                      MySensors Evangelist
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #209

                      @zboblamont @gohan The Sensor with the replaced Pro Mini is in production now ;-). I'll start soldering a new Easy/Newbie PCB, because once you know how to do it... it is Easy and test the individual pins with a door/window sensor.

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                      • BarnaB Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #210

                        Hi Sundberg84,
                        What could you advise for battery powering (remove led and regulator too) if I would like to use Mini 5V and measure the battery level too ?
                        thx

                        Barna

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                        • BarnaB Barna

                          Hi Sundberg84,
                          What could you advise for battery powering (remove led and regulator too) if I would like to use Mini 5V and measure the battery level too ?
                          thx

                          Barna

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                          Hardware Contributor
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #211

                          @Barna the 5v pro mini are running a 16mhz crystal as default and this needs higher voltage to be stable compred to 8mhz (3.3v pro mini).

                          I have never tried this so can't give much advice but I would probably take the effort of reprogramming the fuses and bootloader to a internal 1mhz and run the hardware as that (the hardware is the same on 5v except the regulator and crystal )

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          • BarnaB Barna

                            Hi Sundberg84,
                            What could you advise for battery powering (remove led and regulator too) if I would like to use Mini 5V and measure the battery level too ?
                            thx

                            Barna

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                            gohan
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                            #212

                            @Barna why do you want to use a 5v arduino?

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                              #213

                              Hi Sundberg84,
                              I have used this step up booster
                              https://www.ebay.com/itm/181612513907?rmvSB=true

                              but found this (2nd),
                              https://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-Mini-2-in-1-1-8V-5V-to-3-3V-DC-Step-Down-Step-Up-Converter-Power-For-Ardu/182793323053?hash=item2a8f54c22d:g:PJMAAOSwYL9ZzAXC
                              It has lower noise, so I could connect the radio to the Mini. What do you think ?

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                              • BarnaB Barna

                                Hi Sundberg84,
                                I have used this step up booster
                                https://www.ebay.com/itm/181612513907?rmvSB=true

                                but found this (2nd),
                                https://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-Mini-2-in-1-1-8V-5V-to-3-3V-DC-Step-Down-Step-Up-Converter-Power-For-Ardu/182793323053?hash=item2a8f54c22d:g:PJMAAOSwYL9ZzAXC
                                It has lower noise, so I could connect the radio to the Mini. What do you think ?

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                                wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                #214

                                @barna lower noice is better but I can not confirm this module is better. You have to try. Yes you can connect this to EasyPCB just like the first one.

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                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                  Hi All!

                                  Could someone suggest me an elegant way to extend the mysx connector? SO i would like to multiple the A4 A5 pins onto another prototype board to use more I2C devices....

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                                    Hi All!

                                    Could someone suggest me an elegant way to extend the mysx connector? SO i would like to multiple the A4 A5 pins onto another prototype board to use more I2C devices....

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #216

                                    @tommas just add a wire on the back side to the prototyping area ? You could design a MysX daughter board as well 😉

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                      @tommas just add a wire on the back side to the prototyping area ? You could design a MysX daughter board as well 😉

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                                      #217

                                      @sundberg84

                                      Unofrtunately i havent got the skills and free time for a daughter board.:(. But doesnt have someone else a daughterboard?:)

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @tommas just add a wire on the back side to the prototyping area ? You could design a MysX daughter board as well 😉

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                                        @sundberg84

                                        Or have you got any suggestion expansion board for arduino mini pro ? Something like this: arduino-pro-mini-undershield (but it can not buy on ebay)

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                                          @sundberg84

                                          Or have you got any suggestion expansion board for arduino mini pro ? Something like this: arduino-pro-mini-undershield (but it can not buy on ebay)

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tommas how about a wire to the prototyping area ?

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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