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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • Paul RobertsonP Offline
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    #435

    Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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    • Paul RobertsonP Paul Robertson

      Is there a drilling and outline file available?

      sundberg84S Offline
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      sundberg84
      Hardware Contributor
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      #436

      @Paul-Robertson - hi!
      Yes, but this is Eagles output gerber files.

      Drill: SundbergMys9.TXT
      Outline can be found in all other files:

      https://www.pcbway.com/project/share/How_to_generate_Gerber_from_Eagle.html

      0_1505990995661_upload-c5e3c1d3-3dfb-46dc-9e10-e2d5dbfaca0d

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        sincze
        MySensors Evangelist
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        #437

        Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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        • sinczeS sincze

          Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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            #439

            IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
            Thanks!!

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            • gohanG Offline
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              gohan
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              #440

              If you want to use a lipo battery, you need a voltage regulator

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              • H hiddenuser

                IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                Thanks!!

                sundberg84S Offline
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                sundberg84
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                #441

                @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                  @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

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                  gohan
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                  #442

                  @sundberg84 that tp4056 outputs just the lipo battery voltage

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                    #443

                    Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                    I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                    0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                    • H hiddenuser

                      Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                      I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                      0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                      sundberg84
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                      #444

                      @hiddenuser - well, what would a battery measurer be if it reported a constant 3.3v boosted voltage? ;)
                      It all depends on how everything is connected (pictures?) but if you have connected it as battery instryctions the radio and voltage divider that measured the incoming battery are not a part of the booster circuit. This to prevent noice to the radio and to be able to actually measure the battery voltage and not step-up voltage which is the idea behind the board.

                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      • H hiddenuser

                        Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                        I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                        0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

                        gohanG Offline
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                        gohan
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                        #445

                        @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                          dakipro
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                          #446

                          hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
                          I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

                          C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                          GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                          GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                            #447

                            @sundberg84 interesting question...or maybe stupid question not sure...

                            i have a tonn of 3v pro mini's but im thinking of mains powering some for motion sensors.... would i set it up as battery, and then just use a voltage regulator on where the step up usually would be? or is there a better way to handle it?

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                            • gohanG Offline
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                              gohan
                              Mod
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #448

                              there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                                markjgabb
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                                #449

                                ahhh thats cool... so use regulated instead and it will pull down the voltage for antenna over that side
                                ...and the board can handle the voltage anyway so it should be fine....

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                                • gohanG gohan

                                  there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                                  dbemowsk
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                                  #450

                                  @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                                  @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                                  https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                                  Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                                  • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                    @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                                    @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                                    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                                    Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                                    gohan
                                    Mod
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                                    #451

                                    @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                                      dbemowsk
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                                      @gohan Have a bare board right in front of me. Ran continuity and no connection from regulator V-Out to VCC. VCC goes to the REG jumper and V-Out goes to the BAT jumper. VCC ties to the V-In on the regulator.

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                                      • gohanG gohan

                                        @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                                        dbemowsk
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                                        @gohan ayou wouldn't want to run the pro mini and the radio both off of that small regulator anyway. Takes too much from the radio.

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                                          #454

                                          @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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