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  • tbowmoT tbowmo

    I haven't checked if the coverage is any better with the lna/pa version, compared to standard modules.

    Currently the gateway is connected to a RPI2, which in turn is powered by a 2A powersupply from RS Components

    I haven't had any issues with it yet, but then again.. I mainly receive data from sensor nodes, and not that much sending data to distant nodes from the gateway

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    #214

    @tbowmo It is probably not Sensebender topic, but more lna+pa range one.
    I am not sure about my RPi3 as though it is powered by the 3A PSU, I have a USB z-wave stick, three transceivers, one UPS Plco (as HAT) and a 20x4 screen. I lot of power is consumed so not sure adding yet another one. (lna+pa is power hungry during peaks).

    I'll get the nrf24l01+ lna+pa ordered and test the range. In my view rfm69 range is probably better, but I have the rfm69 gateway on moteino with a trace antenna (very small footprint and it is based on ATMega1284P so 128KB sketch flash memory - more than I need).

    @hek - is it the intention to combine rfm69 and nrf24l01+ gateways in one in the future?
    I understand Sensebender GW is ready for it, but it is more a software limitation???
    I am really looking forward to combined GW.
    I also have a separate one for rfm95 so that I can use some remote sensors.

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      #215

      No, I haven't heard of any near plans in the core team about doing multi radio/sub-network support in 2.0.

      This requires some extra thoughts and would probably only fit on SAMD/ESP nodes.

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      • hekH hek

        No, I haven't heard of any near plans in the core team about doing multi radio/sub-network support in 2.0.

        This requires some extra thoughts and would probably only fit on SAMD/ESP nodes.

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        @hek Which is good as the Sensebender GW is based on SAMD! So it is ready to be the first 2-in-1 GW.
        Anyway, keep on doing a great work! I'll patiently wait until the combined GW is there.

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          #217

          Ordered from ITEAD. Nice to get rid of this stuff:
          0_1490290480771_IMG_20170323_180333.jpg
          Just nudging anything result in problems. ;-)
          Time to fire up the 3D-printer.

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            #218

            Aaaand, it's up! Very good fit (the box).
            0_1491402196442_IMG_20170405_162045.jpg

            The box on top is just me trying out different colors of the case. ;)
            The one on top has better look. Different brands of PLA.

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              #219

              @NiklasO that looks very good!

              Are you willing to share your design files with us?
              i just ordered my gateway to get rid of cables and lose components :D a case would really make it complete!

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                #220

                @NiklasO
                great :+1:
                @nick-van-alst
                you can get enclosure design files here https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway (on page bottom)
                I designed different variants so pick which one you need.

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                • M meddie

                  Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                  The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                  When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

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                  @meddie said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                  Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                  The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                  When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

                  @meddie Did you figure out what the problem is? I have exactly the same issue

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                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                    @meddie said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                    Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                    The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                    When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

                    @meddie Did you figure out what the problem is? I have exactly the same issue

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #222

                    @alexsh1
                    hi, yes it was very simple :-D the gateway has worked fine in this time, i thought that when nothing shown in serial monitor that the gateway dont work, but it did it, after i connected the gateway to FHEM (my controller) i saw that FHEM connects t mys Gateway.
                    So it worked all the time

                    Greets Eddie

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @meddie said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                      Ok i just connected the W5100 and NRF24 Module and uploaded the GatewayW5100 Sketch and when the upload is done after reset i dont get any output on serial monitor.
                      The orange, green and red led are lighting.

                      When i upload the SensebenderGatewaySerial then i get output on serial monitor. It think the problem must be the w5100. But what going wrong?

                      @meddie Did you figure out what the problem is? I have exactly the same issue

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                      @alexsh1

                      Have you tried to enable the debug output in the GatewayW5100 example? I think it is disabled by default, due to the limited memory on the small atmega 328p

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                      • tbowmoT tbowmo

                        @alexsh1

                        Have you tried to enable the debug output in the GatewayW5100 example? I think it is disabled by default, due to the limited memory on the small atmega 328p

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                        #224

                        @tbowmo

                        Yes, I did

                        // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                        #define MY_DEBUG
                        #define MY_DEBUG_VERBOSE_SIGNING
                        
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                          alexsh1
                          wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                          #225

                          I am running Arduino IDE 1.8.1 on Windows 10
                          Arduino AVR 1.6.18
                          Arduino SAMD 1.6.12
                          MySensors SAMD 1.0.5

                          EDIT: I have tried to upload the default sketch on macbook with Arduino IDE 1.6.2
                          It is still the same - no debug info in the terminal

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                            alexsh1
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                            #226

                            OK, I did manage to get debug working partially.
                            The gateway reads messages, but does not work as the gateway

                            0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
                            0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=17,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:348
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,26-10-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219479
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219482
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=2,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1717.62
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:5338.44
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.75
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.76
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=4,c=1,t=37,pt=4,l=4,sg=0:880
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:64.8
                            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=0,c=1,t=4,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1015
                            

                            I never had a message:

                            Gateway startup complete.
                            

                            EDIT: Self-test with SensebenderSerial sketch gives me this:

                            Sensebender GateWay test routine
                            Mysensors core version : 2.1.1
                            GateWay sketch version : 0.2
                            ----------------------------------
                            
                            - > SHA204 Failed to wakeup SHA204
                            - > SD CARD SD CARD did not initialize!
                             -> EEPROM PASSED
                            -> analog : 38 Failed
                            
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                            • alexsh1A alexsh1

                              OK, I did manage to get debug working partially.
                              The gateway reads messages, but does not work as the gateway

                              0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
                              0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=17,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:348
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,26-10-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219479
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,10-10-0,s=1,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:51219482
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=2,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1717.62
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=0,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:5338.44
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.75
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=3,c=1,t=37,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:10.76
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,11-11-0,s=4,c=1,t=37,pt=4,l=4,sg=0:880
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:64.8
                              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:READ,6-6-0,s=0,c=1,t=4,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:1015
                              

                              I never had a message:

                              Gateway startup complete.
                              

                              EDIT: Self-test with SensebenderSerial sketch gives me this:

                              Sensebender GateWay test routine
                              Mysensors core version : 2.1.1
                              GateWay sketch version : 0.2
                              ----------------------------------
                              
                              - > SHA204 Failed to wakeup SHA204
                              - > SD CARD SD CARD did not initialize!
                               -> EEPROM PASSED
                              -> analog : 38 Failed
                              
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                              tbowmo
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #227

                              @alexsh1

                              Could you check the soldering of the samd?

                              SD card fails, if you haven't inserted a card, when running the self test.

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                              • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                @alexsh1

                                Could you check the soldering of the samd?

                                SD card fails, if you haven't inserted a card, when running the self test.

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                                #228

                                @tbowmo

                                I do not have the SD card so that's fine

                                The samd looks fine - no bridges etc
                                I can try to re-solder it with a hot fan
                                Do you think samd may be at fault even though the serial GW is working?

                                Unfortunately, I do not have another Ethernet w5100 to try it. Probably have to order a new one

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                                  @alexsh1

                                  I know that @Anticimex had problems with one of the pre-production samples that we got from China, with various problems, that was solved with "reflowing" the samd with a hot air gun.. So it was just a thought, that it could be a bad solder joint..

                                  The W5100 is using it's own dedicated SPI port, so even though that the radio works, doesn't mean that there couldn't be any solder problems around the samd pins for W5100.

                                  We have 3 different SPI ports in use on the gateway, one for the MysX connector, one for radio / sdcard, and one for W5100..

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                                    @alexsh1

                                    I know that @Anticimex had problems with one of the pre-production samples that we got from China, with various problems, that was solved with "reflowing" the samd with a hot air gun.. So it was just a thought, that it could be a bad solder joint..

                                    The W5100 is using it's own dedicated SPI port, so even though that the radio works, doesn't mean that there couldn't be any solder problems around the samd pins for W5100.

                                    We have 3 different SPI ports in use on the gateway, one for the MysX connector, one for radio / sdcard, and one for W5100..

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                                    @tbowmo I do not have the oven to reflow the whole board, but can mount / unmount or re-work certain components 0805 or 0603. Below this it is a pain in the a***

                                    Another observation - The GW behaves like this with or without W5100 mounted.
                                    Seems like an SPI problem to me. How can I wire W5100 to MYSX please and what shall I can in the sketch please? Thank for your help - very much appreciate it

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                                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                      @tbowmo I do not have the oven to reflow the whole board, but can mount / unmount or re-work certain components 0805 or 0603. Below this it is a pain in the a***

                                      Another observation - The GW behaves like this with or without W5100 mounted.
                                      Seems like an SPI problem to me. How can I wire W5100 to MYSX please and what shall I can in the sketch please? Thank for your help - very much appreciate it

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                                      @alexsh1 The ATSHA is not connected to the SPI and is totally unrelated, so I am also inclined to suspect that perhaps one side of the SAMD is not entirely in contact with the pads. I had to hot-airgun mine to get USB working well but it was an early prototype like @tbowmo said.

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                                        @tbowmo OK, I manage to find the answer here -

                                        MYSX
                                        D11 - MOSI
                                        D12 - MISO
                                        D13 - SCK
                                        D14 -CS

                                        #define MY_SOFTSPI
                                        #define MY_SOFT_SPI_SCK_PIN 13
                                        #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MISO_PIN 12
                                        #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MOSI_PIN 11
                                        MY_RF24_CS_PIN 14
                                        RF24_CE_PIN ???

                                        Am I correct?

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                                          My current config for nrf24l01+ and w5100 is as follows:

                                          #define MY_GATEWAY_W5100
                                          
                                          #if !defined(MY_W5100_SPI_EN) && !defined(ARDUINO_ARCH_SAMD)
                                          #define MY_SOFTSPI
                                          #define MY_SOFT_SPI_SCK_PIN 14
                                          #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MISO_PIN 16
                                          #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MOSI_PIN 15
                                          #endif
                                          
                                          #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 5
                                          #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 6
                                          

                                          Why CE / CS pins are 5 and 6?
                                          Should that be 27 and 3?

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