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  • martinhjelmareM Offline
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    #81

    This is on my most wanted purchase list now. :smile:

    FYI, I noticed the spelling of "Sensebender" is "Sensbender" for this gateway on openhardware.io, so you're breaking your brand name. :wink: Would it be possible to amend it? If you try to search for it with the original spelling you only find the two sensor Sensebenders.

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    • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

      This is on my most wanted purchase list now. :smile:

      FYI, I noticed the spelling of "Sensebender" is "Sensbender" for this gateway on openhardware.io, so you're breaking your brand name. :wink: Would it be possible to amend it? If you try to search for it with the original spelling you only find the two sensor Sensebenders.

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      #82

      Opps! Thanks for reporting @martinhjelmare.

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      • alexsh1A Offline
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        #83

        This has been on my watch list for some time. Excellent work guys - I placed an order and looking forward upgrading my gateway.

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        • Sander TeunissenS Offline
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          #84

          Is this device capable of being a gateway for both nRF24L01+ radio and the Hope RF RFM69HCW radio simultaneously ?
          I have some nRF24 nodes and see a lot of new goodies equiped with the RFM69 radio. One gateway to serve both would be excellent !

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            #85

            No, only one radio type or rs485 is possible at the moment.

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            • Sander TeunissenS Sander Teunissen

              Is this device capable of being a gateway for both nRF24L01+ radio and the Hope RF RFM69HCW radio simultaneously ?
              I have some nRF24 nodes and see a lot of new goodies equiped with the RFM69 radio. One gateway to serve both would be excellent !

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              #86

              @Sander-Teunissen

              The hardware supports both NRF and RFM69 at the same time, they share the same SPI bus, but has separate chip select lines etc.

              Unfortunately the MySensors library doesn't support multiple transports, so this time it's the software that limits things.

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              • F Offline
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                #87

                Yes ! Itead send me the gateway today

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                • F Fabien

                  Yes ! Itead send me the gateway today

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #88

                  @Fabien said in 💬 Sensebender Gateway:

                  Yes ! Itead send me the gateway today

                  I have got mine today. Very quick

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                  • tbowmoT tbowmo

                    @Sander-Teunissen

                    The hardware supports both NRF and RFM69 at the same time, they share the same SPI bus, but has separate chip select lines etc.

                    Unfortunately the MySensors library doesn't support multiple transports, so this time it's the software that limits things.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #89

                    @tbowmo
                    The fact, that MySensors doesn't support more then one radio, was the reason for me not to order the sensebender gateway.

                    I am working on a gateway⁄controller based on an arduino due, which supports at least up to 3 serial gateways via hardware serial. It handles ID and time (synced with ntp) requests and does pub/sub to mqtt with readable topics.(inspired by the old mqtt client gateway)

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                    • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                      @tbowmo
                      The fact, that MySensors doesn't support more then one radio, was the reason for me not to order the sensebender gateway.

                      I am working on a gateway⁄controller based on an arduino due, which supports at least up to 3 serial gateways via hardware serial. It handles ID and time (synced with ntp) requests and does pub/sub to mqtt with readable topics.(inspired by the old mqtt client gateway)

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #90

                      @FotoFieber this is a software limitation. Hardware wise I do not see why Sensebender GW cannot handle two (nrf24l01+ and rfm69/rfm95) GWs at the same time

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @FotoFieber this is a software limitation. Hardware wise I do not see why Sensebender GW cannot handle two (nrf24l01+ and rfm69/rfm95) GWs at the same time

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                        FotoFieber
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                        #91

                        @alexsh1
                        The question is: will the software restriction be solved? If not, I do not care if it is a software or a hardware restriction. :)

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                        • tbowmoT Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #92

                          @FotoFieber

                          Well, you need to hack the core anyways, if you want to accomplish your goal.

                          You could also help out with the core development, so we can get support for multiple transport on one gateway ;)

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                          • tbowmoT tbowmo

                            @FotoFieber

                            Well, you need to hack the core anyways, if you want to accomplish your goal.

                            You could also help out with the core development, so we can get support for multiple transport on one gateway ;)

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                            @tbowmo
                            No, I don't have to hack the core. I use the serial API. From an architectural point of view, I don't see the need to change anything in MySensors. A serial controller can be built for under 20€ Including the radio. Why should I add complexity to support more than one radio support with one cpu in MySensors, if I can have the functipnality with the abstraction layer of the serial API? Please keep MySensors s simple as possible.

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                            • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                              @tbowmo
                              No, I don't have to hack the core. I use the serial API. From an architectural point of view, I don't see the need to change anything in MySensors. A serial controller can be built for under 20€ Including the radio. Why should I add complexity to support more than one radio support with one cpu in MySensors, if I can have the functipnality with the abstraction layer of the serial API? Please keep MySensors s simple as possible.

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                              #94

                              @FotoFieber simple for who? Simplicity also involve maintenance and code complexity. What about testability and regression testing? Nobody gets paid for maintaining mysensors.

                              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                              • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                                @tbowmo
                                No, I don't have to hack the core. I use the serial API. From an architectural point of view, I don't see the need to change anything in MySensors. A serial controller can be built for under 20€ Including the radio. Why should I add complexity to support more than one radio support with one cpu in MySensors, if I can have the functipnality with the abstraction layer of the serial API? Please keep MySensors s simple as possible.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #95

                                @FotoFieber

                                But you ditched the sensebender Gateway, as it doesn't support multiple radios at the same time? Now you are saying that you would keep it as one radio per gateway?

                                This doesn't make sense :)

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                                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                  @FotoFieber

                                  But you ditched the sensebender Gateway, as it doesn't support multiple radios at the same time? Now you are saying that you would keep it as one radio per gateway?

                                  This doesn't make sense :)

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #96

                                  @tbowmo
                                  Maybe the design of the sensebender gateway doesn't make sense to my architectural viewpoint....

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                                  • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                                    @alexsh1
                                    The question is: will the software restriction be solved? If not, I do not care if it is a software or a hardware restriction. :)

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #97

                                    @FotoFieber This is a question for the MySensors dev team. Sensebender can handle both radios. Currently, there is a software restriction.

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                                    • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                                      @tbowmo
                                      No, I don't have to hack the core. I use the serial API. From an architectural point of view, I don't see the need to change anything in MySensors. A serial controller can be built for under 20€ Including the radio. Why should I add complexity to support more than one radio support with one cpu in MySensors, if I can have the functipnality with the abstraction layer of the serial API? Please keep MySensors s simple as possible.

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                                      wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                                      #98

                                      @FotoFieber No, you do have to hack the core if you want both radios to be handled properly, i.e. to handle message queues with corresponding radios. For example, sending a message is done via rfm69 only and not via nrf24l01+

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                                        Contest Winner
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        The architecture we use would place this kind of situation to the controller to solve. One gw per network. So one gw for nrf and one for rfm.
                                        HW is cheap, and library should be kept simple.

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                        • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                          The architecture we use would place this kind of situation to the controller to solve. One gw per network. So one gw for nrf and one for rfm.
                                          HW is cheap, and library should be kept simple.

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                                          @Anticimex
                                          One gateway per radio, that is what I think is best. :+1:

                                          What I try to do, is to implement a controller with arduino due for up to three serial gateways. If there would be a solution for ethernet&rfm69 I may not have invested time in this. :laughing:

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