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💬 Very narrow and minimal switch node

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  • GertSandersG Offline
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    GertSanders
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    wrote on last edited by GertSanders
    #18

    @meddie I try to stay within the 50mm length limit, so that we can have the boards produced in a 50x50 format. Making it longer means we need to go to a 100x100mm format, and that makes it more costly (not necessarily per board, but some people do not need +50 sensor boards).

    At the moment we get 5 of these nodes within the 50x50mm limit, so a prototype run already produces 50 boards.

    Anyway, I'm not exscluding this idea, I just do not have a need for it now. The minimal node is meant to be minimal, not a complete MySensors node. If you need that, there is always the Sensebender Micro (which has it all built in).

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    • Carl HC Offline
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      @GertSanders I'm a fan of your boards. I have your 20x30mm board, AC/Capable 50x50mm board (my favorite) and now I ordered your v1.1 of your narrow board because you are agree my suggestion for I2C port with jumper ;)

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        #20

        @GertSanders , 1 question, you have specified 1/8w resistor... did you know if 1/4w fit on narrow board ?

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        • GertSandersG Offline
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          GertSanders
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          #21

          @Carl H If the 1/4w resistor can fit in pads 7mm apart from each other, then should be no problem. But they need to stay flat to fit under the processor.

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          • J Offline
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            jacikaas
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            #22

            Hello, @GertSanders I would like to ask. How I understand it is possible to load different sketch type to this board and then I could use it like one of MySensors sketches? For example could I load MyS humidity sketch? Thanks!

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            • J jacikaas

              Hello, @GertSanders I would like to ask. How I understand it is possible to load different sketch type to this board and then I could use it like one of MySensors sketches? For example could I load MyS humidity sketch? Thanks!

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              GertSanders
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              #23

              @jacikaas: to program the processor, you need to remove it from the board and program it on a breadboard or another board with ftdi interface.
              But you can load a sketch like the humidity sensor sketch if you add a I2C sensor like a SI7021. I plan to do just that.

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              • GertSandersG Offline
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                wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                #24

                The very narrow boards v1-1 have arrived :-)

                0_1456950291190_IMG_7800.jpg

                0_1456950446982_IMG_7801.jpg

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                • GertSandersG Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  The latest member of my growing sensor family, a reedswitch sensor with wakeup from power down by change on pin 2, wakeup every 23 hours to report battery voltage, and of course a blinky light when these things happen :-)

                  0_1456959867067_IMG_7804.jpg
                  1_1456959867067_IMG_7805.jpg
                  2_1456959867067_IMG_7807.jpg

                  Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

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                  • carlierdC Offline
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                    carlierd
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                    #26

                    Very nice !!
                    I just started learning Eagles to modify your board for RFM69 compatibility. The road will be long ;)
                    Could be good also to add ATSHA204A but in a second time !

                    David.

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                    • GertSandersG GertSanders

                      The latest member of my growing sensor family, a reedswitch sensor with wakeup from power down by change on pin 2, wakeup every 23 hours to report battery voltage, and of course a blinky light when these things happen :-)

                      0_1456959867067_IMG_7804.jpg
                      1_1456959867067_IMG_7805.jpg
                      2_1456959867067_IMG_7807.jpg

                      Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

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                      #27

                      @GertSanders said:

                      Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

                      @GertSanders
                      Westvleteren Blonde is very nice :)
                      Can you please remind me the difference berwrrn v1 and 1-1?
                      I think it would be good to add FTDI connection, but the space is very limited

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @GertSanders said:

                        Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

                        @GertSanders
                        Westvleteren Blonde is very nice :)
                        Can you please remind me the difference berwrrn v1 and 1-1?
                        I think it would be good to add FTDI connection, but the space is very limited

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                        GertSanders
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                        wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                        #28

                        @alexsh1 FTDI would be nice to reprogram more easily, but in my case I have a stable sketch which is loaded 1 time, and then the node is deployed. No point in providing extra pins or using boardspace if it is only used once or twice.

                        I saw that @AWI mentioned pogo-pins to make connections. Also a nice idea. In any case, my node is not designed to be flexible, and after programming I want to forget it. These nodes are sitting on doors and windows and need to do 1 thing only: show status of the reed-switched that are connected to them.

                        But adding some pads so that pogo pins can make contact to RX, TX and !RESET would still be possible.

                        It will be nice to see if a RFM69 radio can be connected by @carlierd . Looking forward to some pictures :-)

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          @GertSanders said:

                          Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

                          @GertSanders
                          Westvleteren Blonde is very nice :)
                          Can you please remind me the difference berwrrn v1 and 1-1?
                          I think it would be good to add FTDI connection, but the space is very limited

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                          GertSanders
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                          wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                          #29

                          @alexsh1

                          The difference between v1-0 and V1-1:

                          V1-0:
                          has 4 pins connected to VCC, GND, D2, D3 (in this sequence).
                          LED is connected to D8

                          V1-1:
                          has 4 pins, of which 2 are fixed. Vcc and GND are at the outside (closest to board edge).
                          The two pins in the middle (pin1 and pin2) can be connected to two different pins each by using the solder jumper.
                          pin1 can be connected to SDA/A4 or to D2
                          pin2 can be connected to SCL/A5 or to GND
                          LED is connected to D6

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                          • GertSandersG GertSanders

                            @alexsh1 FTDI would be nice to reprogram more easily, but in my case I have a stable sketch which is loaded 1 time, and then the node is deployed. No point in providing extra pins or using boardspace if it is only used once or twice.

                            I saw that @AWI mentioned pogo-pins to make connections. Also a nice idea. In any case, my node is not designed to be flexible, and after programming I want to forget it. These nodes are sitting on doors and windows and need to do 1 thing only: show status of the reed-switched that are connected to them.

                            But adding some pads so that pogo pins can make contact to RX, TX and !RESET would still be possible.

                            It will be nice to see if a RFM69 radio can be connected by @carlierd . Looking forward to some pictures :-)

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                            AWI
                            Hero Member
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @GertSanders A bit off a hassle, but I don't need pads... ;-)

                            0_1457102582398_upload-7fc04aa0-f360-48dd-b170-601e208392ee

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                            • AWIA AWI

                              @GertSanders A bit off a hassle, but I don't need pads... ;-)

                              0_1457102582398_upload-7fc04aa0-f360-48dd-b170-601e208392ee

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                              GertSanders
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @AWI very nice, where did you buy the pins ?

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                              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                @AWI very nice, where did you buy the pins ?

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                                AWI
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                @GertSanders I used these pins. These work for me but there are many other types in the same store which could serve your needs better.

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                                  #33

                                  @GertSanders - my idea to use exactly for windows. I was thinking about z-wave ones, but £32 a pot is just way too expensive given I need quite a few. How do you power them?

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                                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                    @GertSanders - my idea to use exactly for windows. I was thinking about z-wave ones, but £32 a pot is just way too expensive given I need quite a few. How do you power them?

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                                    GertSanders
                                    Hardware Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @alexsh1 I power them similar to @m26872 , but with AAA batteries. They fit the 16x16mm cable guide by Legrand (which is a known brand for this in Belgium), available is most DIY stores.

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                                      #35

                                      Dear
                                      I ordered a few...:-)
                                      Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                                      Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                                      I hope i get you hardware working..

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                                      • Dombo71D Dombo71

                                        Dear
                                        I ordered a few...:-)
                                        Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                                        Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                                        I hope i get you hardware working..

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @Dombo71 said:

                                        Dear
                                        I ordered a few...:-)
                                        Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                                        Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                                        I hope i get you hardware working..

                                        @Dombo71
                                        You can find a few working sketches in the 'Build' section of the website. However, don't you have an idea what it is exactly you'd like to build? I would be useful to know before throwing any sketch.

                                        FYG DHT is by far not a favourite one for a battery use in my view. There are others - SI7120 or BME280

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                                        • Dombo71D Dombo71

                                          Dear
                                          I ordered a few...:-)
                                          Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                                          Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                                          I hope i get you hardware working..

                                          GertSandersG Offline
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                                          GertSanders
                                          Hardware Contributor
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @Dombo71
                                          What do you mean with "using less power"?

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