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💬 AC-DC double solid state relay module

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  • Richard_SkeR Offline
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    Richard_Ske
    wrote on last edited by
    #144

    Hi All,

    This is my first post on this site!!

    Yes this is a really good project but for the UK controlling a light inside of a wall switch you would need to do the following.

    Re-wire the ceiling rose as in the UK there is a live feed from the rose that is switched by the switch and then returns to the rose to the "switched live" See http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/lights_and_switches/ceilingroseb2.jpg

    Put an extra cable up to the ceiling rose with the return cable from the board that goes to the switched live and add an extra terminal in the ceiling rose to link the neutral to the other side of the lamp fitting.

    If the back box is metal, it would need to be changed to a plastic box , I wouldn't myself want to mount the board in an earthed metal box!!

    As other contributors have noted there isn't any fusing on the live and neutral feeds if the SSR were to fail short because of a short circuit in the lamp or ceiling rose then there could be a large current going through board that could potentially cause a fire, safety is always the first thought with any mains electrical circuit.

    I could see this board being used in a plastic box inline to a table lamp etc. but it would need a lot of work to re-wire your house if you intended to use it behind a wall switch.

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    • laster13L laster13

      I am trying to test a montage which I am not sure about and besides when I plug the pcb on the socket the lamp remains on. I invite you to read my post on the Domoticz forum.
      http://easydomoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2680&p=25219#p25219

      I am sorry for my english, I use the traducer of google

      tonnerre33T Offline
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      tonnerre33
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #145

      @laster13 Yes your schema is correct.
      The sketch has been modified by Nca78, you can try it first.
      The problem does not come from the unused switch, because i use this node without switch.

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      • E Offline
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        Eawo
        wrote on last edited by
        #146

        I'm going to do these for my light switches but what should I use for in wall on off switch without relay?

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        • HilltanH Offline
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          Hilltan
          wrote on last edited by
          #147

          The link to to DirtyPCBs is broken, got a new one?

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          • HilltanH Hilltan

            The link to to DirtyPCBs is broken, got a new one?

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            tonnerre33
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #148

            @Hilltan Hello, i think this link will be ok : http://dirtypcbs.com/store/details/885/mysensors-v3-3-2-light-switch

            For information, a few members have too many PCB of this node that's why if you are living in Vietnam or asia, Nca78 can send you PCB and if you are in france, i can send too (contact by pm for terms).

            I use this node since 20 days ago, and it's working well ;)

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            • johnym30J Offline
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              johnym30
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              #149

              Hi everyone.
              I can not find anywhere Slow Blow Fuse (250v 0.2A). Does anyone has an available link??
              Thanks in advance.

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              • johnym30J Offline
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                johnym30
                wrote on last edited by
                #150

                Never mind, got them. thank you!!!

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                • laster13L Offline
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                  laster13
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #151

                  @tonnerre33
                  I will be really interested to buy you all the components you would no longer need. NRF, pcb, fuse thermal ... If you agree, can you tell me a list of what you offer thanks

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                  • C Offline
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                    chickey
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #152

                    If anyone in the UK is after boards/parts i have spares.

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                    • Rodolfo VieiraR Offline
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                      Rodolfo Vieira
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #153

                      hello, anyone use this project with home assistant?

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                      • proddyP Offline
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                        proddy
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #154

                        Thanks for this. One question about the SSR. Does it matter if its a zero crossing relay or not if just switching lamps with fixed amps? That the difference between the G3MB-202P and G3MB-202PL. I'm not sure which to get.

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                        • proddyP proddy

                          Thanks for this. One question about the SSR. Does it matter if its a zero crossing relay or not if just switching lamps with fixed amps? That the difference between the G3MB-202P and G3MB-202PL. I'm not sure which to get.

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                          Nca78
                          Hardware Contributor
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #155

                          @Paul-Derbyshire if you're buying on aliexpress at less than 3$ a relay, you're buying chinese clones like most of us here. I doubt they bothered implementing the zero-crossing function on the chinese clones...

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                          • HaMH Offline
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                            HaM
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #156

                            Hi,

                            I love this project. This is almost exactly what I wanted to do by myself (but I have no knowledge in PCB design). As this project shouldn't require much power, have you ever though about using a dropping capacitor PSU (http://www.circuitsgallery.com/2012/07/transformer-less-ac-to-dc-capacitor-power-supply-circuit2.html) instead of the HLK-PM01 ?
                            If this is a working solution, it would make your project even cheaper.

                            An other question on the DS18B20. Wont the proximity with the relays (heat generators) will disturb the temperature reading ?

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                            • HaMH HaM

                              Hi,

                              I love this project. This is almost exactly what I wanted to do by myself (but I have no knowledge in PCB design). As this project shouldn't require much power, have you ever though about using a dropping capacitor PSU (http://www.circuitsgallery.com/2012/07/transformer-less-ac-to-dc-capacitor-power-supply-circuit2.html) instead of the HLK-PM01 ?
                              If this is a working solution, it would make your project even cheaper.

                              An other question on the DS18B20. Wont the proximity with the relays (heat generators) will disturb the temperature reading ?

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                              Nca78
                              Hardware Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by Nca78
                              #157

                              Hello !
                              Transformerless design means there is not isolation between main voltage and low voltage parts. You can get electrocuted with 110/220V when touching the low voltage side. It means it can be used only in the case of a sealed box.

                              For the temperature sensor the main source of heat is the hlk that heats up a lot. It's purpose is not to sense the temperature in the room, but to monitor the temperature inside the sensor and make sure there is not problem with the hlk overheating.

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                              • Nca78N Nca78

                                Hello !
                                Transformerless design means there is not isolation between main voltage and low voltage parts. You can get electrocuted with 110/220V when touching the low voltage side. It means it can be used only in the case of a sealed box.

                                For the temperature sensor the main source of heat is the hlk that heats up a lot. It's purpose is not to sense the temperature in the room, but to monitor the temperature inside the sensor and make sure there is not problem with the hlk overheating.

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                                HaM
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #158

                                @Nca78 Thanks for the advice.

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                                  A Former User
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #159

                                  Would it be possible tot change the relays to one (or two) triacs, keeping it's current features and also allowing it to dim lights?

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                                  • rhapenR Offline
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                                    rhapen
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #160

                                    anyone found the Slow Blow Fuse (250v 0.2A) on aliexpress? if yes please link.

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                                    • rhapenR Offline
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                                      rhapen
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #161

                                      found 250V 0.25A o aliexpress - i believe this will be good enough - http://tiny.cc/h4fpiy

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                                      • Sacha TelgenhofS Sacha Telgenhof

                                        Hi @aproxx , very nice module! Just one question: after studying the board I still not quite understand how an existing light switch needs to be connected. There are 3 connecters, one for AC and two relays. Where do I connect the light switch to?

                                        Cheers! Sacha

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                                        rhapen
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #162

                                        @Sacha-Telgenhof : It also took me bit of time. It is the PINs on the board 7 GND 4 for two switches 7 and 4 are the digital inputs on arduino.

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                                        • Jose SimoesJ Offline
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                                          Jose Simoes
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #163

                                          hey @Aproxx, nice project, do you think a current sensor could be added to the PCB to monitor electrical consumption. the idea of adding triact to the circuit by @overlordt seems to work theoretically.

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