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💬 FOTA (Wireless Programming)

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  • skywatchS Offline
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    skywatch
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    Thank you all for the responses. If someone gets physical access then the game is over anyway. I just want to protect from some bored malicious person getting remote access and causing problems or even a fire.
    If it is secure from 'others' hacking it remotely I might give it a try.

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    • AndurilA Offline
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      Anduril
      wrote on last edited by
      #21

      When initiating a ota firmware update MYSController sends a reboot message to the node. Does anyone knows if that is protected by signing (if enabled)? If so, it would be quite safe excluding the physical access.

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      • chrilleC Offline
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        chrille
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        #22

        Same question as @b0rmann - is it possible to do OTA from a non-Windows environment (Mac OSX or Linux)? A simple implementation in python or perl, that could talk to the gateway, and do OTA from the command line, would be a really nice to have. I would prefer the dualoptiboot solution, since it'll work with RFM69 nodes as well (at least that's my understanding)

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        • E Offline
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          emc2
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          It may be a silly question, but what is the point of setting the fuses before burning the bootloader (using Dualoptiboot)?

          After burning the bootloader fuses are changed to E:06, H:D2, L:E2 anyway as set in board.txt

          MysensorsMicro.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
          MysensorsMicro.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
          MysensorsMicro.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
          MysensorsMicro.bootloader.high_fuses=0xD2
          MysensorsMicro.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
          

          Should we burn them after to revert to E:06, H:DA, L:E2 ? (and loosing EESAVE which seems bad)

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          • tonnerre33T Offline
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            tonnerre33
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #24

            hello all,

            i have installed MYSBootloaderV13pre on my arduino mini pro 3.3V and this work fine.

            But i encountered some issues with my jeedom version (the node.js crash) that why i want to replace this bootloader (temporarily) but i can't.

            Do you know why when i burn a different bootloader, MYSBootloaderV13pre is still present ?

            Thx in advance for your answers

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            • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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              Cliff Karlsson
              wrote on last edited by
              #25

              This might be a stupid question but would it be possible to add a AT25DF512C-SSHN-B to a regular Pro mini by connecting it to a custom PCB like a jModule with a AT25DF512C-SSHN-B ?

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              • scalzS Offline
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                scalz
                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by scalz
                #26

                i don't see any problem if you connect correctly the spi bus. it depends what's a jmodule??
                in case i did this, perhaps smaller..
                https://www.openhardware.io/view/18/OTA-and-Authentication-Evaluation-Board

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                  tlustoch
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #27

                  There is an ambiguity in documetation of MYSBootloader:

                  1. On https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#configuration there is a Note: "You can still have OTA FW updates without external flash but it requires the MYSBootloader and disabled MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE"
                  2. Above on https://www.mysensors.org/about/ota#enabling-ota-in-your-sketch there is written: "To enable OTA in your sketch, you need to add #define MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE"
                    So, in the case of MYSBootloader (no external flash), what is correct (I suppose 2)?

                  Two additional questions:
                  Where is located MYSBootloader for MySensors 2.0?
                  Is it usable with 8MHz internal clock config?

                  Thanks for answer(s)

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                  • T tlustoch

                    There is an ambiguity in documetation of MYSBootloader:

                    1. On https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#configuration there is a Note: "You can still have OTA FW updates without external flash but it requires the MYSBootloader and disabled MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE"
                    2. Above on https://www.mysensors.org/about/ota#enabling-ota-in-your-sketch there is written: "To enable OTA in your sketch, you need to add #define MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE"
                      So, in the case of MYSBootloader (no external flash), what is correct (I suppose 2)?

                    Two additional questions:
                    Where is located MYSBootloader for MySensors 2.0?
                    Is it usable with 8MHz internal clock config?

                    Thanks for answer(s)

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                    tonnerre33
                    Hardware Contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    @tlustoch You need to enable MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE only if you use DualOptiBoot.
                    With MYSBootloader, you don't need ;)

                    I use MYSBootloader 1.3 pre-release with mysensors 2.0. You can find it here : https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3453/mysbootloader-1-3-pre-release-myscontroller-1-0-0beta

                    And yes it usable with 8 MHZ internal clock config if you burn the bootloader with 8Mhz internal clock setting.

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                      LastSamurai
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #29

                      Short question from me: my mysensors network is set up with domoticz as a controller on a raspberry pi. I need to upgrade all my nodes to Version 2 of mysensors soon and want to enable wireless programming while I am at it. As far as I understand I do need to use MYSController to update a node, which seems to be a windows only program. Any way I can still use that with my linux based (raspi) network?

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                      • TakeroT Offline
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                        Takero
                        Hardware Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by Takero
                        #30

                        For OTA Update under Rpi i used this: http://www.virtualhere.com/

                        • just install it on the Pi, stop the controler software
                        wget http://www.virtualhere.com/sites/default/files/usbserver/vhusbdarmpi2
                        

                        vhusbdarmpi2 -> for Pi2 only (see homepage for other platforms)

                        sudo chmod +x ./vhusbdarmpi2
                        
                        • start the virtualhere server
                        sudo ./vhusbdarmpi2
                        
                        • install the client on your Windows System
                        • Mount the Com-Port
                        • start MYSControler
                        • do what you want to do
                        • stop client

                        now you have to reboot your rpi, stop virtualhere server its not enoth, cant mount device again. After restart everythinks works well.

                        Greetings

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                        • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                          Cliff Karlsson
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #31

                          I can't figure out this step:
                          Go to Arduino Ide, in Board Manager, choose SensebenderMicro if you want to use DualOptiboot bootloader OTA. Or choose Arduino Mini pro MYSBootloader
                          I cant find any sensbender board when searching the boards manager, I also tried downloading the 2.0 directly but cant find any boards there either. How should I do this?

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                          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                            I can't figure out this step:
                            Go to Arduino Ide, in Board Manager, choose SensebenderMicro if you want to use DualOptiboot bootloader OTA. Or choose Arduino Mini pro MYSBootloader
                            I cant find any sensbender board when searching the boards manager, I also tried downloading the 2.0 directly but cant find any boards there either. How should I do this?

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                            hek
                            Admin
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #32

                            @Cliff-Karlsson

                            https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoBoards

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                            • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                              Cliff Karlsson
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              Thanks, but now I get this error in Arduino IDE when burning the bootloader:

                              avrdude: warning: cannot set sck period. please check for usbasp firmware update.
                              avrdude: warning: cannot set sck period. please check for usbasp firmware update.
                              ***failed;
                              avrdude: WARNING: invalid value for unused bits in fuse "efuse", should be set to 1 according to datasheet
                              This behaviour is deprecated and will result in an error in future version
                              You probably want to use 0xfe instead of 0x06 (double check with your datasheet first).
                              avrdude: warning: cannot set sck period. please check for usbasp firmware update.
                              avrdude: warning: cannot set sck period. please check for usbasp firmware update.

                              Is this still ok?

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                              • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                                Cliff Karlsson
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #34

                                And this happens when I try to upoad a sketch to the board:

                                Sketch uses 16,796 bytes (54%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
                                Global variables use 739 bytes (36%) of dynamic memory, leaving 1,309 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.

                                avrdude: stk500_paged_load(): (a) protocol error, expect=0x10, resp=0x90
                                avrdude: stk500_cmd(): protocol error
                                avr_read(): error reading address 0x0137
                                read operation not supported for memory "flash"
                                avrdude: failed to read all of flash memory, rc=-2
                                the selected serial port avrdude: failed to read all of flash memory, rc=-2
                                does not exist or your board is not connected

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                                • A Offline
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                                  Alex B Goode
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #35

                                  Fellows, let me ask you about the procedure of switching controllers during OTA.
                                  My sensors are connected to a serial gateway, which is operated by a controller.
                                  In my case the controller is Domoticz server hosted by Raspberry Pi2.

                                  So if I want to initiate updating one of my nodes over the air then I need to... stop my current controller on my Raspberry Pi2 and... start a new gateway on a Windows machine with MYSControler, wait when all nodes will re-discover the new gateway and connect, and then use MYSControler to do all updates I need?

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                                  • A Alex B Goode

                                    Fellows, let me ask you about the procedure of switching controllers during OTA.
                                    My sensors are connected to a serial gateway, which is operated by a controller.
                                    In my case the controller is Domoticz server hosted by Raspberry Pi2.

                                    So if I want to initiate updating one of my nodes over the air then I need to... stop my current controller on my Raspberry Pi2 and... start a new gateway on a Windows machine with MYSControler, wait when all nodes will re-discover the new gateway and connect, and then use MYSControler to do all updates I need?

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                                    Takero
                                    Hardware Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #36

                                    @Alex-B-Goode Yes this is the Way. If you dont like to disconnect the Gateway from Pi you Can use my procedure was i wrote some posts before. If the nodes discovered One time you dont need to wait again. MYScontroller save the discovered nodes.

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                                      Werwolfx
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #37

                                      +1 Where is located MYSBootloader for MySensors 2.0?
                                      and where is a linux version?

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                                      • seeersS Offline
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                                        seeers
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #38

                                        is it possible or planned to do a OTA update over RS485 (with external flash using DualOptiBoot) ?

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                                        • seeersS seeers

                                          is it possible or planned to do a OTA update over RS485 (with external flash using DualOptiBoot) ?

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                                          mfalkvidd
                                          Mod
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #39

                                          @seeers see partial answer in https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/5751/ota-programming-over-wire-rs-485/2

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