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💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @yury Hmmmm. Datasheet is stating that the standby current < 500 nA

    However, actively measuring current - 4.5mA
    This would kill 2032 very quickly

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    Nca78
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    @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

    However, actively measuring current - 4.5mA
    This would kill 2032 very quickly

    Matter of hours I guess, it's half more than the max continuous discharge current of a CR2032.

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    • Nca78N Nca78

      @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

      However, actively measuring current - 4.5mA
      This would kill 2032 very quickly

      Matter of hours I guess, it's half more than the max continuous discharge current of a CR2032.

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      @Nca78 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

      @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

      However, actively measuring current - 4.5mA
      This would kill 2032 very quickly

      Matter of hours I guess, it's half more than the max continuous discharge current of a CR2032.

      It is 4.mA for 120ms for less just for measurements
      However, I agree that this is not very battery friendly

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      • alexsh1A alexsh1

        @Nca78 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        However, actively measuring current - 4.5mA
        This would kill 2032 very quickly

        Matter of hours I guess, it's half more than the max continuous discharge current of a CR2032.

        It is 4.mA for 120ms for less just for measurements
        However, I agree that this is not very battery friendly

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        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        @Nca78 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        However, actively measuring current - 4.5mA
        This would kill 2032 very quickly

        Matter of hours I guess, it's half more than the max continuous discharge current of a CR2032.

        It is 4.mA for 120ms for less just for measurements
        However, I agree that this is not very battery friendly

        Ah ok I completely misunderstood :D But yes seems high for a CR2032 sensor...

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            @Koresh,
            I tried to buy some of these on the link you provided, but couldn't do it. Do you still have this component in your stock ? I like to buy 865mhz HW/W versions.

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              @Abdu-Sahin said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

              865mhz HW/

              Hi

              They will be ready end of this week. do you need both HCW and CW versions?

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              • Y yury

                @Abdu-Sahin said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                865mhz HW/

                Hi

                They will be ready end of this week. do you need both HCW and CW versions?

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                @yury
                I like to try both 865 HW/W versions. I need sensors with long battery life and good RF distance coverage for my project. I've noticed some people suggested using only 'W' version for battery powered nodes, but from my initial experience I didn't have good distance with 'W' version.

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                • A Abdu Sahin

                  @yury
                  I like to try both 865 HW/W versions. I need sensors with long battery life and good RF distance coverage for my project. I've noticed some people suggested using only 'W' version for battery powered nodes, but from my initial experience I didn't have good distance with 'W' version.

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                  @Abdu-Sahin said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                  I need sensors with long battery life and good RF distance coverage

                  )) either good battery life or good coverage though... or good coverage and 2-3 AA batteries. CW is 20 mA when sending signal and HCW is about 100 mA. CR2032 battery will be drained by HCW pretty fast.
                  HW/W versions have bigger footprints (Module Size:19.7X16mm) and not compatible with the "Button size".
                  HCW/CW (Module Size:16X16mm) are equivalents for HW/W.

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                  • Y yury

                    @Abdu-Sahin said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                    I need sensors with long battery life and good RF distance coverage

                    )) either good battery life or good coverage though... or good coverage and 2-3 AA batteries. CW is 20 mA when sending signal and HCW is about 100 mA. CR2032 battery will be drained by HCW pretty fast.
                    HW/W versions have bigger footprints (Module Size:19.7X16mm) and not compatible with the "Button size".
                    HCW/CW (Module Size:16X16mm) are equivalents for HW/W.

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                    @yury
                    I think I can start with CW version as start. Battery life is important for me.

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                    • A Abdu Sahin

                      @yury
                      I think I can start with CW version as start. Battery life is important for me.

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                      @Abdu-Sahin said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                      Battery life is important

                      sent you a message in the chat...

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                      • Y yury

                        @Abdu-Sahin said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                        Battery life is important

                        sent you a message in the chat...

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                        #90

                        @yury
                        You can email me if you like.
                        My email is uk.asahin at gmail com

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                        • A Abdu Sahin

                          @yury
                          You can email me if you like.
                          My email is uk.asahin at gmail com

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                          @Abdu-Sahin I was interested in reading your conversation about battery life etc. I hope you will continue the conversation on the forum instead of in private.

                          Thanks.

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                            Miroslav KadanÄ›
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                            It is possible to buy only PCB ? Upload PCB to OSH Park, or send PCB in eagle. I do not have Altium Designer... Thx

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                            • Miroslav KadanÄ›M Miroslav KadanÄ›

                              It is possible to buy only PCB ? Upload PCB to OSH Park, or send PCB in eagle. I do not have Altium Designer... Thx

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                              Koresh
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                              @Miroslav-KadanÄ› I've just uploaded latest gerbers (rfm reset pin was connected to controller, connection of si1132 was fixed, reverse battery polarity protection was added). You can place PCB order at any factory. :wink:

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                                Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

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                                  @yury @koresh

                                  Few months ago, I've ordered some of your nodes, which work perfectly by the way, but I needed something that could speed up testing of any sensors.
                                  So following our conversation on Github with Yury, I've created a PCB based on your Button size node, with a field for an extension board. The aim is to have a versatile board, and extensions that could handle virtually any sensors, like NodeManager project, but for hardware ;)
                                  And it's also a first time experiment in the land of PCBs
                                  0_1506424891385_IMAG0468.jpg

                                  Apart 2 errors ( maybe more in the future !), it seems to be well routed, as tests been proving, but i still not tried the FOTA function.
                                  Errors was a badly routed button and it seems that, after the RFM chip is soldered, communication with USBasp gets bad! Is it because SCK and MISO route ( from pin headers to atmega328 ) goes through the RFM chip before atmega ?

                                  You were mentioning some mods in dualoptiboot in order to flash M25P40, https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3160/ota-flash-types-for-mysensors/43.
                                  Would it be possible to share these ?

                                  And just out of curiosity, how did you manage to solder SI7021 and TSL2561 ?
                                  By now, it seems like a mystery for me...

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                                    @yury @koresh

                                    Few months ago, I've ordered some of your nodes, which work perfectly by the way, but I needed something that could speed up testing of any sensors.
                                    So following our conversation on Github with Yury, I've created a PCB based on your Button size node, with a field for an extension board. The aim is to have a versatile board, and extensions that could handle virtually any sensors, like NodeManager project, but for hardware ;)
                                    And it's also a first time experiment in the land of PCBs
                                    0_1506424891385_IMAG0468.jpg

                                    Apart 2 errors ( maybe more in the future !), it seems to be well routed, as tests been proving, but i still not tried the FOTA function.
                                    Errors was a badly routed button and it seems that, after the RFM chip is soldered, communication with USBasp gets bad! Is it because SCK and MISO route ( from pin headers to atmega328 ) goes through the RFM chip before atmega ?

                                    You were mentioning some mods in dualoptiboot in order to flash M25P40, https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3160/ota-flash-types-for-mysensors/43.
                                    Would it be possible to share these ?

                                    And just out of curiosity, how did you manage to solder SI7021 and TSL2561 ?
                                    By now, it seems like a mystery for me...

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                                    Koresh
                                    Contest Winner
                                    wrote on last edited by Koresh
                                    #96

                                    @getlarge said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                    after the RFM chip is soldered, communication with USBasp gets bad

                                    Did you solder R4 (from your schematic https://github.com/getlarge/Cosmonode/blob/master/Cosmonode_sch.pdf)? I can't find it on the boards photo.
                                    PS
                                    Will share compiled bootloader and sources soon.

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                                      @Koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                      Sorry, picture's quality is not too good!
                                      R4 ( 10Kohm) is soldered. I read about that pullup resistor that is needed to sync with atmega SCK. Any other hint on what could cause that ?
                                      Maybe, that was a mistake when i changed the fuse? but I didn't have problem before with these settings.

                                      So I'll have to be patient to use M25P40!

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                                      • C chbla

                                        Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

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                                        @chbla said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                        Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

                                        Can anyone quickly tell me how to do it correctly? I thought it didn't work but I'm unsure.

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                                          @chbla said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                          Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

                                          Can anyone quickly tell me how to do it correctly? I thought it didn't work but I'm unsure.

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                                          Koresh
                                          Contest Winner
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                                          @chbla This board has standard FTDI header (see attached screenshot).

                                          0_1506503500534_ftdi.png

                                          But it also has all of ISP pins (mosi, miso, sck, rst)

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