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  • alowhumA alowhum

    Quick question: when programming the eByte module (or any module really):

    Should I select "reset enable or not? What does that do exactly?
    Should I select clock: "Crystal oscillator" for the eByte module?

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    #1575

    @alowhum "Reset enable" determines whether pin21 acts as a reset pin or not.

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    • alowhumA alowhum

      Quick question: when programming the eByte module (or any module really):

      Should I select "reset enable or not? What does that do exactly?
      Should I select clock: "Crystal oscillator" for the eByte module?

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      wrote on last edited by NeverDie
      #1576

      @alowhum IIRC, the crystal oscillator is only required by Bluetooth. For everything else, the internal resonator is sufficient.

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        Thanks!

        I received two new eByte modules. I can't even connect to either one, both with BMP or ST-Link V2. Very strange. I'm going to try not powering them from the USB stick but from a second 3.3v source.

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        • alowhumA alowhum

          Thanks!

          I received two new eByte modules. I can't even connect to either one, both with BMP or ST-Link V2. Very strange. I'm going to try not powering them from the USB stick but from a second 3.3v source.

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          @alowhum did you manage to flash them?

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            @toyman No. I don't understand what's going on, as I was able to flash one succesfully before. I did find [this a bit unnerving].(https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/19943/nrf52832-unable-to-connect-to-the-target).

            Could it be that the EByte chips need the DCDC stuff before they can be connected to? Or that the exact moment on power-on (reset) matters?

            One thing I have found is that I had installed OpenOCD on my laptop to turn a ST-Link V2 into a Black Magic Probe. That version of OpenOCD was overruling the hacked version that Sandeep Mistry had created for the NRF5.

            But even with that removed, the problem remains this:

            "TARGET: nrf52.cpu - Not halted".

            Apparently this is a sign that the chips are protected. I was able to remove that protection before (by selecting "Burn Bootloader"), but it doesn't work now.

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              @alowhum did you manage to flash them?

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              @alowhum said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Could it be that the EByte chips need the DCDC stuff before they can be connected to?

              No.

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              • alowhumA alowhum

                @toyman No. I don't understand what's going on, as I was able to flash one succesfully before. I did find [this a bit unnerving].(https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/19943/nrf52832-unable-to-connect-to-the-target).

                Could it be that the EByte chips need the DCDC stuff before they can be connected to? Or that the exact moment on power-on (reset) matters?

                One thing I have found is that I had installed OpenOCD on my laptop to turn a ST-Link V2 into a Black Magic Probe. That version of OpenOCD was overruling the hacked version that Sandeep Mistry had created for the NRF5.

                But even with that removed, the problem remains this:

                "TARGET: nrf52.cpu - Not halted".

                Apparently this is a sign that the chips are protected. I was able to remove that protection before (by selecting "Burn Bootloader"), but it doesn't work now.

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                @alowhum have you tried the menu item to write softdevice ? If I remember well it will unlock the chip and after that you will be allowed to write code to it.

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                  Hey,

                  somehow I cant change the pins on my Ebyte module. Im trying to test with MockMysensors.
                  I want te TX set to pin nr. P0.06

                  I changed: MyBoardNRF.h and included nrf.h

                  #define PIN_SERIAL_RX (8)
                  #define PIN_SERIAL_TX (6)

                  but somehow the TX pin stays P0.25.

                  Can someone point me in the right direction?

                  The node connects to the gateway, so thats also working.

                  Seems like that if you put the MyBoardNRF5 files into the example map and you change some things in that file using the Arduino IDE, it doenst get uploaded. When I changed the MyBoardNRF5 file using Brackets it working as intended.

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                    @Nca78 Thanks, but it didn't work either :-(

                    Some notes from my adventures with the eByte module:

                    I've been playing with OpenOCD and the ST-Link v2. The ST-Link V2 that I turned into a Black Magic Probe doesn't see the modules.

                    I went into the Arduino's folder that has OpenOCD, created .cfg file, and then:

                    ./openocd -d2 -f nrf52832.cfg
                    

                    This started the OpenOCD server. Then I opened another terminal window and did

                    telnet localhost 4444
                    

                    Now I could manually issue some OpenOCD commands. The goal was to do a manual mass erase.

                    Some OpenOCD commands and their output:

                    flash probe 0                                                                 c Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                    
                    > flash banks
                    #0 : nrf52.flash (nrf51) at 0x00000000, size 0x00000000, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                    #1 : nrf52.uicr (nrf51) at 0x10001000, size 0x00000000, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                    
                    > flash probe 1
                    Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                    flash 'nrf51' found at 0x10001000
                    
                    > nrf51 mass_erase 0
                    Target not halted
                    

                    This command actually resulted in OpenOCD ballooning to 8Gb in ram. Then after 5 minutes of seemingly being busy, I got the 'target not halted' command.

                    > flash info 1
                    Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                    #1 : nrf51 at 0x10001000, size 0x00000100, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                    	#  0: 0x00000000 (0x100 0kB) not protected
                    Target not halted
                    error retrieving flash info
                    

                    Here is says "target not protected".

                    > nrf52.cpu curstate
                    reset
                    

                    Weird: the processor says it is in reset state? Could it be that it is not so much protected, but that it is constantly being reset? But then why is this with all the chips?

                    Once the OpenOCD server is running I also tried getting into the chip with

                    telnet localhost 3333
                    

                    But then I get "Error: attempted 'gdb' connection rejected"

                    The OpenOCD documentation mentions the chip protection:

                    Flash Driver: nrf5
                    All members of the nRF51 microcontroller families from Nordic Semiconductor include internal flash and use ARM Cortex-M0 core. Also, the nRF52832 microcontroller from Nordic Semiconductor, which include internal flash and use an ARM Cortex-M4F core.
                    flash bank $_FLASHNAME nrf5 0 0x00000000 0 0 $_TARGETNAME
                    Some nrf5-specific commands are defined:
                    Command: nrf5 mass_erase
                    Erases the contents of the code memory and user information configuration registers as well. It must be noted that this command works only for chips that do not have factory pre-programmed region 0 code.
                    http://www.openocd.org/doc/html/Flash-Commands.html

                    I also got out my voltmeter. Pin 21 and pin 25 have 3v on them, the rest don't.

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                      I have the same problem with brand news ebyte modeules.

                      Here are my openocd logs:

                      Open On-Chip Debugger 0.10.0-dev-gdc53227 (2016-04-09-13:45)
                      Licensed under GNU GPL v2
                      For bug reports, read
                      http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
                      debug_level: 2
                      0x4000
                      Info : The selected transport took over low-level target control. The results might differ compared to plain JTAG/SWD
                      adapter speed: 10000 kHz
                      Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                      Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                      Info : clock speed 4000 kHz
                      Info : STLINK v2 JTAG v17 API v2 SWIM v4 VID 0x0483 PID 0x3748
                      Info : using stlink api v2
                      Info : Target voltage: 3.241270
                      Info : nrf52.cpu: hardware has 0 breakpoints, 2 watchpoints
                      Error: timed out while waiting for target halted
                      TARGET: nrf52.cpu - Not halted
                      in procedure 'program'
                      in procedure 'reset' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 478
                      in procedure 'ocd_bouncer'

                      embedded:startup.tcl:454: Error: ** Unable to reset target **
                      in procedure 'program'
                      in procedure 'program_error' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 479
                      at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454
                      wybrany port szeregowy at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454
                      nie istnieje albo Twoja płytka nie jest podłączona

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                      • alowhumA alowhum

                        @Nca78 Thanks, but it didn't work either :-(

                        Some notes from my adventures with the eByte module:

                        I've been playing with OpenOCD and the ST-Link v2. The ST-Link V2 that I turned into a Black Magic Probe doesn't see the modules.

                        I went into the Arduino's folder that has OpenOCD, created .cfg file, and then:

                        ./openocd -d2 -f nrf52832.cfg
                        

                        This started the OpenOCD server. Then I opened another terminal window and did

                        telnet localhost 4444
                        

                        Now I could manually issue some OpenOCD commands. The goal was to do a manual mass erase.

                        Some OpenOCD commands and their output:

                        flash probe 0                                                                 c Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                        
                        > flash banks
                        #0 : nrf52.flash (nrf51) at 0x00000000, size 0x00000000, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                        #1 : nrf52.uicr (nrf51) at 0x10001000, size 0x00000000, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                        
                        > flash probe 1
                        Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                        flash 'nrf51' found at 0x10001000
                        
                        > nrf51 mass_erase 0
                        Target not halted
                        

                        This command actually resulted in OpenOCD ballooning to 8Gb in ram. Then after 5 minutes of seemingly being busy, I got the 'target not halted' command.

                        > flash info 1
                        Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                        #1 : nrf51 at 0x10001000, size 0x00000100, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                        	#  0: 0x00000000 (0x100 0kB) not protected
                        Target not halted
                        error retrieving flash info
                        

                        Here is says "target not protected".

                        > nrf52.cpu curstate
                        reset
                        

                        Weird: the processor says it is in reset state? Could it be that it is not so much protected, but that it is constantly being reset? But then why is this with all the chips?

                        Once the OpenOCD server is running I also tried getting into the chip with

                        telnet localhost 3333
                        

                        But then I get "Error: attempted 'gdb' connection rejected"

                        The OpenOCD documentation mentions the chip protection:

                        Flash Driver: nrf5
                        All members of the nRF51 microcontroller families from Nordic Semiconductor include internal flash and use ARM Cortex-M0 core. Also, the nRF52832 microcontroller from Nordic Semiconductor, which include internal flash and use an ARM Cortex-M4F core.
                        flash bank $_FLASHNAME nrf5 0 0x00000000 0 0 $_TARGETNAME
                        Some nrf5-specific commands are defined:
                        Command: nrf5 mass_erase
                        Erases the contents of the code memory and user information configuration registers as well. It must be noted that this command works only for chips that do not have factory pre-programmed region 0 code.
                        http://www.openocd.org/doc/html/Flash-Commands.html

                        I also got out my voltmeter. Pin 21 and pin 25 have 3v on them, the rest don't.

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                        @alowhum I'm not in sync with the whole thread , but I had similar issues when I had an FTDI adapter connected with @NeverDie 's breakout.
                        As soon as I disconnected the DTR (reset) line the thing started to work!

                        Not sure if this is related to your issue, but it's worth a try.

                        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        • alowhumA alowhum

                          @Nca78 Thanks, but it didn't work either :-(

                          Some notes from my adventures with the eByte module:

                          I've been playing with OpenOCD and the ST-Link v2. The ST-Link V2 that I turned into a Black Magic Probe doesn't see the modules.

                          I went into the Arduino's folder that has OpenOCD, created .cfg file, and then:

                          ./openocd -d2 -f nrf52832.cfg
                          

                          This started the OpenOCD server. Then I opened another terminal window and did

                          telnet localhost 4444
                          

                          Now I could manually issue some OpenOCD commands. The goal was to do a manual mass erase.

                          Some OpenOCD commands and their output:

                          flash probe 0                                                                 c Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                          
                          > flash banks
                          #0 : nrf52.flash (nrf51) at 0x00000000, size 0x00000000, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                          #1 : nrf52.uicr (nrf51) at 0x10001000, size 0x00000000, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                          
                          > flash probe 1
                          Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                          flash 'nrf51' found at 0x10001000
                          
                          > nrf51 mass_erase 0
                          Target not halted
                          

                          This command actually resulted in OpenOCD ballooning to 8Gb in ram. Then after 5 minutes of seemingly being busy, I got the 'target not halted' command.

                          > flash info 1
                          Unknown device (HWID 0x00000000)
                          #1 : nrf51 at 0x10001000, size 0x00000100, buswidth 1, chipwidth 1
                          	#  0: 0x00000000 (0x100 0kB) not protected
                          Target not halted
                          error retrieving flash info
                          

                          Here is says "target not protected".

                          > nrf52.cpu curstate
                          reset
                          

                          Weird: the processor says it is in reset state? Could it be that it is not so much protected, but that it is constantly being reset? But then why is this with all the chips?

                          Once the OpenOCD server is running I also tried getting into the chip with

                          telnet localhost 3333
                          

                          But then I get "Error: attempted 'gdb' connection rejected"

                          The OpenOCD documentation mentions the chip protection:

                          Flash Driver: nrf5
                          All members of the nRF51 microcontroller families from Nordic Semiconductor include internal flash and use ARM Cortex-M0 core. Also, the nRF52832 microcontroller from Nordic Semiconductor, which include internal flash and use an ARM Cortex-M4F core.
                          flash bank $_FLASHNAME nrf5 0 0x00000000 0 0 $_TARGETNAME
                          Some nrf5-specific commands are defined:
                          Command: nrf5 mass_erase
                          Erases the contents of the code memory and user information configuration registers as well. It must be noted that this command works only for chips that do not have factory pre-programmed region 0 code.
                          http://www.openocd.org/doc/html/Flash-Commands.html

                          I also got out my voltmeter. Pin 21 and pin 25 have 3v on them, the rest don't.

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                          #1586

                          @alowhum I intentionally asked you because I know the problem exists.
                          You need to erase the chip via Jlink Commander. Neither nrfjprog nor anything alse will work (AFAIK)
                          Actually, it was @NeverDie who found it in the beginning of his quest with nrf52. "The thing that started it all" (c)

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                            another method (although I haven't tried it with Ebyte) is to use BMP with GDB and issue a "erase mass" command

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                              Is there a way to enhance the sending performance of the Ebyte units?

                              I got a gateway that's sitting upstairs when I connect an Ebyte module I must be right underneath the gateway to let it receive packages.
                              When I do exactly the same same thing with an NRF52832-DK It doesn't matter where I'm standing, every message is received by the gateway.

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                                Is there a way to enhance the sending performance of the Ebyte units?

                                I got a gateway that's sitting upstairs when I connect an Ebyte module I must be right underneath the gateway to let it receive packages.
                                When I do exactly the same same thing with an NRF52832-DK It doesn't matter where I'm standing, every message is received by the gateway.

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                                #1589

                                @omemanti said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                Is there a way to enhance the sending performance of the Ebyte units?

                                @omemanti Maybe by using a properly tuned external antenna? At least for the built-in antenna's, the Fanstel modules seem to have more effective Tx reach than the Ebyte modules do. That's a major reason for my switch from the Ebyte's to the Fanstel's.

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                                  @omemanti said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  Is there a way to enhance the sending performance of the Ebyte units?

                                  @omemanti Maybe by using a properly tuned external antenna? At least for the built-in antenna's, the Fanstel modules seem to have more effective Tx reach than the Ebyte modules do. That's a major reason for my switch from the Ebyte's to the Fanstel's.

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                                  #1590

                                  @neverdie, I did some digging and cut a part of my PCB that was grounded. range drastically increased, guess I need to order a new prototype :)
                                  0_1524929354866_IMG_20180428_172244.jpg

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                                    @neverdie, I did some digging and cut a part of my PCB that was grounded. range drastically increased, guess I need to order a new prototype :)
                                    0_1524929354866_IMG_20180428_172244.jpg

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                                    Hero Member
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                                    @omemanti Ah, that makes sense. That's why on my PCB's I have the antenna portion of the module hanging over the edge of the PCB into empty space.

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                                      @omemanti Ah, that makes sense. That's why on my PCB's I have the antenna portion of the module hanging over the edge of the PCB into empty space.

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                                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      , that makes sense. That's why on my PCB's I have the antenna portion of the module hanging over the edge of the PCB into e

                                      yeah, next one will be a big hole in the middle, lets see how that will work out..

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                                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        , that makes sense. That's why on my PCB's I have the antenna portion of the module hanging over the edge of the PCB into e

                                        yeah, next one will be a big hole in the middle, lets see how that will work out..

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                                        Hardware Contributor
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                                        @omemanti said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        , that makes sense. That's why on my PCB's I have the antenna portion of the module hanging over the edge of the PCB into e

                                        yeah, next one will be a big hole in the middle, lets see how that will work out..

                                        Interesting board !
                                        But module in the middle is a bad idea, even with a big hole below the antenna it will affect performance to still have some PCB around
                                        For example here is an extract of the Fanstel BT832 module datasheet. It's not the same antenna design but it show having the antenna sticking out is the best solution, else you should but as close as possible to the edge and of course keep ground plane and traces as far as possible.
                                        0_1524939172574_bt832_antenna.jpg

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                                          @omemanti said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                          @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                          , that makes sense. That's why on my PCB's I have the antenna portion of the module hanging over the edge of the PCB into e

                                          yeah, next one will be a big hole in the middle, lets see how that will work out..

                                          Interesting board !
                                          But module in the middle is a bad idea, even with a big hole below the antenna it will affect performance to still have some PCB around
                                          For example here is an extract of the Fanstel BT832 module datasheet. It's not the same antenna design but it show having the antenna sticking out is the best solution, else you should but as close as possible to the edge and of course keep ground plane and traces as far as possible.
                                          0_1524939172574_bt832_antenna.jpg

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                                          @nca78 I'm trying to create a node that fits inside a standard wallsocket. (I'll post it when it's done) it got a motion and moisture sensor.

                                          For the next version I'm moving the module more to the outside but I need to take the screwholes into account.
                                          The groundplane I used filled the entire PCB, next one will have less ground around the antenna or even holes.

                                          It's designed to hold 3 AA batteries to have a couple years of service.

                                          0_1524940088510_IMG-20180425-WA0013.jpeg

                                          But cutting away that spot around the antenna gave me reception throughout the entire house

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