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    #1731

    After running through a gauntlet, I managed to get micropython running on the nRF52832-DK! I posted the firmware here: https://forum.micropython.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5343&p=30756#p30756 to spare anyone else from running the same gauntlet. Just copy the firmware.hex file directly to the nRF52832-DK drive on your PC, and it will upload automatically to the DK and start running micropython. )

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    • NeverDieN NeverDie

      After running through a gauntlet, I managed to get micropython running on the nRF52832-DK! I posted the firmware here: https://forum.micropython.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5343&p=30756#p30756 to spare anyone else from running the same gauntlet. Just copy the firmware.hex file directly to the nRF52832-DK drive on your PC, and it will upload automatically to the DK and start running micropython. )

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      @neverdie what are potential advantages of micropython?

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        @neverdie what are potential advantages of micropython?

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        @toyman OTA updates.

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @toyman OTA updates.

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          @neverdie I am afraid it still relies on Softdevice

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            @neverdie I am afraid it still relies on Softdevice

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            #1735

            @toyman no, if your code is in python. So the deal is "just" to port mysensors to python.

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              @neverdie I am afraid it still relies on Softdevice

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              @toyman Micropython on the BBC micro:bit (which uses the nRF51822) has a Radio library that uses Nordic's proprietary radio modes and doesn't involve Bluetooth. I suppose the question is: what would be involved in getting it to run on the nRF52832 or the nRF52840. Seems like it would be substantially the same.

              Faiing that, if I can directly manipulate the radio registers from miropython as I can from C, then it shouldn't be too hard to get at least minimal radio capability up and running from within micropython.

              If I can get rudimentary radio communications working in micropython, then from there it should be easy to do OTA updates via REPL. I did some proof of concept to that effect on the micro:bit, but quickly ran out of memory--the micro:bit has only a total of 16K of RAM, so there's very little headroom to begin with. On the nRF52840, lack of RAM shouldn't be an issue.

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                @scalz hinted at it previously, but it looks like MyNewt OS might offer yet another way to do OTA updates. According to their posted information, it offers:

                A open-source Bluetooth 5.0 stack (both Host & Controller), NimBLE, that completely replaces the proprietary SoftDevice on Nordic chipsets. (https://github.com/apache/mynewt-core/blob/master/README.md)

                Apparentlly it runs on both the nRF52832 and the nRF52840.

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  @scalz hinted at it previously, but it looks like MyNewt OS might offer yet another way to do OTA updates. According to their posted information, it offers:

                  A open-source Bluetooth 5.0 stack (both Host & Controller), NimBLE, that completely replaces the proprietary SoftDevice on Nordic chipsets. (https://github.com/apache/mynewt-core/blob/master/README.md)

                  Apparentlly it runs on both the nRF52832 and the nRF52840.

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                  @neverdie
                  1737 posts and counting
                  Spend hours reading this. Amazing journey so far.

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                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                    @toyman Micropython on the BBC micro:bit (which uses the nRF51822) has a Radio library that uses Nordic's proprietary radio modes and doesn't involve Bluetooth. I suppose the question is: what would be involved in getting it to run on the nRF52832 or the nRF52840. Seems like it would be substantially the same.

                    Faiing that, if I can directly manipulate the radio registers from miropython as I can from C, then it shouldn't be too hard to get at least minimal radio capability up and running from within micropython.

                    If I can get rudimentary radio communications working in micropython, then from there it should be easy to do OTA updates via REPL. I did some proof of concept to that effect on the micro:bit, but quickly ran out of memory--the micro:bit has only a total of 16K of RAM, so there's very little headroom to begin with. On the nRF52840, lack of RAM shouldn't be an issue.

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                    @neverdie There are three ways to manipulate registers directly from Micropython:

                    1. Use machine.mem16

                    2. Use the decorator @micropython_viper
                      The Viper code emitter implements integer types and pointers, allowing to access memory and registers directly.

                    3. Use the decorator @micropython.asm_thumb
                      Write your code in ARM assembler.

                    Problem: I don't know whether any of this is already implemented and works reliably in Micropython for nRF.

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                      @neverdie
                      1737 posts and counting
                      Spend hours reading this. Amazing journey so far.

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                      @speechsupply this thread is golden. I was so empowered that was able to easily switch to nRF SDK and to start producing (semi) commercial BLE-ANT device

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                        @speechsupply this thread is golden. I was so empowered that was able to easily switch to nRF SDK and to start producing (semi) commercial BLE-ANT device

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                        @toyman
                        Yea, On monday I'll order a couple of nRF52840 EVAL boards. Any suggestion regarding what to get?
                        Looked at both the BMD-340-EVAL and ofcourse the NRF52840-DK

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                        • U Uhrheber

                          @neverdie There are three ways to manipulate registers directly from Micropython:

                          1. Use machine.mem16

                          2. Use the decorator @micropython_viper
                            The Viper code emitter implements integer types and pointers, allowing to access memory and registers directly.

                          3. Use the decorator @micropython.asm_thumb
                            Write your code in ARM assembler.

                          Problem: I don't know whether any of this is already implemented and works reliably in Micropython for nRF.

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                          #1742

                          @uhrheber said in nRF5 action!:

                          @neverdie There are three ways to manipulate registers directly from Micropython:

                          1. Use machine.mem16

                          2. Use the decorator @micropython_viper
                            The Viper code emitter implements integer types and pointers, allowing to access memory and registers directly.

                          3. Use the decorator @micropython.asm_thumb
                            Write your code in ARM assembler.

                          Problem: I don't know whether any of this is already implemented and works reliably in Micropython for nRF.

                          Thanks! We finally nailed it all the way down on this thread here: https://forum.micropython.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5377

                          :smiley:

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                            #1743

                            I see somewhat strange behaviour when using millis() for intervals.

                            I'm not sure it's my mistake, but one thing is that it seems that the millis rollover is around; 131.068.570 (36 hours)

                            When the rollover happens, it looks like it interrupts my sleep. Does that make sense?

                            sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(PIR_Pin), CHANGE, LongSleep); 
                            

                            Debug lines => (Temp / RH - Millis)

                            21.44 / 61.15 - 130977952
                            21.43 / 61.16 - 131008158
                            21.42 / 61.15 - 131038364
                            21.44 / 61.14 - 131068570
                            I woke up because I saw movement at: 26576
                            Sleep Duration : -131042000  Im going back to sleep for 150000       
                            21.43 / 61.16 - 176822
                            
                            

                            20-10-2018 => its been ±36 hours laters, and he woke up again at the same moment.

                            18.57 / 56.88 - 131007553
                            18.56 / 56.86 - 131037759
                            18.58 / 56.85 - 131067965
                            I woke up because I saw movement at: 25971
                            Sleep duration : -131042000 => Rollover??
                            18.55 / 56.89 - 206423
                            18.53 / 56.89 - 236628
                            18.54 / 56.90 - 266834
                            18.55 / 56.89 - 297040
                            18.54 / 56.90 - 327246
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                            • M maciekczwa

                              I have the same problem with brand news ebyte modeules.

                              Here are my openocd logs:

                              Open On-Chip Debugger 0.10.0-dev-gdc53227 (2016-04-09-13:45)
                              Licensed under GNU GPL v2
                              For bug reports, read
                              http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
                              debug_level: 2
                              0x4000
                              Info : The selected transport took over low-level target control. The results might differ compared to plain JTAG/SWD
                              adapter speed: 10000 kHz
                              Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                              Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                              Info : clock speed 4000 kHz
                              Info : STLINK v2 JTAG v17 API v2 SWIM v4 VID 0x0483 PID 0x3748
                              Info : using stlink api v2
                              Info : Target voltage: 3.241270
                              Info : nrf52.cpu: hardware has 0 breakpoints, 2 watchpoints
                              Error: timed out while waiting for target halted
                              TARGET: nrf52.cpu - Not halted
                              in procedure 'program'
                              in procedure 'reset' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 478
                              in procedure 'ocd_bouncer'

                              embedded:startup.tcl:454: Error: ** Unable to reset target **
                              in procedure 'program'
                              in procedure 'program_error' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 479
                              at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454
                              wybrany port szeregowy at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454
                              nie istnieje albo Twoja płytka nie jest podłączona

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                              @maciekczwa said in nRF5 action!:

                              Licensed under GNU GPL v2
                              For bug reports, read
                              http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
                              debug_level: 2
                              0x4000
                              Info : The selected transport took over low-level target control. The results might differ compared to plain JTAG/SWD
                              adapter speed: 10000 kHz
                              Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                              Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                              Info : clock speed 4000 kHz
                              Info : STLINK v2 JTAG v17 API v2 SWIM v4 VID 0x0483 PID 0x3748
                              Info : using stlink api v2
                              Info : Target voltage: 3.241270
                              Info : nrf52.cpu: hardware has 0 breakpoints, 2 watchpoints
                              Error: timed out while waiting for target halted
                              TARGET: nrf52.cpu - Not halted
                              in procedure 'program'
                              in procedure 'reset' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 478
                              in procedure 'ocd_bouncer'

                              **embedded:startup.tcl:454: Error: ** Unable to reset target ****
                              in procedure 'program'
                              in procedure 'program_error' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 479
                              at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454
                              wybrany port szeregowy at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454

                              maybe someone else already found the solution, but it took me a while to figure it out for myself.

                              So for documentation sake:

                              Just had the exact same things with new Ebyte NRF52832 modules, ST-Link v2 couldn't erase it. (the old once did erase without a single problem )

                              After some digging, I found the following:
                              (I'm using my NRF52832-DK for it, maybe other devices work as well, just tested this one)

                              DK => Ebyte module
                              GND(detect) => GND
                              SWDIO => SWDIO
                              SWDCLK => SWCLK
                              VTG => 3,3V
                              3,3V => 3,3V
                              GND =>GND

                              you can erase the protection using nRFgo Studio

                              1. On the left, you can find a header named Segger, click on that.
                              2. then it shows that it is locked, and you can click recover.
                              3. after that you can erase it
                              4. upload a new sketch using an ST-link V2 or the DK while you are still at it.

                              0_1540825164917_f8695040-bd25-422c-9f43-49e1d762c29d-image.png

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                              • alowhumA alowhum

                                This looks like an Arduino-nano/pro-mini style device with an NRF51:

                                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nrf51822-LIS3DH-Bluetooth-Module-CJMCU-8223-Bluetooth-acceleration-module/32821873481.html

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                                @alowhum said in nRF5 action!:

                                This looks like an Arduino-nano/pro-mini style device with an NRF51:

                                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nrf51822-LIS3DH-Bluetooth-Module-CJMCU-8223-Bluetooth-acceleration-module/32821873481.html

                                I tried uploading a simple blink sketch today. I found some code on github which suggested pin 23 and 24 are LED pins.

                                I got an error uploading via STM32 though.

                                debug_level: 2
                                0x4000
                                Info : The selected transport took over low-level target control. The results might differ compared to plain JTAG/SWD
                                adapter speed: 10000 kHz
                                Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                                Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                                Info : clock speed 4000 kHz
                                Info : STLINK v2 JTAG v17 API v2 SWIM v4 VID 0x0483 PID 0x3748
                                Info : using stlink api v2
                                Info : Target voltage: 3.233552
                                Warn : UNEXPECTED idcode: 0x0bb11477
                                Error: expected 1 of 1: 0x2ba01477

                                in procedure 'program'
                                in procedure 'init' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 473
                                in procedure 'ocd_bouncer'
                                ** OpenOCD init failed **
                                shutdown command invoked

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                                • O Omemanti

                                  @maciekczwa said in nRF5 action!:

                                  Licensed under GNU GPL v2
                                  For bug reports, read
                                  http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
                                  debug_level: 2
                                  0x4000
                                  Info : The selected transport took over low-level target control. The results might differ compared to plain JTAG/SWD
                                  adapter speed: 10000 kHz
                                  Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                                  Info : Unable to match requested speed 10000 kHz, using 4000 kHz
                                  Info : clock speed 4000 kHz
                                  Info : STLINK v2 JTAG v17 API v2 SWIM v4 VID 0x0483 PID 0x3748
                                  Info : using stlink api v2
                                  Info : Target voltage: 3.241270
                                  Info : nrf52.cpu: hardware has 0 breakpoints, 2 watchpoints
                                  Error: timed out while waiting for target halted
                                  TARGET: nrf52.cpu - Not halted
                                  in procedure 'program'
                                  in procedure 'reset' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 478
                                  in procedure 'ocd_bouncer'

                                  **embedded:startup.tcl:454: Error: ** Unable to reset target ****
                                  in procedure 'program'
                                  in procedure 'program_error' called at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 479
                                  at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454
                                  wybrany port szeregowy at file "embedded:startup.tcl", line 454

                                  maybe someone else already found the solution, but it took me a while to figure it out for myself.

                                  So for documentation sake:

                                  Just had the exact same things with new Ebyte NRF52832 modules, ST-Link v2 couldn't erase it. (the old once did erase without a single problem )

                                  After some digging, I found the following:
                                  (I'm using my NRF52832-DK for it, maybe other devices work as well, just tested this one)

                                  DK => Ebyte module
                                  GND(detect) => GND
                                  SWDIO => SWDIO
                                  SWDCLK => SWCLK
                                  VTG => 3,3V
                                  3,3V => 3,3V
                                  GND =>GND

                                  you can erase the protection using nRFgo Studio

                                  1. On the left, you can find a header named Segger, click on that.
                                  2. then it shows that it is locked, and you can click recover.
                                  3. after that you can erase it
                                  4. upload a new sketch using an ST-link V2 or the DK while you are still at it.

                                  0_1540825164917_f8695040-bd25-422c-9f43-49e1d762c29d-image.png

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                                  @omemanti actually, all you need is to issue the following command:
                                  nrfjprog.exe --recover

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                                    @omemanti actually, all you need is to issue the following command:
                                    nrfjprog.exe --recover

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                                    @toyman yup, I tried that one, but all it kept saying was something like; can't find programmer.. and this method, which has a GUI, worked without incident :)

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                                      @toyman yup, I tried that one, but all it kept saying was something like; can't find programmer.. and this method, which has a GUI, worked without incident :)

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                                      @omemanti that's strange, I use the methos regularly and it worls fine.
                                      Oh! Actually, sandeep's installation messes up Jlink drivers so they require reinstall for the method to work.
                                      That's why I am using arduino nrf5 with BMP to completely separate Arduino from Jlink

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                                        FYI, I'm switching from uPython over to uLisp. It already worked on the BBC:microbit, and I just now got uLisp working on the nRF52832. Because uLisp relies on Sandeep's library, it doesn't yet support the nRF52840. However, if/when Sandeep's library does support the nRF52840, the uLisp upgrade will be fairly easy.

                                        http://www.ulisp.com/

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          FYI, I'm switching from uPython over to uLisp. It already worked on the BBC:microbit, and I just now got uLisp working on the nRF52832. Because uLisp relies on Sandeep's library, it doesn't yet support the nRF52840. However, if/when Sandeep's library does support the nRF52840, the uLisp upgrade will be fairly easy.

                                          http://www.ulisp.com/

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                                          @neverdie said in nRF5 action!:

                                          FYI, I'm switching from uPython over to uLisp.

                                          What is the reason for this switch ?

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