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  • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

    @axillent Very impressive! What is the total cost of the components involved?

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    @bjornhallberg it is hard to say
    the BOM is simple and short
    but the cost of a single component is dramatically depends on how many your purchase in a single order
    for example atmega328 purchased in 10pcs will be US1.2 pcs while a single pcs will costs US3-4

    If it will be an interest I think in production this PCB can cost retail US8-12

    sense and drive

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    • axillentA axillent

      @bjornhallberg it is hard to say
      the BOM is simple and short
      but the cost of a single component is dramatically depends on how many your purchase in a single order
      for example atmega328 purchased in 10pcs will be US1.2 pcs while a single pcs will costs US3-4

      If it will be an interest I think in production this PCB can cost retail US8-12

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      @axillent
      very very cool!!

      Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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        Impressive!

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          made two more with modified box - it is a bit wider to hold DHT sensor inside
          I made a new sketch as a combination of Dalas example and DHT. This new sketch able to detect automatically connected sensors and work according to detection.

          One problem I've got. I cannot get DHT working from AC plug. It is working fine been powered from DC and failed during startup been powered from AC :( The most probably the reason is high pulsation (up to 440mV) coming from the supply based on SR10 chip.
          Dalas is fine with this but not DHT. Probably some code inside the library holds.

          Had to mark each sensor with radio channel because they will work with different gateways
          IMG_2144.JPG

          sense and drive

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            really cool :) what are u using to convert the AC-DC ? how u doing it ?

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            • S sharath krishna

              really cool :) what are u using to convert the AC-DC ? how u doing it ?

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              @sharath-krishna thanks

              yearly in this thread you can find a schematics.
              I'm using here SR10. Many alternatives were discussed here http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/687/230v-power-supply-to-arduino

              I've found a solution to my problem with DHT. I put delay(500) at the beginning of setup().
              This is needed to stabilize DC before initializing DHT.
              Alternatively a 4.7uF capacitor can be connected between RESET and GND

              sense and drive

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                This is my combined sketch with automatic detection of connected many DS18B20 and DHT11/22

                #define RADIO_CHANNEL		76
                
                #define DS18B20_PIN			A0
                #define DS18B20_MAX_SENSORS	8
                #define DHT_PIN				A5
                #define LED_PIN				5
                #define SLEEP_TIME_SEC		60
                
                #include <avr/wdt.h>
                #include <avr/interrupt.h>
                #include <avr/sleep.h>
                
                #include <MySensor.h>
                #include <SPI.h>
                #include <DallasTemperature.h>
                #include <OneWire.h>
                #include <DHT.h>
                
                // DS18B20
                OneWire oneWire(DS18B20_PIN);
                DallasTemperature	sensors(&oneWire);
                
                MyMessage msgHum(0, V_HUM);
                MyMessage msgTemp(0, V_TEMP);
                
                struct {
                	struct {
                		uint8_t	count;
                		float	lastTemperature[DS18B20_MAX_SENSORS];	
                	} ds18b20;
                	struct {
                		DHT		sensor;
                		uint8_t	count;
                		float lastTemp;
                		float lastHum;
                	} dht;
                	MySensor gw;
                } var;
                
                ISR(WDT_vect) {
                }
                
                void setup()
                {
                	wdt_disable();
                	//delay(500);
                
                	pinMode(LED_PIN, OUTPUT);
                	digitalWrite(LED_PIN, HIGH);
                
                	// init mysensors
                	var.gw.begin(NULL, AUTO, false, AUTO, RF24_PA_LEVEL,RADIO_CHANNEL);
                
                	// init dalas
                	sensors.begin();
                	var.ds18b20.count = sensors.getDeviceCount();
                	if(var.ds18b20.count > DS18B20_MAX_SENSORS) var.ds18b20.count = DS18B20_MAX_SENSORS;
                
                	// init dht
                	digitalWrite(LED_PIN, LOW);
                	var.dht.sensor.setup(DHT_PIN);
                	float temperature = var.dht.sensor.getTemperature();
                	var.dht.count = (isnan(temperature))?0:1; 
                
                	var.gw.sendSketchInfo("WallCombined", "1.0");
                
                	// present ds18b20
                	for (int i=0; i<var.ds18b20.count; i++) {
                		var.gw.present(i+2, S_TEMP);
                	}
                	if(var.dht.count) {
                		var.gw.present(0, S_HUM);
                		var.gw.present(1, S_TEMP);		
                	}
                	var.gw.debugPrint(PSTR("Init of combined sensor: %d ds18b20 sensors, %d dht sensors\n"), var.ds18b20.count, var.dht.count);
                	for(int i=0; i < var.ds18b20.count + var.dht.count; i++) {
                		digitalWrite(LED_PIN, LOW);
                		delay(500);
                		digitalWrite(LED_PIN, HIGH);
                		delay(1000);
                	}
                }
                
                void loop()
                {
                	// Process incoming messages (like config from server)
                	var.gw.process();
                
                	// Fetch temperatures from Dallas sensors
                	if(var.ds18b20.count) sensors.requestTemperatures();
                
                	// Read temperatures and send them to controller
                	for (int i=0; i<var.ds18b20.count; i++) {
                  
                		// Fetch and round temperature to one decimal
                		float temperature = static_cast<float>(static_cast<int>((var.gw.getConfig().isMetric?sensors.getTempCByIndex(i):sensors.getTempFByIndex(i)) * 10.)) / 10.;
                  
                		// Only send data if temperature has changed and no error
                		if (var.ds18b20.lastTemperature[i] != temperature && temperature != -127.00) {
                	  
                			// Send in the new temperature
                			var.gw.send(msgTemp.setSensor(i+2).set(temperature,1));
                			var.ds18b20.lastTemperature[i]=temperature;
                		}
                	}
                
                	if(var.dht.count) {
                		boolean metric = var.gw.getConfig().isMetric;
                		float temperature = var.dht.sensor.getTemperature();
                	
                		if (isnan(temperature)) {
                			var.gw.debugPrint(PSTR("Failed reading temperature from DHT\n"));
                		} else if (temperature != var.dht.lastTemp) {
                			var.dht.lastTemp = temperature;
                			if (!metric) {
                				temperature = var.dht.sensor.toFahrenheit(temperature);
                			}
                			var.gw.send(msgTemp.setSensor(1).set(temperature, 1));
                		}
                
                		float humidity = var.dht.sensor.getHumidity();
                		if (isnan(humidity)) {
                			var.gw.debugPrint(PSTR("Failed reading humidity from DHT"));
                		} else if (humidity != var.dht.lastHum) {
                			var.dht.lastHum = humidity;
                			var.gw.send(msgHum.setSensor(0).set(humidity, 1));
                		}
                	}
                
                	digitalWrite(LED_PIN, HIGH);
                	delay(5000);
                	digitalWrite(LED_PIN, LOW);
                	delay(500);
                
                	// sleep
                	Serial.flush();
                	var.gw.powerDown();
                
                	for(int wdt_count=SLEEP_TIME_SEC; wdt_count > 0; wdt_count--) {
                		wdt_enable(WDTO_1S);
                		WDTCSR |= (1 << WDIE);
                		set_sleep_mode(SLEEP_MODE_PWR_DOWN);
                		sleep_enable();
                		sei();
                		sleep_cpu();
                		sleep_disable();
                	}
                
                	wdt_disable();
                }
                

                sense and drive

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                  3D models are published here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:688442

                  sense and drive

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                  • axillentA axillent

                    3D models are published here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:688442

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                    @axillent said:

                    3D models are published here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:688442

                    nice job

                    can you tell us what kind of 3D printer you are using, and if you are happy with it.

                    I have a lot of electronics, and not a lot of housings.... I'm thinking about jumping in!

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                    • BulldogLowellB BulldogLowell

                      @axillent said:

                      3D models are published here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:688442

                      nice job

                      can you tell us what kind of 3D printer you are using, and if you are happy with it.

                      I have a lot of electronics, and not a lot of housings.... I'm thinking about jumping in!

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                      @BulldogLowell I'm using Makerbot Replicator 2 for more than 2 years

                      I have nothing to compare with. But it gives the possibilities I never have.
                      From hardware side I had to fix some problems Replicator 2 is having. New models I hope is more sufficient.
                      Makerbot is progressing, at least an improvement on software side is essential.

                      Today you will find many brands and many models to choose from.

                      sense and drive

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                      • S sharath krishna

                        really cool :) what are u using to convert the AC-DC ? how u doing it ?

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                        @axillent How do you upload the sketch? Do you solder in a preprogrammed atmega or are there connectors on the board? The DHT needs only 1.5 mA. Wouldn't it be possible to supply this with an digital out pin of the atmega? This way you could delay the power up process.

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                          Just a fair warning for anyone considering a new ("5th generation") Makerbot Replicator. Check up on some reviews before getting one. Things have apparently gone downhill since the good old days. Extruders don't last as long etc. If anyone is willing to pay the sort of price that Makerbot is asking there are better alternatives.
                          http://nicklievendag.com/makerbot-replicator-5th-generation-review/

                          Also, the Makerbot software is painfully slow compared to most alternatives.
                          http://nicklievendag.com/simplify3d-vs-makerbot-desktop/
                          http://www.fabbaloo.com/blog/2014/7/20/hands-on-with-simplify3d
                          Not that I endorse Simplify3D. There are free / open-source alternatives that are just as fast.

                          Finally, I'm skeptical about the legal details surrounding Thingiverse.

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                            @axillent How do you upload the sketch? Do you solder in a preprogrammed atmega or are there connectors on the board? The DHT needs only 1.5 mA. Wouldn't it be possible to supply this with an digital out pin of the atmega? This way you could delay the power up process.

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                            @Jan-Gatzke originally a pre-loaded MCU were soldered but later I solder on top of the PCB a 6 pin ISP connectors
                            There is no need to source DHT from the MCU pin, it is simple to put delay at the beginning of setup or use highest startup time by fuses (my choice)

                            the original idea is to use pogopin connector, but I've just ordered them and not yet received. I need a very small footprint ISP connector for Mysensors devices

                            @bjornhallberg said:

                            Just a fair warning for anyone considering a new ("5th generation") Makerbot Replicator. Check up on some reviews before getting one.

                            have no experience with 5th generation but fully agree with you that there are many alternatives

                            Also, the Makerbot software is painfully slow compared to most alternatives.

                            it is not true. I'm very satisfied with the performance of the software.
                            I do not believe that someone can be faster than instantaneous

                            Finally, I'm skeptical about the legal details surrounding Thingiverse.

                            what kind of issues?

                            sense and drive

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                            • axillentA axillent

                              @Jan-Gatzke originally a pre-loaded MCU were soldered but later I solder on top of the PCB a 6 pin ISP connectors
                              There is no need to source DHT from the MCU pin, it is simple to put delay at the beginning of setup or use highest startup time by fuses (my choice)

                              the original idea is to use pogopin connector, but I've just ordered them and not yet received. I need a very small footprint ISP connector for Mysensors devices

                              @bjornhallberg said:

                              Just a fair warning for anyone considering a new ("5th generation") Makerbot Replicator. Check up on some reviews before getting one.

                              have no experience with 5th generation but fully agree with you that there are many alternatives

                              Also, the Makerbot software is painfully slow compared to most alternatives.

                              it is not true. I'm very satisfied with the performance of the software.
                              I do not believe that someone can be faster than instantaneous

                              Finally, I'm skeptical about the legal details surrounding Thingiverse.

                              what kind of issues?

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                              @axillent said:

                              Also, the Makerbot software is painfully slow compared to most alternatives.

                              it is not true. I'm very satisfied with the performance of the software.
                              I do not believe that someone can be faster than instantaneous

                              I meant slicing speeds on very complex models specifically. But it would not surprise me if the print quality / toolpaths created are better with competing software as well.

                              Finally, I'm skeptical about the legal details surrounding Thingiverse.

                              what kind of issues?

                              Like Facebook and other big corporations where they basically own the data you upload and store on their servers.

                              Oh, also, bonus points to Makerbot / Stratasys for actually stealing technology and incorporating it into their own designs:
                              http://3dprintingindustry.com/2014/05/28/makerbot-become-takerbot/

                              Bottom line, your Replicator 2 is in many ways better than the current line-up from Makerbot. Mostly because the extruder will last you many thousands of hours and not just 200-500 or whatever they guarantee these days when people come complaining.

                              The biggest joke is perhaps their massive Z18 printer, which costs a fortune, puts out dismal results (at least without a ton of tweaking if at all possible), can't handle ABS and is really slow. Plus having the same lousy extruder. I mean, 200 hours on the Z18 could translate into just 10 reasonably big print jobs. They actually got one at my local Makerspace. :dizzy_face: They could have gotten two ordinary printers for the price of that one ...

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                                @axillent said:

                                Also, the Makerbot software is painfully slow compared to most alternatives.

                                it is not true. I'm very satisfied with the performance of the software.
                                I do not believe that someone can be faster than instantaneous

                                I meant slicing speeds on very complex models specifically. But it would not surprise me if the print quality / toolpaths created are better with competing software as well.

                                Finally, I'm skeptical about the legal details surrounding Thingiverse.

                                what kind of issues?

                                Like Facebook and other big corporations where they basically own the data you upload and store on their servers.

                                Oh, also, bonus points to Makerbot / Stratasys for actually stealing technology and incorporating it into their own designs:
                                http://3dprintingindustry.com/2014/05/28/makerbot-become-takerbot/

                                Bottom line, your Replicator 2 is in many ways better than the current line-up from Makerbot. Mostly because the extruder will last you many thousands of hours and not just 200-500 or whatever they guarantee these days when people come complaining.

                                The biggest joke is perhaps their massive Z18 printer, which costs a fortune, puts out dismal results (at least without a ton of tweaking if at all possible), can't handle ABS and is really slow. Plus having the same lousy extruder. I mean, 200 hours on the Z18 could translate into just 10 reasonably big print jobs. They actually got one at my local Makerspace. :dizzy_face: They could have gotten two ordinary printers for the price of that one ...

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                                @bjornhallberg bad to know that new models are worse

                                actually had no plans to upgrade. For the nearest feature I'm fine with Repl2.
                                it is also important that I made a required tuning and able to recover many things by myself
                                already have an experience and know what to expect

                                I do not think my models complicated but the slicing speed was improved by handred times in the first year of the purchase
                                today i have to wait almost none before printing starts

                                what is even more important - raft support was improved revolutionary. Before it was sucks to print surface on the raft - it became ugly and unacceptable as a from panel. Now all are very different

                                sense and drive

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                                  Great project axillent +1

                                  -= GreetingZzz and may the sensors be with you =-

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                                    Great project axillent +1

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                                    @Johnny-B-Good thanks!

                                    sense and drive

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                                      @Johnny-B-Good thanks!

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                                      @axillent

                                      very nice

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                                      • J Jan Gatzke

                                        @axillent How do you upload the sketch? Do you solder in a preprogrammed atmega or are there connectors on the board? The DHT needs only 1.5 mA. Wouldn't it be possible to supply this with an digital out pin of the atmega? This way you could delay the power up process.

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                                        @Jan-Gatzke said:

                                        @axillent How do you upload the sketch?

                                        do you mean a .zip file or the inline source?
                                        for inline I have to add leading spaces to all lines (it is simple to to in Atmel Studio) and than just past it here

                                        sense and drive

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                                          @axillent i wanted some more information along with the schematics.. like the wattage of the resistors used and also the type and voltage rating of the capacitors . Please could you provide the same ?

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