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  • epierreE epierre

    so my 5000mAh lasted outside... 4 days... btw I didn't remove all leds from the comparator that could be an improvement and the outside weather is quite cold.

    I had a reading every 30 secs, way to quick surely...

    @hek is there a way to power the radio only when necessary ? I guess the gw.sleep could be a gw.sleep and a gw.wakeup and manage the delay outside ?

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    @epierre

    gw.sleep() sleeps the radio as well. What do you mean by power down radio? Like cutting power using digital pin?

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      @epierre

      gw.sleep() sleeps the radio as well. What do you mean by power down radio? Like cutting power using digital pin?

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      @hek said:

      @epierre

      gw.sleep() sleeps the radio as well. What do you mean by power down radio? Like cutting power using digital pin?
      yes, now you combine sleep for the radio and delay, what I mean is to have loop() run without radio, and if a transmission is needed to have a command that power it.

      If you have a long dry period, a device on battery will consume a lot of power having the radion on and off, if it is always off until a sensor finds something, that would save more power, no ?

      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        Wake only on interrupt?

        RJ_Make

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          In my idea, a value above 0 would mean sending the info, an interrupt could be generated this way ?

          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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            Hey,
            I am a newbie (in the forum) and in the arduino/sensors development. I bought the Leaf Wetness from cooking-hacks.com. Can I connected it to my Arduino via Analog input? Is it easy?

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            • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

              Hey,
              I am a newbie (in the forum) and in the arduino/sensors development. I bought the Leaf Wetness from cooking-hacks.com. Can I connected it to my Arduino via Analog input? Is it easy?

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              @elisavetgrig Welcome to the forum. The answer is yes to both questions. Given that the sensor is a resistive element, you need to build a voltage divider. Google "voltage divider" Arduino and you'll find lots of examples.

              Cheers
              Al

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                Measuring the current with DC doesn't seem to be the ideal solution:
                thread

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                • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

                  Measuring the current with DC doesn't seem to be the ideal solution:
                  thread

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                  @FotoFieber That thread is regarding soil moisture measurements which is different than leaf wetness. For soil, capacitive is the best way to go IMHO.

                  Cheers
                  Al

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                    AC Statement ☺

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                      ok...Thank you... I will try the "voltage divider" and I will see what will happen!

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                        #29

                        assembly.jpg

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                          Did you mean something like the figure above? Or I only need to connect one resistor to one wire and the other wire to another pin in the Arduino?

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                          • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

                            Did you mean something like the figure above? Or I only need to connect one resistor to one wire and the other wire to another pin in the Arduino?

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                            @elisavetgrig You're missing the connections to a voltage source and ground. You also only need one resistor as the wetness sensor is the 2nd resistor in the voltage divider circuit. Take a look at this: http://homepage.cs.uri.edu/faculty/hamel/workshops/as220-sept-09/sensors-voltage-dividers.html.

                            Cheers
                            Al

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                              You are right! I thought that I missing something... always there are Data connection, VCC connection and GND.. and I had only one! I made another dummy scheme... Is that better?leaf wetness.jpg

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                              • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

                                You are right! I thought that I missing something... always there are Data connection, VCC connection and GND.. and I had only one! I made another dummy scheme... Is that better?leaf wetness.jpg

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                                @elisavetgrig Take a look at the second diagram of the link I posted. Right now you show the GND pin connected to the Analog pin and Vcc is also connected to the same spot, so that's not going to work.

                                Cheers
                                Al

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                                  I based in the second diagram... i think that I understand it... resistorss-leaf wet.png

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                                  • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

                                    I based in the second diagram... i think that I understand it... resistorss-leaf wet.png

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                                    @elisavetgrig As I mentioned a few posts ago and how it's shown in the diagram on that link, is that you only need one resistor. The leaf wetness sensor becomes the other resistor in the circuit. In your last diagram, you have both the terminals of the wetness sensor connected to ground. Think of the wetness sensor as a resistor, with each of the terminals representing one leg of a regular resistor.

                                    Cheers
                                    Al

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                                      OK... So I need only one resister... I think that "Scheme 2" is closer to the solution... images ofs.jpg

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                                        @epierre how is the gold plating holding out on the sensor?
                                        Is there pitting and would you'd recommend this over the style in the store?
                                        How is the battery life with this setup?

                                        Thanks

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                                          Hello,

                                          gold plating is a must have for outdoor.

                                          I am now regarding to have something more robust in time , I'm waiting for a light with movement with solar pannel to modify it for it.

                                          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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