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  • epierreE Offline
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    epierre
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    #22

    In my idea, a value above 0 would mean sending the info, an interrupt could be generated this way ?

    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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      #23

      Hey,
      I am a newbie (in the forum) and in the arduino/sensors development. I bought the Leaf Wetness from cooking-hacks.com. Can I connected it to my Arduino via Analog input? Is it easy?

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      • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

        Hey,
        I am a newbie (in the forum) and in the arduino/sensors development. I bought the Leaf Wetness from cooking-hacks.com. Can I connected it to my Arduino via Analog input? Is it easy?

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        Sparkman
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        #24

        @elisavetgrig Welcome to the forum. The answer is yes to both questions. Given that the sensor is a resistive element, you need to build a voltage divider. Google "voltage divider" Arduino and you'll find lots of examples.

        Cheers
        Al

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          #25

          Measuring the current with DC doesn't seem to be the ideal solution:
          thread

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          • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

            Measuring the current with DC doesn't seem to be the ideal solution:
            thread

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            Sparkman
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            #26

            @FotoFieber That thread is regarding soil moisture measurements which is different than leaf wetness. For soil, capacitive is the best way to go IMHO.

            Cheers
            Al

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              #27

              AC Statement ☺

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              • elisavetgrigE Offline
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                #28

                ok...Thank you... I will try the "voltage divider" and I will see what will happen!

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                • elisavetgrigE Offline
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                  #29

                  assembly.jpg

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                  • elisavetgrigE Offline
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                    #30

                    Did you mean something like the figure above? Or I only need to connect one resistor to one wire and the other wire to another pin in the Arduino?

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                    • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

                      Did you mean something like the figure above? Or I only need to connect one resistor to one wire and the other wire to another pin in the Arduino?

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                      @elisavetgrig You're missing the connections to a voltage source and ground. You also only need one resistor as the wetness sensor is the 2nd resistor in the voltage divider circuit. Take a look at this: http://homepage.cs.uri.edu/faculty/hamel/workshops/as220-sept-09/sensors-voltage-dividers.html.

                      Cheers
                      Al

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                      • elisavetgrigE Offline
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                        #32

                        You are right! I thought that I missing something... always there are Data connection, VCC connection and GND.. and I had only one! I made another dummy scheme... Is that better?leaf wetness.jpg

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                        • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

                          You are right! I thought that I missing something... always there are Data connection, VCC connection and GND.. and I had only one! I made another dummy scheme... Is that better?leaf wetness.jpg

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                          Sparkman
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                          @elisavetgrig Take a look at the second diagram of the link I posted. Right now you show the GND pin connected to the Analog pin and Vcc is also connected to the same spot, so that's not going to work.

                          Cheers
                          Al

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                            I based in the second diagram... i think that I understand it... resistorss-leaf wet.png

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                            • elisavetgrigE elisavetgrig

                              I based in the second diagram... i think that I understand it... resistorss-leaf wet.png

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                              Sparkman
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                              @elisavetgrig As I mentioned a few posts ago and how it's shown in the diagram on that link, is that you only need one resistor. The leaf wetness sensor becomes the other resistor in the circuit. In your last diagram, you have both the terminals of the wetness sensor connected to ground. Think of the wetness sensor as a resistor, with each of the terminals representing one leg of a regular resistor.

                              Cheers
                              Al

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                                OK... So I need only one resister... I think that "Scheme 2" is closer to the solution... images ofs.jpg

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                                  #37

                                  @epierre how is the gold plating holding out on the sensor?
                                  Is there pitting and would you'd recommend this over the style in the store?
                                  How is the battery life with this setup?

                                  Thanks

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                                    Hello,

                                    gold plating is a must have for outdoor.

                                    I am now regarding to have something more robust in time , I'm waiting for a light with movement with solar pannel to modify it for it.

                                    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                      #39

                                      In the case described there is a constant battery drain when there is "wetness" (moisture) on the sensor. This also implies an electrolytic process which takes care of eroding your sensor. No matter if you use gold plating or not.

                                      electrolysis.jpg

                                      To avoid both you can supply the sensor during measurement only -and- reverse te polarity each time.

                                      An example ketch which takes care of measuring three moisture sensors which relies on this principle.

                                      (the actual measurement is in the "ReadMoistureValues()" routine)

                                      /*
                                       PROJECT: MySensors / Floor moisture sensor - measures moisture
                                       PROGRAMMER: AWI
                                       DATE: june 7, 2015/ last update: june 9, 2015
                                       FILE: AWI_FloorMoisture.ino
                                       LICENSE: Public domain
                                      
                                       Hardware: tbd .- ATmega328p board w/ NRF24l01
                                      	and MySensors 1.4
                                      
                                      	(later: Temp & Humidity - HTU21)
                                      	
                                      	
                                      Special:
                                      	program with Arduino Pro 3.3V 8Mhz
                                      	
                                      SUMMARY:
                                      	Moisture by analog read a polarity switching voltage divider between (high/ low)
                                       Remarks:
                                      	Fixed node-id
                                      */
                                      
                                      #include <SPI.h>
                                      #include <MySensor.h>
                                      #include <Wire.h> 								// I2C
                                      
                                      #define batteryVoltagePin A0
                                      #define MoistureHighPin 3
                                      #define MoistureLowPin 4
                                      #define Moisture1ReadPin A1
                                      #define Moisture2ReadPin A2
                                      #define Moisture3ReadPin A3
                                      #define BuzzerPin 5
                                      #define LedPin 6
                                      
                                      // MySensors Child ID's
                                      #define MOISTURE1_CHILD_ID 5					// Moisture 1
                                      #define MOISTURE2_CHILD_ID 6					// Moisture 2
                                      #define MOISTURE3_CHILD_ID 7					// Moisture 3
                                      // #define MOISTURE4_CHILD_ID 8					// Moisture 4
                                      
                                      // MySensors messages 
                                      MyMessage moisturePercentageMsg1(MOISTURE1_CHILD_ID, V_HUM);	// Percentage
                                      MyMessage moisturePercentageMsg2(MOISTURE2_CHILD_ID, V_HUM);	// Percentage
                                      MyMessage moisturePercentageMsg3(MOISTURE3_CHILD_ID, V_HUM);	// Percentage
                                      
                                      // MySensors instantiate 
                                      MySensor gw(9,10); 								// board, 3.3v (pin default 9,10)
                                      
                                      // Reference values for ADC and Battery measurements
                                      const float VccMin        = 1.0*3.5;    // Minimum expected Vcc level, in Volts. Example for 1 rechargeable lithium-ion.
                                      const float VccMax        = 1.0*4.2;    // Maximum expected Vcc level, in Volts. 
                                      float VccReference = 3.3 ;				// voltage reference for measurement (=vcc)
                                      unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 60000;  		//  10 sec sleep time between reads (seconds * 1000 milliseconds)
                                      
                                      // **** class for Moisture measurement *****
                                      // attaches an analog input to a data structure for measurements
                                      // 			measures % of full scale voltage and scales the range of actual values
                                      // 			stores current/ min & max values for the sensor
                                      class MoistureSense
                                      {
                                      public:
                                      	// Create an instance of MoistureSense and initialize (digital & input pin and reference values)
                                        MoistureSense(uint8_t ReadPin, int LowValue, int HighValue) ; 		// attach to pin and init
                                        void ReadHigh();								// Read moisture if positive
                                        void ReadLow();								// Read moisture with polarity inverted
                                        // average the low/ high readings ang get the moisture percent value
                                        uint8_t MoisturePercent();
                                        void ResetMinMax();							// reset min & max values
                                      
                                      protected:
                                        uint8_t _ReadPin ; 							// Hardware Analog Pin number
                                        int _CurMoisture, _MaxMoisture, _MinMoisture, _Low, _High, _HighValue, _LowValue ;
                                        uint8_t _curState; 
                                        };
                                      
                                      // to create an instance of MoistureSense and initialize (input pin and reference values)
                                      MoistureSense::MoistureSense(uint8_t ReadPin, int LowValue, int HighValue) {		// attach to pins and init
                                      	_ReadPin = ReadPin;
                                      	_LowValue = LowValue;
                                      	_HighValue = HighValue;
                                      	_CurMoisture = _MaxMoisture = _MinMoisture = NULL ;	// min & max in percent
                                        }
                                      void MoistureSense::ReadHigh()
                                       // Read moisture with high polarity (in relation to Gnd)
                                      {
                                      	_High = analogRead(_ReadPin);
                                      }
                                      void MoistureSense::ReadLow()
                                       // Read moisture with low polarity (in relation to Vcc)
                                      {
                                      	_Low = 1024 - analogRead(_ReadPin);
                                      }
                                      void MoistureSense::ResetMinMax()
                                       // Reset min & max values
                                      {
                                      	_MinMoisture = _MaxMoisture = _CurMoisture;
                                      }
                                      uint8_t MoistureSense::MoisturePercent()
                                      // average the low/ high readings ang get the moisture percent value
                                      {
                                      	uint8_t reading = constrain(map((_Low + _High)/2, _LowValue, _HighValue, 0, 100),0,100);	// average map to the 0-100% range
                                      	_MinMoisture = min(reading, _MinMoisture);	// set min and max values
                                      	_MaxMoisture = max(reading, _MaxMoisture);
                                      }
                                      
                                      // Instantiate moisture sensor objects
                                      MoistureSense Moisture1(Moisture1ReadPin, 0, 1024); 
                                      MoistureSense Moisture2(Moisture2ReadPin, 0, 1024); 
                                      MoistureSense Moisture3(Moisture3ReadPin, 0, 1024); 
                                      
                                      void setup(){
                                        	// MySensors setup (baud 115200)
                                      	gw.begin(NULL, 21);  // fixed node 21, (final: connected to repeater 3 (living))"
                                      	// Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                                      	gw.sendSketchInfo("AWI FloorMoisture 21", "1.0");
                                      	gw.present(MOISTURE1_CHILD_ID, S_HUM);			// Present Moisture sensors as humidity
                                      	gw.present(MOISTURE2_CHILD_ID, S_HUM);			// Present Moisture sensors as humidity
                                      	gw.present(MOISTURE3_CHILD_ID, S_HUM);			// Present Moisture sensors as humidity
                                      
                                      	Serial.print("AWI Moisture Started ");
                                      	pinMode(BuzzerPin,OUTPUT);						// Setup intermittent buzzer & light
                                      	pinMode(LedPin,OUTPUT);
                                      }
                                      
                                      void loop(){
                                      //
                                      	Serial.println("Moisture Percentages");
                                      	ReadMoistureValues();
                                      	gw.send(moisturePercentageMsg1.set(Moisture1.MoisturePercent())); // MySensors Send (V) 
                                      	gw.send(moisturePercentageMsg2.set(Moisture2.MoisturePercent())); // MySensors Send (V) 
                                      	gw.send(moisturePercentageMsg3.set(Moisture3.MoisturePercent())); // MySensors Send (V) 
                                      	gw.sendBatteryLevel(batteryPercentage());
                                      	// show local alarm if moisture > 20%
                                      	if ((Moisture1.MoisturePercent()>20) || (Moisture2.MoisturePercent()>20) || 
                                      		(Moisture3.MoisturePercent()>20) || (batteryPercentage() < 10))
                                      	{
                                      		MoistureAlarm();
                                      	}
                                      	gw.sleep(SLEEP_TIME);							// low power for sleep time
                                      }
                                      
                                      unsigned ReadMoistureValues()
                                      // read all moisturevalues
                                      {
                                      	pinMode(MoistureLowPin, OUTPUT);				// first set all pins to measurement(non floating) mode
                                      	pinMode(MoistureHighPin, OUTPUT);
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, LOW); 				// Set polarity on voltage divider high and read the values
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, HIGH); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	Moisture1.ReadLow(); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	Moisture2.ReadLow(); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	Moisture3.ReadLow(); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, HIGH);				// reverse polarity on voltage divider and read values
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, LOW); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	Moisture1.ReadHigh(); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	Moisture2.ReadHigh(); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	Moisture3.ReadHigh(); delayMicroseconds(100);
                                      	pinMode(MoistureLowPin, INPUT);					// reset pins to floating, to avoid power leakage
                                      	pinMode(MoistureHighPin, INPUT);
                                      	Serial.print("Moist1: ");
                                      	Serial.print(Moisture1.MoisturePercent());
                                      	Serial.print(" , Moist2: ");
                                      	Serial.print(Moisture2.MoisturePercent());
                                      	Serial.print(" , Moist3: ");
                                      	Serial.print(Moisture3.MoisturePercent());
                                      	Serial.println();
                                       }
                                      
                                      unsigned MoistureAlarm()
                                      // If moisturelevel to high, sound & show local alarm
                                      {
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, HIGH);
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, HIGH); 
                                      	delay(100);										// sound & light for 100ms, uses a lot of power, so no no need for power down
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, LOW);	
                                      	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, LOW);
                                      }
                                      
                                      // get Battery Voltage & charge current
                                      // assumes a balanced voltage divider on Battery and uses the Vcc as reference (3.3V in this case)
                                      // Parameters:
                                      // - VccMin = minimum battery voltage
                                      // - VccMax = maximum battery voltage
                                      // - VccReference = reference voltage for ADC
                                      uint8_t batteryPercentage()
                                      {
                                      	float batteryVoltage = ((float)analogRead(batteryVoltagePin)* VccReference/1024) * 2;	// actual voltage is double
                                      	Serial.print("Batt: ");
                                      	Serial.print(batteryVoltage);
                                      	Serial.print("V ; ");
                                      	return(constrain(map(batteryVoltage, VccMin, VccMax, 0, 100),0,100));	// and map to the 0-100% range
                                      }
                                      
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                                        This is a great idea to get less erosion!

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                                          @AWI your sketch has 3 sensors ? do you use a special wiring or you just get through high and low ?

                                          The sketch on soil humidity does this but with two pins to make kind of AC current, but it needs also some gypsum to protect the electrodes.

                                          . Leaf wetness is not immersed by nature hopefully ;-)

                                          z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                          rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                          mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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