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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    @toyman I guess I made an error then. Thanks for pointing that out. In general, I haven't gotten much feedback on the PCB's that I've posted, so any feedback is always appreciated. :)

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    #1481

    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

    @toyman I guess I made an error then. Thanks for pointing that out.

    I actually think you were correct in your design, @NeverDie ;-)

    A while ago part of the e73-2g4m04s schematic was posted on this forum:

    0_1521921760777_50a5af75-12b9-4d4e-b33b-b6a9645d88ae-image.png

    Clearly the inductors to use the DC/DC converter are not connected to DCC. There is however a capacitor C17 from DEC4 to GND.

    The Nordic reference schematic shows the missing L2 and L3, but capacitor C10 is actually present in the e73-2g4m04s (the mentioned C17, albeit only 100nF instead of 1.0uF in the reference):

    0_1521921849048_cdb5eb86-ea5e-4392-b3a7-2e3d4c4a92f0-image.png

    Therefore I think your breakout is correct, as only the inductors between DCC and DEC4 need to be added to match the reference schematic :+1:

    0_1521922345076_889e8f1b-b94f-4c8c-aa8b-2c0d341fae1c-image.png

    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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    • YveauxY Yveaux

      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @toyman I guess I made an error then. Thanks for pointing that out.

      I actually think you were correct in your design, @NeverDie ;-)

      A while ago part of the e73-2g4m04s schematic was posted on this forum:

      0_1521921760777_50a5af75-12b9-4d4e-b33b-b6a9645d88ae-image.png

      Clearly the inductors to use the DC/DC converter are not connected to DCC. There is however a capacitor C17 from DEC4 to GND.

      The Nordic reference schematic shows the missing L2 and L3, but capacitor C10 is actually present in the e73-2g4m04s (the mentioned C17, albeit only 100nF instead of 1.0uF in the reference):

      0_1521921849048_cdb5eb86-ea5e-4392-b3a7-2e3d4c4a92f0-image.png

      Therefore I think your breakout is correct, as only the inductors between DCC and DEC4 need to be added to match the reference schematic :+1:

      0_1521922345076_889e8f1b-b94f-4c8c-aa8b-2c0d341fae1c-image.png

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      #1482

      @yveaux :)

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      • korttomaK korttoma

        @Mika what is your experience regarding battery consumption on these?

        LINK

        I put together a sketch witch seems to work fine but one CR2032 just lasts a couple of days.

        Sketch:

        /**
         * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
         * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
         * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
         * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
         * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
         *
         * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
         * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
         * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
         *
         * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
         * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
         *
         * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
         * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
         * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
         *
         *******************************
         */
        
        // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
        //#define MY_DEBUG 
        
        // Define a static node address, remove if you want auto address assignment
        //#define MY_NODE_ID 26                                                          // Kök
        #define MY_NODE_ID 27                                                          // Test device
                                                          
        
        // Enable and select radio type attached
        
        #define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
        
        #include <MySensors.h>
        
        #define SN "NRF5 Scene"
        #define SV "1.0"
        
        #define CHILD_ID_SCENE 1
        
        // PIN for the buttons
        byte buttonOne = 28;
        
        //Bounce debouncer[NUMBUTTONS];
        int buttonOneoldValue;
        
        
        // Pin definitions
        #define DIGITAL_INPUT_INT 28   // The digital input you attached your interrupt  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
        
        
        // Sensor messages
        MyMessage msgOn(CHILD_ID_SCENE, V_SCENE_ON);
        
        // Global settings
        uint16_t SceneOne = 0;
        uint16_t SceneTwo = 1;
        
        
        void blinkityBlink(uint8_t repetitions) {
          for (int x=0;x<repetitions;x++) {
            digitalWrite(LED_BUILTIN,HIGH);
            wait(20);
            digitalWrite(LED_BUILTIN,LOW);
            wait(100);
            digitalWrite(LED_BUILTIN,HIGH);
            wait(20);
            digitalWrite(LED_BUILTIN,LOW);    
            if (x<(repetitions-1)) {  //skip waiting at the end of the final repetition
              wait(500);
            }
          }
        }
        
        
        /****************************************************
         *
         * Setup code 
         *
         ****************************************************/
         
        void setup() {
          
          hwPinMode(LED_BUILTIN,OUTPUT_D0H1);
          blinkityBlink(2);  //signify power-up and start of operations
        
          NRF_CLOCK->INTENSET=B11;  //enable interrupts for EVENTS_HFCLKSTARTED and  EVENTS_LFCLKSTARTED
          NRF_CLOCK->TASKS_HFCLKSTART=1;  //start the high frequency crystal oscillator clock
          while (!(NRF_CLOCK->EVENTS_HFCLKSTARTED)) {} //wait until high frequency crystal oscillator clock is up to speed and working
                                                        
          hwPinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_INT, INPUT_PULLUP);
            
            /// Make input & enable pull-up resistors on switch pins
          hwPinMode(buttonOne, INPUT_PULLUP);
          buttonOneoldValue = -1;
          
        
          sendBattLevel();
          
        
        }
        
        void presentation()  {
          sendSketchInfo(SN, SV);
          //present the scene controller to gateway
          wait(10);
          present(CHILD_ID_SCENE, S_SCENE_CONTROLLER);
              
          wait(10);
        }
        
        
        /***********************************************
         *
         *  Main loop function
         *
         ***********************************************/
        void loop() {
          
          // Check for button activity
             
          int value = digitalRead(buttonOne);
            
          if (value != buttonOneoldValue)
            {
              // Send in the new value
              if (value == LOW)                                                      
              {
                send(msgOn.set(SceneOne));
                
                wait(20);
        
                send(msgOn.set(SceneTwo));
        
                sendBattLevel();
                      
        
              }
              buttonOneoldValue = value;
            }
            
          sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_INT), CHANGE, 0);  
          
        }
        
        
        
        
        /********************************************
         *
         * Sends battery information (battery percentage)
         *
         * Parameters
         * - force : Forces transmission of a value
         *
         *******************************************/
        void sendBattLevel()
        {
            long vcc = hwCPUVoltage();
          
            // Calculate percentage
        
            vcc = vcc - 1800; // subtract 1.9V from vcc, as this is the lowest voltage we will operate at
            
            long percent = vcc / 14.0;
            sendBatteryLevel(percent);    
          
        }
        

        I noticed that the chip sais:
        N51822
        QFABC0
        1646UU

        QFAB translates to 16kB RAM, 128kB flash and I can not even select this option in the arduino IDE. Can this be the problem?

        @d00616 refer to his document for some high current consumption issue but I'm not sure what to do with the info.

        Is there something wrong with my sketch or is there just an old crappy chip on the device??

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        #1483

        @korttoma said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

        @Mika what is your experience regarding battery consumption on these?

        LINK

        I put together a sketch witch seems to work fine but one CR2032 just lasts a couple of days.
        I noticed that the chip sais:
        N51822
        QFABC0
        1646UU

        QFAB translates to 16kB RAM, 128kB flash and I can not even select this option in the arduino IDE. Can this be the problem?

        @d00616 refer to his document for some high current consumption issue but I'm not sure what to do with the info.

        Is there something wrong with my sketch or is there just an old crappy chip on the device??

        So I tried your code with a more recent version of the chip and I have a power consumption around 1mA.
        This is not surprising because in fact issue 39 seems to not be completely fixed, if I believe this link:
        https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/577/current-consumption-when-using-rtc-ppi-and-gpiote#post-id-18533

        "The third revision hardware of the nRF51 has a solution for the GPIOTE OUT tasks, which has very low current consumption (<1uA). The third revision nRF51 hardware will be released in a few days. The third revision hardware still does not have a solution for the GPIOTE IN events, they still consume high current, so for low current applications, use the GPIOTE PORT event instead or the app_button libary."

        From what I see it was never fixed.

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          I'm seeing a special offer for this at 2€ with coupon https://www.aliexpress.com/item/nRF52832-2-4GHz-Wireless-rf-Module-CDSENET-E73-2G4M04S-SPI-SMD-rf-Receiver-transmitter-Bluetooth-Module/32819293925.html
          Should i go ahead?

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          • gohanG gohan

            I'm seeing a special offer for this at 2€ with coupon https://www.aliexpress.com/item/nRF52832-2-4GHz-Wireless-rf-Module-CDSENET-E73-2G4M04S-SPI-SMD-rf-Receiver-transmitter-Bluetooth-Module/32819293925.html
            Should i go ahead?

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            wrote on last edited by
            #1485

            @gohan Gee, I don't know. Can you really afford $2.55? ;)

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              #1486

              I don't know if it is a good one and I already have a bunch of stuff I bought still in the drawer :sweat_smile:

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              • gohanG gohan

                I don't know if it is a good one and I already have a bunch of stuff I bought still in the drawer :sweat_smile:

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                #1487

                @gohan For the price, it's good. I like Fanstel's better, but they have fewer exposed pins and cost more.

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                • Nca78N Nca78

                  @korttoma said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  @Mika what is your experience regarding battery consumption on these?

                  LINK

                  I put together a sketch witch seems to work fine but one CR2032 just lasts a couple of days.
                  I noticed that the chip sais:
                  N51822
                  QFABC0
                  1646UU

                  QFAB translates to 16kB RAM, 128kB flash and I can not even select this option in the arduino IDE. Can this be the problem?

                  @d00616 refer to his document for some high current consumption issue but I'm not sure what to do with the info.

                  Is there something wrong with my sketch or is there just an old crappy chip on the device??

                  So I tried your code with a more recent version of the chip and I have a power consumption around 1mA.
                  This is not surprising because in fact issue 39 seems to not be completely fixed, if I believe this link:
                  https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/577/current-consumption-when-using-rtc-ppi-and-gpiote#post-id-18533

                  "The third revision hardware of the nRF51 has a solution for the GPIOTE OUT tasks, which has very low current consumption (<1uA). The third revision nRF51 hardware will be released in a few days. The third revision hardware still does not have a solution for the GPIOTE IN events, they still consume high current, so for low current applications, use the GPIOTE PORT event instead or the app_button libary."

                  From what I see it was never fixed.

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                  @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  use the GPIOTE PORT event instead or the app_button libary.

                  Thanks again for pointing out a possible solution but again I do not know how. I will just have to be patient and wait for someone to post an example of how to use one of the methods you mentioned.

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                    #1489

                    I have started to test a NRF51822

                    and I can upload to it with Arduino IDE but I want to use vim + platformio. And I think i'm quite close :)

                    When I ran platformio upload --target upload

                    GNU MCU Eclipse 64-bits Open On-Chip Debugger 0.10.0+dev-00392-gbe9ef0b0 (2018-01-12-14:56)
                    Licensed under GNU GPL v2
                    For bug reports, read
                    http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
                    0x4000
                    Info : The selected transport took over low-level target control. The results might differ compared to plain JTAG/SWD
                    adapter speed: 1000 kHz
                    Info : Unable to match requested speed 1000 kHz, using 950 kHz
                    Info : Unable to match requested speed 1000 kHz, using 950 kHz
                    Info : clock speed 950 kHz
                    Info : STLINK v2 JTAG v17 API v2 SWIM v4 VID 0x0483 PID 0x3748
                    Info : using stlink api v2
                    Info : Target voltage: 3.225841
                    Info : nrf51.cpu: hardware has 4 breakpoints, 2 watchpoints
                    Info : Listening on port 3333 for gdb connections
                    target halted due to debug-request, current mode: Thread
                    xPSR: 0xc1000000 pc: 0x000021a4 msp: 0x20004000
                    ** Programming Started **
                    auto erase enabled
                    Warn : Unknown device (HWID 0x000000d1)
                    Warn : using fast async flash loader. This is currently supported
                    Warn : only with ST-Link and CMSIS-DAP. If you have issues, add
                    Warn : "set WORKAREASIZE 0" before sourcing nrf51.cfg/nrf52.cfg to disable it
                    target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread
                    xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000001e msp: 0x20004000
                    wrote 33792 bytes from file .pioenvs/nrf51_dk/firmware.hex in 1.594509s (20.696 KiB/s)
                    ** Programming Finished **
                    ** Verify Started **
                    target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread
                    xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000002e msp: 0x20004000
                    verified 32960 bytes in 0.236646s (136.015 KiB/s)
                    ** Verified OK **
                    ** Resetting Target **
                    shutdown command invoked
                    

                    and the output in Arduino IDE looks like:

                    Open On-Chip Debugger 0.10.0-dev-00254-g696fc0a (2016-04-09-12:07)
                    Licensed under GNU GPL v2
                    For bug reports, read
                    	http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
                    debug_level: 0
                    0x4000
                    adapter speed: 1000 kHz
                    nrf51.cpu: target state: halted
                    target halted due to debug-request, current mode: Thread 
                    xPSR: 0xc1000000 pc: 0x0000251c msp: 0x20004000
                    ** Programming Started **
                    auto erase enabled
                    nrf51.cpu: target state: halted
                    target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
                    xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000001e msp: 0x20004000
                    wrote 31744 bytes from file /tmp/arduino_build_390477/Si7021_TemperatureNode_v007_voltage__version_7_board_.ino.hex in 1.500105s (20.665 KiB/s)
                    ** Programming Finished **
                    ** Verify Started **
                    nrf51.cpu: target state: halted
                    target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
                    xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000002e msp: 0x20004000
                    verified 31580 bytes in 0.234860s (131.312 KiB/s)
                    ** Verified OK **
                    ** Resetting Target **
                    shutdown command invoked
                    

                    and my platfromio.ini looks like:

                    [env:nrf51_dk]
                    platform = nordicnrf51
                    framework = arduino
                    board = nrf51_dk
                    upload_protocol = stlink 
                    

                    Should I modify the nrf51_dk.cfg or can anyone see whats the problem is?

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                      #1490

                      What interface do you guys suggest for programming the nrf52832?

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                      • korttomaK korttoma

                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        use the GPIOTE PORT event instead or the app_button libary.

                        Thanks again for pointing out a possible solution but again I do not know how. I will just have to be patient and wait for someone to post an example of how to use one of the methods you mentioned.

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                        @korttoma said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        use the GPIOTE PORT event instead or the app_button libary.

                        Thanks again for pointing out a possible solution but again I do not know how. I will just have to be patient and wait for someone to post an example of how to use one of the methods you mentioned.

                        I'm trying to implement it right now, not really useful for me as I will only have one beacon board for which I will need it, but it's a good occasion to learn. I'll post my results here, but probably next week as I'll have short holidays :)

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                        • Nca78N Nca78

                          @korttoma said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          use the GPIOTE PORT event instead or the app_button libary.

                          Thanks again for pointing out a possible solution but again I do not know how. I will just have to be patient and wait for someone to post an example of how to use one of the methods you mentioned.

                          I'm trying to implement it right now, not really useful for me as I will only have one beacon board for which I will need it, but it's a good occasion to learn. I'll post my results here, but probably next week as I'll have short holidays :)

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                          @nca78 :+1: no hurry ;)

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                          • gohanG gohan

                            What interface do you guys suggest for programming the nrf52832?

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                            #1493

                            @gohan you mean programmer? Nothing beats DK with jlink.
                            Other options: jlink EDU, DIY BlackMagicProbe or STLink

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                              Mod
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                              #1494

                              ok, I bought 2 of the nrf52 at half the price, now what would be the cheap solution among the programmers? Jlink is on the pricy side.

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                                ok, I bought 2 of the nrf52 at half the price, now what would be the cheap solution among the programmers? Jlink is on the pricy side.

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                                @gohan said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                ok, I bought 2 of the nrf52 at half the price, now what would be the cheap solution among the programmers? Jlink is on the pricy side.

                                Cheap jlink clones with 4 wires from AliExpress/Ebay seem to work. So does the ST-Link v2 which is probably the cheapest option.

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                                  Mod
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                                  I got kind of lost with all those jlink clones with so many different versions. The ST-Link V2 I found it on digikey and similar sites for around 18/19€, is it the right one?

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                                  • gohanG gohan

                                    I got kind of lost with all those jlink clones with so many different versions. The ST-Link V2 I found it on digikey and similar sites for around 18/19€, is it the right one?

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                                    @gohan I use both the ST-LinkV2 (2 dollars from eBay) and the NRF52832-DK both work like a charm.

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                                      I'm seeing a special offer for this at 2€ with coupon https://www.aliexpress.com/item/nRF52832-2-4GHz-Wireless-rf-Module-CDSENET-E73-2G4M04S-SPI-SMD-rf-Receiver-transmitter-Bluetooth-Module/32819293925.html
                                      Should i go ahead?

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                                      @gohan LOL, i need to stop buying these things, got 12 just waiting to be used.. but at this price, its almost impossible to not buy them :)

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                                      • gohanG gohan

                                        I got kind of lost with all those jlink clones with so many different versions. The ST-Link V2 I found it on digikey and similar sites for around 18/19€, is it the right one?

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                                        @gohan said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        The ST-Link V2 I found it on digikey and similar sites for around 18/19€, is it the right one?

                                        Don't do that. Either buy $2 clones or invest into DK or:
                                        https://www.adafruit.com/product/3571

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                                          Mod
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                                          Is this one ok? https://www.ebay.it/itm/ST-Link-V2-Programming-Unit-mini-STM8-STM32-Emulator-Downloader-M89/122178354704?hash=item1c7265be10:g:xx4AAOSwm7pZ2Kb-

                                          NRF52832-DK is kind of way over budget :D

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