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  • YveauxY Yveaux

    @Zeph said:

    I think the APM may tend to use the larger boot loader. Does anybody know if it can use Optiboot or why not?

    Yes, it works very well! I compiled optiboot 5.0a to run at 76k8 baud, as I got problems with 115k2.
    It's true that you need to add an entry to boards.txt, but that's not too hard.
    When done, your new entry shows up in arduino and can be used just like any other target board.

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    @Yveaux said:

    Yes, it works very well! I compiled optiboot 5.0a to run at 76k8 baud, as I got problems with 115k2.
    It's true that you need to add an entry to boards.txt, but that's not too hard.
    When done, your new entry shows up in arduino and can be used just like any other target board.

    Any tips on how to do this? (Do you have a favorite reference URL?)

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      hek
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      @Zeph said:

      I think the APM may tend to use the larger boot loader. Does anybody know if it can use Optiboot or why not?

      Yes, optiboot should work fine. Uploads becomes faster and you can use watchdogs.

      Just bought a couple of these ISPs to be able to change bootloader. Will probably add them to the shop.

      AVR ISP programmer for Arduino bootloader

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      • Z Zeph

        @Yveaux said:

        Yes, it works very well! I compiled optiboot 5.0a to run at 76k8 baud, as I got problems with 115k2.
        It's true that you need to add an entry to boards.txt, but that's not too hard.
        When done, your new entry shows up in arduino and can be used just like any other target board.

        Any tips on how to do this? (Do you have a favorite reference URL?)

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        Mod
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        #14

        @Zeph Yeah, on my harddrive in Dutch...
        I can give you a very short description on how I did it for Arduino Pro Mini, 3v3 @ 8MHz, though.

        • Download https://code.google.com/p/optiboot/downloads/detail?name=optiboot-v5.0a.zip

        • Extract to c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\ (rename existing optiboot dir, when required)

        • Edit bootloaders\optiboot\Makefile to change baudrate (line 562)

            atmega328_pro8:
            	$(MAKE) $(CHIP) AVR_FREQ=8000000L LED_START_FLASHES=3 BAUD_RATE=76800
          
        • Start cmd shell in c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\bootloaders\optiboot

        • make clean

        • make atmega328_pro8

        • flash optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex using your favourite ISP

        • Fuses: Low = 0xFF, High = 0xDE, Extended = 0xFE

        • Close any active Arduino windows.

        • Edit c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\boards.txt

        • Add (based on Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328):

            ## Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328 - Optiboot 76k8
            ## --------------------------------------------------
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob=ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz, Optiboot 76k8)
          
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.maximum_size=30720
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.speed=76800
          
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.file=atmega/ATmegaBOOT_168_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex
          
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.build.mcu=atmega328p
            pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.build.f_cpu=8000000L
          
        • Start Arduino IDE

        • Select Board -> Arduino Pro or Pro Mini

        • Select Processor -> ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz, Optiboot 76k8)

        • File->Upload

        That's it :+1:

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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        • YveauxY Yveaux

          @Zeph Yeah, on my harddrive in Dutch...
          I can give you a very short description on how I did it for Arduino Pro Mini, 3v3 @ 8MHz, though.

          • Download https://code.google.com/p/optiboot/downloads/detail?name=optiboot-v5.0a.zip

          • Extract to c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\ (rename existing optiboot dir, when required)

          • Edit bootloaders\optiboot\Makefile to change baudrate (line 562)

              atmega328_pro8:
              	$(MAKE) $(CHIP) AVR_FREQ=8000000L LED_START_FLASHES=3 BAUD_RATE=76800
            
          • Start cmd shell in c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\bootloaders\optiboot

          • make clean

          • make atmega328_pro8

          • flash optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex using your favourite ISP

          • Fuses: Low = 0xFF, High = 0xDE, Extended = 0xFE

          • Close any active Arduino windows.

          • Edit c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\boards.txt

          • Add (based on Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328):

              ## Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328 - Optiboot 76k8
              ## --------------------------------------------------
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob=ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz, Optiboot 76k8)
            
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.maximum_size=30720
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.speed=76800
            
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.file=atmega/ATmegaBOOT_168_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex
            
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.build.mcu=atmega328p
              pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.build.f_cpu=8000000L
            
          • Start Arduino IDE

          • Select Board -> Arduino Pro or Pro Mini

          • Select Processor -> ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz, Optiboot 76k8)

          • File->Upload

          That's it :+1:

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          #15

          @Yveaux

          Could you perhaps post this separately? Candidate for stickie.

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          • YveauxY Yveaux

            @Zeph Yeah, on my harddrive in Dutch...
            I can give you a very short description on how I did it for Arduino Pro Mini, 3v3 @ 8MHz, though.

            • Download https://code.google.com/p/optiboot/downloads/detail?name=optiboot-v5.0a.zip

            • Extract to c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\ (rename existing optiboot dir, when required)

            • Edit bootloaders\optiboot\Makefile to change baudrate (line 562)

                atmega328_pro8:
                	$(MAKE) $(CHIP) AVR_FREQ=8000000L LED_START_FLASHES=3 BAUD_RATE=76800
              
            • Start cmd shell in c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\bootloaders\optiboot

            • make clean

            • make atmega328_pro8

            • flash optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex using your favourite ISP

            • Fuses: Low = 0xFF, High = 0xDE, Extended = 0xFE

            • Close any active Arduino windows.

            • Edit c:\Arduino_1.5.5\hardware\arduino\avr\boards.txt

            • Add (based on Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328):

                ## Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328 - Optiboot 76k8
                ## --------------------------------------------------
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob=ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz, Optiboot 76k8)
              
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.maximum_size=30720
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.upload.speed=76800
              
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.bootloader.file=atmega/ATmegaBOOT_168_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex
              
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.build.mcu=atmega328p
                pro.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328ob.build.f_cpu=8000000L
              
            • Start Arduino IDE

            • Select Board -> Arduino Pro or Pro Mini

            • Select Processor -> ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz, Optiboot 76k8)

            • File->Upload

            That's it :+1:

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            Zeph
            Hero Member
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            #16

            @Yveaux
            Thanks! Very helpful.

            There's something I've been considering for a while. I'd like a unique ID on each Arduino. A short number would be fine if I'm assigning my own.

            My thought is that there seems to be a few unused bytes at the top of OptiBoot (not specified in the .hex, and remaining the unprogrammed FF value when read). I was thinking I could put my unique unit number there. Unlike eeprom or application flash, it would remain stable (until and unless I reflashed the boot flash). The fuses have to be programmed to make the boot flash readable by application code of course.

            I was thinking to use about 3 bytes, with a 2 byte ID number and a checksum. The checksum doesn't have to be very robust, it's mainly just to confirm that there is indeed a unit ID there (would be all FF otherwise, or other values if fuses don't let you read it).

            Then I could have a very tiny utility routine which allows me to ask a node which Arduino it's running on (the system corresponding to the ID would be described in a row of a Google spreadsheet so I don't misplace it)

            I was thinking that this could be perhaps done by editing the.hex file before programming the bootloader (with some code, or by hand if neccessary - I don't have THAT many ardu's) There is a simple per row checksum in the .hex file, but I'm not aware of a overall checksum on the whole image to be adjusted.

            How feasible / difficult does this sound? Any ideas on how to implement it?

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            • Z Zeph

              @Yveaux
              Thanks! Very helpful.

              There's something I've been considering for a while. I'd like a unique ID on each Arduino. A short number would be fine if I'm assigning my own.

              My thought is that there seems to be a few unused bytes at the top of OptiBoot (not specified in the .hex, and remaining the unprogrammed FF value when read). I was thinking I could put my unique unit number there. Unlike eeprom or application flash, it would remain stable (until and unless I reflashed the boot flash). The fuses have to be programmed to make the boot flash readable by application code of course.

              I was thinking to use about 3 bytes, with a 2 byte ID number and a checksum. The checksum doesn't have to be very robust, it's mainly just to confirm that there is indeed a unit ID there (would be all FF otherwise, or other values if fuses don't let you read it).

              Then I could have a very tiny utility routine which allows me to ask a node which Arduino it's running on (the system corresponding to the ID would be described in a row of a Google spreadsheet so I don't misplace it)

              I was thinking that this could be perhaps done by editing the.hex file before programming the bootloader (with some code, or by hand if neccessary - I don't have THAT many ardu's) There is a simple per row checksum in the .hex file, but I'm not aware of a overall checksum on the whole image to be adjusted.

              How feasible / difficult does this sound? Any ideas on how to implement it?

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              Yveaux
              Mod
              wrote on last edited by Yveaux
              #17

              @Zeph sound feasible and useful.
              Google for hex file format (I know there are many variants so be careful) or tools to modify them.
              You could also just decode (or take the binary file generated by the linker) the hex file, change it and then convert to hex again.

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                @Yveaux

                Could you perhaps post this separately? Candidate for stickie.

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                Mod
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                #18

                @hek said:

                Could you perhaps post this separately? Candidate for stickie.

                Moved it to my blog: http://yveaux.blogspot.nl/2014/07/changing-arduino-bootloader-to-optiboot.html

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @hek said:

                  Could you perhaps post this separately? Candidate for stickie.

                  Moved it to my blog: http://yveaux.blogspot.nl/2014/07/changing-arduino-bootloader-to-optiboot.html

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                  @Yveaux I was about to ask about using 31.5 KiB for application code with optiboot, but I'll put the comment on your blog instead.

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                  • YveauxY Yveaux

                    @Zeph said:

                    I think the APM may tend to use the larger boot loader. Does anybody know if it can use Optiboot or why not?

                    Yes, it works very well! I compiled optiboot 5.0a to run at 76k8 baud, as I got problems with 115k2.
                    It's true that you need to add an entry to boards.txt, but that's not too hard.
                    When done, your new entry shows up in arduino and can be used just like any other target board.

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                    #20

                    @Yveaux said:

                    Yes, it works very well! I compiled optiboot 5.0a to run at 76k8 baud, as I got problems with 115k2.

                    That makes sense - 115k2 is kind of marginal anyway in terms of bit rate accuracy for async serial on the ATMega @16 MHz, and many Arduino Pro Micros have ceramic resonators with +/- 0.5% (vs more accurate crystals for the Uno). I see that 76k8 is actually a pretty good match even with an 8 MHz F_CPU. (0.2% error)

                    I had not noticed that there was a good match for 76k8, so thanks for that indirect "tip" as well.

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                    • Z Zeph

                      @Yveaux said:

                      Yes, it works very well! I compiled optiboot 5.0a to run at 76k8 baud, as I got problems with 115k2.

                      That makes sense - 115k2 is kind of marginal anyway in terms of bit rate accuracy for async serial on the ATMega @16 MHz, and many Arduino Pro Micros have ceramic resonators with +/- 0.5% (vs more accurate crystals for the Uno). I see that 76k8 is actually a pretty good match even with an 8 MHz F_CPU. (0.2% error)

                      I had not noticed that there was a good match for 76k8, so thanks for that indirect "tip" as well.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @Zeph Yeah, I know, but I didn't want to devote a whole article on baudrate calculation!

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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