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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • T Tommas

    Dear @dbemowsk

    I bought these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/401088383355

    Thank you!

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    sundberg84
    Hardware Contributor
    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
    #427

    @Tommas - this is the voltage regulator that the board is designed for so the markings/pinout will be right for you. If you put 5v on the PCB input and use 3.3v pro mini though, the only choise you have is to put 5v on RAW and let the onboard voltage regulator on the PCB regulate it down to 3.3v. The voltage regulator on the PCB only regulate the voltage to the radio and are meant for a 5v input on a 5v pro mini. Using raw means there is no need for the LE33.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      @keldandorin - are you using a booster as mentioned above?
      The problem is in that case noice introduces in the radio from the booster (a known issue). I will in the future try to buy me a oscilloscope and diagnose more... but for now, if you add a "bad/cheap" booster it will be this problem. 2.8v sounds really bad though, and most likley a really bad clone.

      You have two options.

      1. Try another booster, and/or try to filter with capacitors.
      2. Load a new bootloader that can handle lower voltages accoring to link above.

      Let me know if I can assist you in any way.

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      keldandorin
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      #428

      @sundberg84 Is there any way to say if booster is a bad one or not before ordering them?
      The one I ordered was the one on shoping list from aliexpress. Will try I capacitator and see if I can get a new booster from kjell&Comany tomorrow just to try. Build a setup on bread bord where I powered radio with 2 AA and got the same result. Got a fju places where I like to put some sensors with no power so realy need to get this working :). Could the radiomodules be bad to?

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        gohan
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        #429

        Bad quality from cheap Chinese suppliers, is always an option 😁

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        • keldandorinK keldandorin

          @sundberg84 Is there any way to say if booster is a bad one or not before ordering them?
          The one I ordered was the one on shoping list from aliexpress. Will try I capacitator and see if I can get a new booster from kjell&Comany tomorrow just to try. Build a setup on bread bord where I powered radio with 2 AA and got the same result. Got a fju places where I like to put some sensors with no power so realy need to get this working :). Could the radiomodules be bad to?

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          sundberg84
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #430

          @keldandorin - could be a weak clone radio yes.
          Just to get your hopes up, I got booster driven nodes all around the place with Nrf24l01+ radio and they works great!
          I change battery every 1-1.5 years but as I said, the experience is that the radio - booster needs a good teamwork :)

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @keldandorin - could be a weak clone radio yes.
            Just to get your hopes up, I got booster driven nodes all around the place with Nrf24l01+ radio and they works great!
            I change battery every 1-1.5 years but as I said, the experience is that the radio - booster needs a good teamwork :)

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            keldandorin
            wrote on last edited by keldandorin
            #431

            @sundberg84 Sounds good, Thats what I'm looking for. Have never worked with tinkers like this befor so everything is new. But this place is great thx for taking time.

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              pellusfromtellus
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              #432

              Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

              Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

              Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

              :)


              A complete rookie! Love this stuff! My path: Domoticz/Zwave and now a big MySensors-fan! :)

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              • pellusfromtellusP pellusfromtellus

                Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

                Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

                Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

                :)

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                sundberg84
                Hardware Contributor
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                #433

                @pellusfromtellus - to get a 100% right answer we ping @hek but I recommend paypal!

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • hekH Offline
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                  hek
                  Admin
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #434

                  @pellusfromtellus

                  I think most of them handle paypal/card. You can press the "Order" button to find out. Nothing is binding until payment has been done.

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                  • Paul RobertsonP Offline
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                    Paul Robertson
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                    #435

                    Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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                    • Paul RobertsonP Paul Robertson

                      Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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                      sundberg84
                      Hardware Contributor
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #436

                      @Paul-Robertson - hi!
                      Yes, but this is Eagles output gerber files.

                      Drill: SundbergMys9.TXT
                      Outline can be found in all other files:

                      https://www.pcbway.com/project/share/How_to_generate_Gerber_from_Eagle.html

                      0_1505990995661_upload-c5e3c1d3-3dfb-46dc-9e10-e2d5dbfaca0d

                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      • sinczeS Offline
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                        sincze
                        MySensors Evangelist
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #437

                        Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                        • sinczeS sincze

                          Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                            hiddenuser
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                            #439

                            IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                            Thanks!!

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                              gohan
                              Mod
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #440

                              If you want to use a lipo battery, you need a voltage regulator

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                              • H hiddenuser

                                IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                                Thanks!!

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                                sundberg84
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #441

                                @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                  @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

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                                  gohan
                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #442

                                  @sundberg84 that tp4056 outputs just the lipo battery voltage

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                                    #443

                                    Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                    I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

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                                    • H hiddenuser

                                      Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                      I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                                      0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                                      sundberg84
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #444

                                      @hiddenuser - well, what would a battery measurer be if it reported a constant 3.3v boosted voltage? ;)
                                      It all depends on how everything is connected (pictures?) but if you have connected it as battery instryctions the radio and voltage divider that measured the incoming battery are not a part of the booster circuit. This to prevent noice to the radio and to be able to actually measure the battery voltage and not step-up voltage which is the idea behind the board.

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      • H hiddenuser

                                        Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                        I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                                        0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                                        gohan
                                        Mod
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #445

                                        @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                                          dakipro
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                                          #446

                                          hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
                                          I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

                                          C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                                          GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                                          GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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