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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)

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  • Jose SimoesJ Jose Simoes

    hi, just an idea, do you think it is possible to add a current sensor to the PCB in order to add a power meter function to the node to monitor power consumption? say up to 20A

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    sundberg84
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    @Jose-Simoes - no clue about current sensors... sorry I just cant answer that at the moment.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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      • sundberg84S sundberg84

        @Jose-Simoes - no clue about current sensors... sorry I just cant answer that at the moment.

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        @sundberg84 -hey, i was meaning something like the ACS712 Module, but add the ic to the PCB for better integration.

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        • Jose SimoesJ Jose Simoes

          @sundberg84 -hey, i was meaning something like the ACS712 Module, but add the ic to the PCB for better integration.

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          sundberg84
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          @Jose-Simoes said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

          ACS712

          Well, to safe space and meet my goal to be able to have it so small so it fits inside a wallsocket i have excluded all sensors and included the MysX connector. This way every user can add their own sensor.

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            Hi, @sundberg84
            I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
            Thanks & Regards

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            • J Justas

              Hi, @sundberg84
              I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
              Thanks & Regards

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              tonnerre33
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              @Justas Hello,

              yes you have to buy parts and assemble them yourself. 1.5$ by PCB is cheap, you can't have the components for this price ;)

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              • J Justas

                Hi, @sundberg84
                I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
                Thanks & Regards

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                gohan
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                @Justas
                you get the PCB only, then you have to buy all the components and solder them on the pcb :)
                If you aren't a lot familiar with soldering you could also evaluate Sonoff wifi relays ;)

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                  Justas
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                  Thanks, I also checked the parts list and found that total price is more than $14, so now I see how stupid my questions was ;)

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                    and building it is 99% of the fun !

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                      #38

                      Very nice project. And it is so nice that you thought about the fuses for the power supply and the relais. :-)
                      I have two additional ideas:

                      • adding the ATSHA204 fo secure signing
                      • I could be to big to integrate but something like this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Bit-AC-220V-Optocoupler-Isolation-Module-Testing-Board-Adaptive-for-PLC/32754734564.html) would be great to detect the in wall switch state.
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                        exilit
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                        #39

                        Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                        • E exilit

                          Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                          sundberg84
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                          @exilit - sorry my friend, I have not studied the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx very closely.
                          Mine is a bit smaller instead of 50x50 but he got 2 relays.

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            #41

                            @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                            As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                            Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                            but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                            • E exilit

                              @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                              As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                              Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                              but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                              @exilit - I think we both origin from the original discussion about the HLK-PM01: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1607/safe-in-wall-ac-to-dc-transformers.
                              If you read this you can pretty much see everything in the PCB (fuses, varistor and temp fuse to protect the HLK module).

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                                • M Martin Nicolaisen

                                  Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                                  sundberg84
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                                  @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                                  I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

                                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                    @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                                    I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

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                                    gohan
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                                    @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                                    (60cm)

                                    Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                                      (60cm)

                                      Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                                      sundberg84
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                                      @gohan - lol :)
                                      60mm!!!!

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                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        https://photos.app.goo.gl/JBIVogCZMp0mOCVh2

                                        I must have been drunk when I ordered this. Any idea what I have ordered? I ordered thru dirtypcbs somehow.

                                        Does look a little bit like this PCB but not really. Have I found a early version and drunk ordered 10 of em?

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                                          That looks like version 4.1

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