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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)

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    Justas
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    Hi, @sundberg84
    I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
    Thanks & Regards

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    • J Justas

      Hi, @sundberg84
      I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
      Thanks & Regards

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      tonnerre33
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by tonnerre33
      #34

      @Justas Hello,

      yes you have to buy parts and assemble them yourself. 1.5$ by PCB is cheap, you can't have the components for this price ;)

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      • J Justas

        Hi, @sundberg84
        I'm really interested in this module. Maybe stupid question, but I'm very new with openhardware and would like to understand: if I will go and buy through the link provided (10xPCB for 15$), will I receive already assembled unit with all the parts, or I have to go and buy parts and assemble it myself?
        Thanks & Regards

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        gohan
        Mod
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        #35

        @Justas
        you get the PCB only, then you have to buy all the components and solder them on the pcb :)
        If you aren't a lot familiar with soldering you could also evaluate Sonoff wifi relays ;)

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          Justas
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          Thanks, I also checked the parts list and found that total price is more than $14, so now I see how stupid my questions was ;)

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            proddy
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            and building it is 99% of the fun !

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              hugch
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              #38

              Very nice project. And it is so nice that you thought about the fuses for the power supply and the relais. :-)
              I have two additional ideas:

              • adding the ATSHA204 fo secure signing
              • I could be to big to integrate but something like this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Bit-AC-220V-Optocoupler-Isolation-Module-Testing-Board-Adaptive-for-PLC/32754734564.html) would be great to detect the in wall switch state.
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                exilit
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                #39

                Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                • E exilit

                  Great project, thank you for sharing. Searching for a power supply i found your project which seems to fit my needs pretty well. What do you think are the main differences to the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx (https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ac-dc-ssd-relay). I am mainly interested in the AC/DC conversion part.Would like to hear your opinion on that.

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                  sundberg84
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #40

                  @exilit - sorry my friend, I have not studied the AC/DC/Double SSD Relay by Aproxx very closely.
                  Mine is a bit smaller instead of 50x50 but he got 2 relays.

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    exilit
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                    #41

                    @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                    As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                    Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                    but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                    • E exilit

                      @sundberg84 Thank you for your reply. Do you see big differences regarding the safety?
                      As far as I see both projects use a slow blow fuse and a thermal fuse to protect the AC-side.

                      Sorry for digging deeper, but both projects look great. Yours seems to be better tested,
                      but the other one has two relays. Hard to decide, which one to use :-).

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                      sundberg84
                      Hardware Contributor
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                      @exilit - I think we both origin from the original discussion about the HLK-PM01: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1607/safe-in-wall-ac-to-dc-transformers.
                      If you read this you can pretty much see everything in the PCB (fuses, varistor and temp fuse to protect the HLK module).

                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                        Martin Nicolaisen
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                        #43

                        Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                        • M Martin Nicolaisen

                          Hi @sundberg84 does it fit the fuga (scandinavian) wall socket? :=

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                          sundberg84
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                          @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                          I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          • sundberg84S sundberg84

                            @martin-nicolaisen - Im not familiar with the fuga wall socket.
                            I use standard round wall sockets (60cm). Can you point me to an image with dimensions ?

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                            gohan
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                            @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                            (60cm)

                            Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                              @sundberg84 said in 💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD):

                              (60cm)

                              Wow that's quite a wall plug

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                              sundberg84
                              Hardware Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @gohan - lol :)
                              60mm!!!!

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                meanmrgreen
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                                https://photos.app.goo.gl/JBIVogCZMp0mOCVh2

                                I must have been drunk when I ordered this. Any idea what I have ordered? I ordered thru dirtypcbs somehow.

                                Does look a little bit like this PCB but not really. Have I found a early version and drunk ordered 10 of em?

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                                  gohan
                                  Mod
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                                  That looks like version 4.1

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                                    Nightbodom
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                                    Hi folks, I manage to solder all the tiny pieces together and now I need some advice on uploading some code/sketch. To start with... is there any instruction for dummies on internet how to upload sketch through ICSP ? I have one arduino which can be programmer, but I don't know how to do it. Then there is question about powering circuit during uploading code.... is it OK if it's connect to AC power during uploading code? And finally, can anyone post some simple sketch for this board to check if everythiing is working? Thanks for help.

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                                    • N Nightbodom

                                      Hi folks, I manage to solder all the tiny pieces together and now I need some advice on uploading some code/sketch. To start with... is there any instruction for dummies on internet how to upload sketch through ICSP ? I have one arduino which can be programmer, but I don't know how to do it. Then there is question about powering circuit during uploading code.... is it OK if it's connect to AC power during uploading code? And finally, can anyone post some simple sketch for this board to check if everythiing is working? Thanks for help.

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                                      hugch
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                                      @nightbodom Arduino have a tutorial for this https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoISP

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                                        Nightbodom
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                                        @hugch thanks for info. I also find this: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard for burning bootloader. And after that... how should I upload sketch?

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                                          @hugch thanks for info. I also find this: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard for burning bootloader. And after that... how should I upload sketch?

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                                          sundberg84
                                          Hardware Contributor
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @nightbodom you connect it to a ISP programmer to the port. This will take care of 5v and Gnd as well so don't connect to AC during upload

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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