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💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

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  • Miroslav KadanÄ›M Offline
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    Miroslav KadanÄ›
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    #92

    It is possible to buy only PCB ? Upload PCB to OSH Park, or send PCB in eagle. I do not have Altium Designer... Thx

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    • Miroslav KadanÄ›M Miroslav KadanÄ›

      It is possible to buy only PCB ? Upload PCB to OSH Park, or send PCB in eagle. I do not have Altium Designer... Thx

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      Koresh
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      #93

      @Miroslav-KadanÄ› I've just uploaded latest gerbers (rfm reset pin was connected to controller, connection of si1132 was fixed, reverse battery polarity protection was added). You can place PCB order at any factory. :wink:

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        Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

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          @yury @koresh

          Few months ago, I've ordered some of your nodes, which work perfectly by the way, but I needed something that could speed up testing of any sensors.
          So following our conversation on Github with Yury, I've created a PCB based on your Button size node, with a field for an extension board. The aim is to have a versatile board, and extensions that could handle virtually any sensors, like NodeManager project, but for hardware ;)
          And it's also a first time experiment in the land of PCBs
          0_1506424891385_IMAG0468.jpg

          Apart 2 errors ( maybe more in the future !), it seems to be well routed, as tests been proving, but i still not tried the FOTA function.
          Errors was a badly routed button and it seems that, after the RFM chip is soldered, communication with USBasp gets bad! Is it because SCK and MISO route ( from pin headers to atmega328 ) goes through the RFM chip before atmega ?

          You were mentioning some mods in dualoptiboot in order to flash M25P40, https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3160/ota-flash-types-for-mysensors/43.
          Would it be possible to share these ?

          And just out of curiosity, how did you manage to solder SI7021 and TSL2561 ?
          By now, it seems like a mystery for me...

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            @yury @koresh

            Few months ago, I've ordered some of your nodes, which work perfectly by the way, but I needed something that could speed up testing of any sensors.
            So following our conversation on Github with Yury, I've created a PCB based on your Button size node, with a field for an extension board. The aim is to have a versatile board, and extensions that could handle virtually any sensors, like NodeManager project, but for hardware ;)
            And it's also a first time experiment in the land of PCBs
            0_1506424891385_IMAG0468.jpg

            Apart 2 errors ( maybe more in the future !), it seems to be well routed, as tests been proving, but i still not tried the FOTA function.
            Errors was a badly routed button and it seems that, after the RFM chip is soldered, communication with USBasp gets bad! Is it because SCK and MISO route ( from pin headers to atmega328 ) goes through the RFM chip before atmega ?

            You were mentioning some mods in dualoptiboot in order to flash M25P40, https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3160/ota-flash-types-for-mysensors/43.
            Would it be possible to share these ?

            And just out of curiosity, how did you manage to solder SI7021 and TSL2561 ?
            By now, it seems like a mystery for me...

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            Koresh
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            wrote on last edited by Koresh
            #96

            @getlarge said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

            after the RFM chip is soldered, communication with USBasp gets bad

            Did you solder R4 (from your schematic https://github.com/getlarge/Cosmonode/blob/master/Cosmonode_sch.pdf)? I can't find it on the boards photo.
            PS
            Will share compiled bootloader and sources soon.

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              @Koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

              Sorry, picture's quality is not too good!
              R4 ( 10Kohm) is soldered. I read about that pullup resistor that is needed to sync with atmega SCK. Any other hint on what could cause that ?
              Maybe, that was a mistake when i changed the fuse? but I didn't have problem before with these settings.

              So I'll have to be patient to use M25P40!

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              • C chbla

                Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

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                @chbla said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

                Can anyone quickly tell me how to do it correctly? I thought it didn't work but I'm unsure.

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                • C chbla

                  @chbla said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                  Maybe a stupid question but how do you connect the FTDI adapter? I only know the ISP pins

                  Can anyone quickly tell me how to do it correctly? I thought it didn't work but I'm unsure.

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                  Koresh
                  Contest Winner
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                  @chbla This board has standard FTDI header (see attached screenshot).

                  0_1506503500534_ftdi.png

                  But it also has all of ISP pins (mosi, miso, sck, rst)

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                    #100

                    @Koresh Might be a dumb question I am planning to work on this board, where do I find the complete part list.

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                      Does any one have links to dirty pcb or OSH Park? Thanks a lot

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                        ^^^warning: it's an infiltration bot.

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                        • H hiddenuser

                          Does any one have links to dirty pcb or OSH Park? Thanks a lot

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                            ^^^warning: it's an infiltration bot.

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                            @NeverDie Not sure if you are referring to me?

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                              @Miroslav-KadanÄ› Thanks!!

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                                I do not have an electronics background. I wend through the pdf files and order the parts and looks like I got the wrong resistor and capacitor or wrong part. Looks like I have to wait for an expert to comment let me know which resistor/capacitor goes where what part size. I would love to hear from someone ;)

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                                • KoreshK Koresh

                                  @Cliff-Karlsson The local factory starts assembly today (button size node, insertable switch node, wall socket insertable node and mini relay box). ETA is one-two week (max).
                                  This board is avaliable with two radios - rfm69hw and rfm69cw (with adapter shown below). Price will be the same. Which radio is preferred for you? If you plan to use this board with battery I suggest to use rfm69cw module to extend battery life (it has lower but enouogh power and works down to ~2V).

                                  0_1490689193824_rfm69cw_adapter.png

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                                  Miroslav KadanÄ›
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                                  #107

                                  @koresh it is possible to buy this adapter (RFM69HCW -> RFM69CW) or download pcb files ?
                                  Thx

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                                  • Miroslav KadanÄ›M Miroslav KadanÄ›

                                    @koresh it is possible to buy this adapter (RFM69HCW -> RFM69CW) or download pcb files ?
                                    Thx

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                                    @miroslav-kadaně said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                    @koresh it is possible to buy this adapter or download pcb files ?
                                    Thx

                                    Go to this link and press the download button: https://www.openhardware.io/view/299/Button-size-radionode-with-sensors-swarm-extension

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      @miroslav-kadaně said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                      @koresh it is possible to buy this adapter or download pcb files ?
                                      Thx

                                      Go to this link and press the download button: https://www.openhardware.io/view/299/Button-size-radionode-with-sensors-swarm-extension

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                                      wrote on last edited by Miroslav KadanÄ›
                                      #109

                                      @neverdie thx, but i need adapter from RFM69HCW to RFM69CW

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                                        Re: 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

                                        2 cr2032 winter upgrade - works nice

                                        Keep working at -20 Celsius in a fridge. voltage dropped from 6 Volts to 5V and keeps pretty stable while sending temperature reading every 2 minutes for 2 days now.

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                                          There are so many reasons to use two CR2032 batteries in series with power converter instead of one lager battery like 2450
                                          -CR2032 are much more widespread batteries
                                          -Wider temperature range
                                          -Stable voltage during all battery lifetime (using voltage converter)
                                          -Stable radio power during battery lifetime
                                          -Batteries give less current during transmitting so they are not "shocked" by high current.

                                          So I plan to create version with two CR2032 batteries holder (like on the Yury's photo) and the ultra high efficiency DC-DC converter based on the tps62745 (400 nA quiescent current, 90% efficiency)
                                          0_1513520436859_2017-12-17_16-39-45.png
                                          :wink:

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