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  • aquaproA aquapro

    If I disconnect orange wire (red marker on first sensor picture), sensor works fine.

    Sensor figures:
    IMAG0483a.jpg
    IMAG0484.jpg
    IMAG0485.jpg

    Gateway figures:
    IMAG0486.jpg
    IMAG0487.jpg
    IMAG0488.jpg
    IMAG0490.jpg

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    @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

    Arduino     nRF24
    9           CE
    10          CSN
    13          SCK
    11          MOSI
    12          MISO
    2           IRQ
    

    These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

    Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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    • aquaproA aquapro

      hello,
      very good project!
      I currently testing version 1.4b1 and I have a problem. Only if I disconnect the CE line on the sensor, the values ​​are transferred.
      If the CE line is connected, only one part will be sent, see Figure 1, the LED on the sensor remains on. As soon as I disconnect CE line, all values ​​are not sent are transmitted (Figure 2) and the LED goes out and lights up briefly in the next transmission.

      Does anyone have an idea?

      greeting

      aqua
      1_4_test_1.PNG
      Figure1

      1_4_test_1b.PNG
      Figure 2

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      Damme
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      #14

      @aquapro Hmmmm
      The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

      edit:

      maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
      inverted CE?

      nrf24L01-black.jpg

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      • DammeD Damme

        @aquapro Hmmmm
        The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

        edit:

        maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
        inverted CE?

        nrf24L01-black.jpg

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        #15

        @Damme Sharp observation, dude!

        Have a look at these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-NRF24L01-wireless-data-transmission-module-NRF24L01-wireless-module/1996222121.html

        Claimed to be nRF24L01+!!

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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        • DammeD Damme

          @aquapro Hmmmm
          The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

          edit:

          maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
          inverted CE?

          nrf24L01-black.jpg

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          @Damme
          Nice Catch Indeed!

          RJ_Make

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          • YveauxY Yveaux

            @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

            Arduino     nRF24
            9           CE
            10          CSN
            13          SCK
            11          MOSI
            12          MISO
            2           IRQ
            

            These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

            Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

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            wrote on last edited by aquapro
            #17

            @Yveaux yes I checked wiring with (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio)
            more detail picture, hope so. (bad light)
            IMAG0491.jpg

            IMAG0493.jpg

            @Damme
            Chip is covered.
            IMAG0494.jpg

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            • YveauxY Yveaux

              @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

              Arduino     nRF24
              9           CE
              10          CSN
              13          SCK
              11          MOSI
              12          MISO
              2           IRQ
              

              These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

              Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

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              #18

              @Yveaux

              Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

              Pin 8?

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              • aquaproA aquapro

                @Yveaux

                Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                Pin 8?

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                Yveaux
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                #19

                @aquapro said:

                Pin 8?

                It looked like you could have a connection to pin 8, but apparently (in the better pictures) you haven't...

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • aquaproA aquapro

                  @Yveaux

                  Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                  Pin 8?

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                  #20

                  @aquapro I dont think you got a nordic semiconductor nrf24l01, What I can find they are only in QFN package.
                  http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24L01

                  So the specs on that chip may be different. Maybe CE is inverted?

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                    #21

                    hm ... if CE inverted, ping sample should not work?! CE must switch between hight and low for TX and RX right? But Ping sample send and receive works.

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                      #22

                      Hi,

                      I have bought the new modules (right on pic), which operate without modification. I simply swapped and all is fine.
                      What do I do with the other. How can I test inverted.

                      new.jpg

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                      • aquaproA aquapro

                        Hi,

                        I have bought the new modules (right on pic), which operate without modification. I simply swapped and all is fine.
                        What do I do with the other. How can I test inverted.

                        new.jpg

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                        #23

                        @aquapro

                        I hope you didn't get the left one when purchasing through the links in the MySensors "store"?

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                          I got the left one from other eb..-"store".

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                            #25

                            The left one works with MySensor-Coding, but only with disconnected CE line.

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                              Zeph
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                              If it truly works correctly with CE disconnected, that could be an advantage when there is a shortage of pins (eg: 8 pin ATTiny).

                              Have you achieved full operation without CE on the old modules?

                              And did you leave CE floating or tie it high?

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                                I still see no difference when CE is disconnected.Only it as work at all.

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                                  What vendor did you use to get the "no CE needed" variants? That could be useful to test.

                                  I'm assuming that the nRF24L01+ doesn't work without CE connected, right?

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                                    #29

                                    Eb.. no. 360917673897 vendor "liuddndd2009"

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