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CE line on sensor node?

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  • hekH Offline
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    hek
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    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    If you show a few pictures also (closeups!) it might help.

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    • aquaproA Offline
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      #8

      If I disconnect orange wire (red marker on first sensor picture), sensor works fine.

      Sensor figures:
      IMAG0483a.jpg
      IMAG0484.jpg
      IMAG0485.jpg

      Gateway figures:
      IMAG0486.jpg
      IMAG0487.jpg
      IMAG0488.jpg
      IMAG0490.jpg

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      • aquaproA aquapro

        If I disconnect orange wire (red marker on first sensor picture), sensor works fine.

        Sensor figures:
        IMAG0483a.jpg
        IMAG0484.jpg
        IMAG0485.jpg

        Gateway figures:
        IMAG0486.jpg
        IMAG0487.jpg
        IMAG0488.jpg
        IMAG0490.jpg

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        RJ_Make
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        wrote on last edited by
        #9

        @aquapro

        I think I would connected the radio directly to the breadboard pins next to the Arduino with new wiring.

        RJ_Make

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        • aquaproA Offline
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          @aquapro sagte:> Hi,

          I have tested 1000 times, wasted complete weekend. Rechecked with built up the wiring from scratch. Same Problem.
          Suppose I have swap the cables, which I doubt, why it works when I disconnect it completely?

          I have all the cables replaced, also new from different suppliers. I used the next pins on the Arduino. For the pictures I have to build something stretched to better overview.

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          • aquaproA aquapro

            @aquapro sagte:> Hi,

            I have tested 1000 times, wasted complete weekend. Rechecked with built up the wiring from scratch. Same Problem.
            Suppose I have swap the cables, which I doubt, why it works when I disconnect it completely?

            I have all the cables replaced, also new from different suppliers. I used the next pins on the Arduino. For the pictures I have to build something stretched to better overview.

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            RJ_Make
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            #11

            @aquapro
            So the pictures don't reflect the current wiring?

            RJ_Make

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            • aquaproA Offline
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              #12

              Pictures reflect the curren?t wiring! Same Problem with closer wiring

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              • aquaproA aquapro

                If I disconnect orange wire (red marker on first sensor picture), sensor works fine.

                Sensor figures:
                IMAG0483a.jpg
                IMAG0484.jpg
                IMAG0485.jpg

                Gateway figures:
                IMAG0486.jpg
                IMAG0487.jpg
                IMAG0488.jpg
                IMAG0490.jpg

                YveauxY Offline
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                Yveaux
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                #13

                @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

                Arduino     nRF24
                9           CE
                10          CSN
                13          SCK
                11          MOSI
                12          MISO
                2           IRQ
                

                These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

                Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • aquaproA aquapro

                  hello,
                  very good project!
                  I currently testing version 1.4b1 and I have a problem. Only if I disconnect the CE line on the sensor, the values ​​are transferred.
                  If the CE line is connected, only one part will be sent, see Figure 1, the LED on the sensor remains on. As soon as I disconnect CE line, all values ​​are not sent are transmitted (Figure 2) and the LED goes out and lights up briefly in the next transmission.

                  Does anyone have an idea?

                  greeting

                  aqua
                  1_4_test_1.PNG
                  Figure1

                  1_4_test_1b.PNG
                  Figure 2

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                  Damme
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                  wrote on last edited by Damme
                  #14

                  @aquapro Hmmmm
                  The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

                  edit:

                  maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
                  inverted CE?

                  nrf24L01-black.jpg

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                  • DammeD Damme

                    @aquapro Hmmmm
                    The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

                    edit:

                    maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
                    inverted CE?

                    nrf24L01-black.jpg

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                    Yveaux
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                    wrote on last edited by Yveaux
                    #15

                    @Damme Sharp observation, dude!

                    Have a look at these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-NRF24L01-wireless-data-transmission-module-NRF24L01-wireless-module/1996222121.html

                    Claimed to be nRF24L01+!!

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • DammeD Damme

                      @aquapro Hmmmm
                      The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

                      edit:

                      maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
                      inverted CE?

                      nrf24L01-black.jpg

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                      RJ_Make
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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @Damme
                      Nice Catch Indeed!

                      RJ_Make

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                      • YveauxY Yveaux

                        @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

                        Arduino     nRF24
                        9           CE
                        10          CSN
                        13          SCK
                        11          MOSI
                        12          MISO
                        2           IRQ
                        

                        These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

                        Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

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                        wrote on last edited by aquapro
                        #17

                        @Yveaux yes I checked wiring with (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio)
                        more detail picture, hope so. (bad light)
                        IMAG0491.jpg

                        IMAG0493.jpg

                        @Damme
                        Chip is covered.
                        IMAG0494.jpg

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                        • YveauxY Yveaux

                          @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

                          Arduino     nRF24
                          9           CE
                          10          CSN
                          13          SCK
                          11          MOSI
                          12          MISO
                          2           IRQ
                          

                          These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

                          Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                          aquaproA Offline
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                          aquapro
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @Yveaux

                          Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                          Pin 8?

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                          • aquaproA aquapro

                            @Yveaux

                            Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                            Pin 8?

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                            Mod
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @aquapro said:

                            Pin 8?

                            It looked like you could have a connection to pin 8, but apparently (in the better pictures) you haven't...

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            • aquaproA aquapro

                              @Yveaux

                              Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                              Pin 8?

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                              Damme
                              Code Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #20

                              @aquapro I dont think you got a nordic semiconductor nrf24l01, What I can find they are only in QFN package.
                              http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24L01

                              So the specs on that chip may be different. Maybe CE is inverted?

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                                #21

                                hm ... if CE inverted, ping sample should not work?! CE must switch between hight and low for TX and RX right? But Ping sample send and receive works.

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                                  #22

                                  Hi,

                                  I have bought the new modules (right on pic), which operate without modification. I simply swapped and all is fine.
                                  What do I do with the other. How can I test inverted.

                                  new.jpg

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                                  • aquaproA aquapro

                                    Hi,

                                    I have bought the new modules (right on pic), which operate without modification. I simply swapped and all is fine.
                                    What do I do with the other. How can I test inverted.

                                    new.jpg

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                                    hek
                                    Admin
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #23

                                    @aquapro

                                    I hope you didn't get the left one when purchasing through the links in the MySensors "store"?

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                                      #24

                                      I got the left one from other eb..-"store".

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                                        The left one works with MySensor-Coding, but only with disconnected CE line.

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                                          #26

                                          If it truly works correctly with CE disconnected, that could be an advantage when there is a shortage of pins (eg: 8 pin ATTiny).

                                          Have you achieved full operation without CE on the old modules?

                                          And did you leave CE floating or tie it high?

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