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  • aquaproA aquapro

    @aquapro sagte:> Hi,

    I have tested 1000 times, wasted complete weekend. Rechecked with built up the wiring from scratch. Same Problem.
    Suppose I have swap the cables, which I doubt, why it works when I disconnect it completely?

    I have all the cables replaced, also new from different suppliers. I used the next pins on the Arduino. For the pictures I have to build something stretched to better overview.

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    RJ_Make
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    @aquapro
    So the pictures don't reflect the current wiring?

    RJ_Make

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      Pictures reflect the curren?t wiring! Same Problem with closer wiring

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      • aquaproA aquapro

        If I disconnect orange wire (red marker on first sensor picture), sensor works fine.

        Sensor figures:
        IMAG0483a.jpg
        IMAG0484.jpg
        IMAG0485.jpg

        Gateway figures:
        IMAG0486.jpg
        IMAG0487.jpg
        IMAG0488.jpg
        IMAG0490.jpg

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        @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

        Arduino     nRF24
        9           CE
        10          CSN
        13          SCK
        11          MOSI
        12          MISO
        2           IRQ
        

        These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

        Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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        • aquaproA aquapro

          hello,
          very good project!
          I currently testing version 1.4b1 and I have a problem. Only if I disconnect the CE line on the sensor, the values ​​are transferred.
          If the CE line is connected, only one part will be sent, see Figure 1, the LED on the sensor remains on. As soon as I disconnect CE line, all values ​​are not sent are transmitted (Figure 2) and the LED goes out and lights up briefly in the next transmission.

          Does anyone have an idea?

          greeting

          aqua
          1_4_test_1.PNG
          Figure1

          1_4_test_1b.PNG
          Figure 2

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          @aquapro Hmmmm
          The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

          edit:

          maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
          inverted CE?

          nrf24L01-black.jpg

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          • DammeD Damme

            @aquapro Hmmmm
            The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

            edit:

            maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
            inverted CE?

            nrf24L01-black.jpg

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            #15

            @Damme Sharp observation, dude!

            Have a look at these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-NRF24L01-wireless-data-transmission-module-NRF24L01-wireless-module/1996222121.html

            Claimed to be nRF24L01+!!

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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            • DammeD Damme

              @aquapro Hmmmm
              The chip on your looks like a blob more than this; You might have gotten a chinese ripoff .. I dont remember the chip name... Hmmmm hard to see!

              edit:

              maybe : http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/300/rfm73-experience/ ?
              inverted CE?

              nrf24L01-black.jpg

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              @Damme
              Nice Catch Indeed!

              RJ_Make

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

                Arduino     nRF24
                9           CE
                10          CSN
                13          SCK
                11          MOSI
                12          MISO
                2           IRQ
                

                These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

                Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

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                #17

                @Yveaux yes I checked wiring with (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio)
                more detail picture, hope so. (bad light)
                IMAG0491.jpg

                IMAG0493.jpg

                @Damme
                Chip is covered.
                IMAG0494.jpg

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @aquapro The MySensors site (http://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio) gives the following wiring:

                  Arduino     nRF24
                  9           CE
                  10          CSN
                  13          SCK
                  11          MOSI
                  12          MISO
                  2           IRQ
                  

                  These are the defaults for the library. CE & CSN you can adapt through the constructor of MySensor (did you do that?)

                  Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

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                  #18

                  @Yveaux

                  Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                  Pin 8?

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                  • aquaproA aquapro

                    @Yveaux

                    Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                    Pin 8?

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                    @aquapro said:

                    Pin 8?

                    It looked like you could have a connection to pin 8, but apparently (in the better pictures) you haven't...

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • aquaproA aquapro

                      @Yveaux

                      Looking at the pictures I have a hard time figuring out the connections for pins 8..12, while these are just the interesting part...

                      Pin 8?

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                      @aquapro I dont think you got a nordic semiconductor nrf24l01, What I can find they are only in QFN package.
                      http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24L01

                      So the specs on that chip may be different. Maybe CE is inverted?

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                        hm ... if CE inverted, ping sample should not work?! CE must switch between hight and low for TX and RX right? But Ping sample send and receive works.

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                          #22

                          Hi,

                          I have bought the new modules (right on pic), which operate without modification. I simply swapped and all is fine.
                          What do I do with the other. How can I test inverted.

                          new.jpg

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                          • aquaproA aquapro

                            Hi,

                            I have bought the new modules (right on pic), which operate without modification. I simply swapped and all is fine.
                            What do I do with the other. How can I test inverted.

                            new.jpg

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                            @aquapro

                            I hope you didn't get the left one when purchasing through the links in the MySensors "store"?

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                              I got the left one from other eb..-"store".

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                                The left one works with MySensor-Coding, but only with disconnected CE line.

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                                  If it truly works correctly with CE disconnected, that could be an advantage when there is a shortage of pins (eg: 8 pin ATTiny).

                                  Have you achieved full operation without CE on the old modules?

                                  And did you leave CE floating or tie it high?

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                                    I still see no difference when CE is disconnected.Only it as work at all.

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                                      What vendor did you use to get the "no CE needed" variants? That could be useful to test.

                                      I'm assuming that the nRF24L01+ doesn't work without CE connected, right?

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                                        Eb.. no. 360917673897 vendor "liuddndd2009"

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