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  • keldandorinK keldandorin

    @sundberg84 Is there any way to say if booster is a bad one or not before ordering them?
    The one I ordered was the one on shoping list from aliexpress. Will try I capacitator and see if I can get a new booster from kjell&Comany tomorrow just to try. Build a setup on bread bord where I powered radio with 2 AA and got the same result. Got a fju places where I like to put some sensors with no power so realy need to get this working :). Could the radiomodules be bad to?

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    sundberg84
    Hardware Contributor
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    #430

    @keldandorin - could be a weak clone radio yes.
    Just to get your hopes up, I got booster driven nodes all around the place with Nrf24l01+ radio and they works great!
    I change battery every 1-1.5 years but as I said, the experience is that the radio - booster needs a good teamwork :)

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      @keldandorin - could be a weak clone radio yes.
      Just to get your hopes up, I got booster driven nodes all around the place with Nrf24l01+ radio and they works great!
      I change battery every 1-1.5 years but as I said, the experience is that the radio - booster needs a good teamwork :)

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      keldandorin
      wrote on last edited by keldandorin
      #431

      @sundberg84 Sounds good, Thats what I'm looking for. Have never worked with tinkers like this befor so everything is new. But this place is great thx for taking time.

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        #432

        Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

        Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

        Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

        :)


        A complete rookie! Love this stuff! My path: Domoticz/Zwave and now a big MySensors-fan! :)

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        • pellusfromtellusP pellusfromtellus

          Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

          Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

          Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

          :)

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          sundberg84
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          #433

          @pellusfromtellus - to get a 100% right answer we ping @hek but I recommend paypal!

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • hekH Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
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            @pellusfromtellus

            I think most of them handle paypal/card. You can press the "Order" button to find out. Nothing is binding until payment has been done.

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            • Paul RobertsonP Offline
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              #435

              Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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              • Paul RobertsonP Paul Robertson

                Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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                sundberg84
                Hardware Contributor
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                #436

                @Paul-Robertson - hi!
                Yes, but this is Eagles output gerber files.

                Drill: SundbergMys9.TXT
                Outline can be found in all other files:

                https://www.pcbway.com/project/share/How_to_generate_Gerber_from_Eagle.html

                0_1505990995661_upload-c5e3c1d3-3dfb-46dc-9e10-e2d5dbfaca0d

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • sinczeS Offline
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                  sincze
                  MySensors Evangelist
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                  #437

                  Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                  • sinczeS sincze

                    Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                      #439

                      IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                      Thanks!!

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                        gohan
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                        If you want to use a lipo battery, you need a voltage regulator

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                        • H hiddenuser

                          IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                          Thanks!!

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                          sundberg84
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                          #441

                          @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          • sundberg84S sundberg84

                            @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

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                            @sundberg84 that tp4056 outputs just the lipo battery voltage

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                              #443

                              Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                              I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

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                                Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                                0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                                #444

                                @hiddenuser - well, what would a battery measurer be if it reported a constant 3.3v boosted voltage? ;)
                                It all depends on how everything is connected (pictures?) but if you have connected it as battery instryctions the radio and voltage divider that measured the incoming battery are not a part of the booster circuit. This to prevent noice to the radio and to be able to actually measure the battery voltage and not step-up voltage which is the idea behind the board.

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                • H hiddenuser

                                  Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                  I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                                  0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                                  gohan
                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #445

                                  @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                                    dakipro
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                                    #446

                                    hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
                                    I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

                                    C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                                    GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                                    GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                                      @sundberg84 interesting question...or maybe stupid question not sure...

                                      i have a tonn of 3v pro mini's but im thinking of mains powering some for motion sensors.... would i set it up as battery, and then just use a voltage regulator on where the step up usually would be? or is there a better way to handle it?

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                                        gohan
                                        Mod
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                                        #448

                                        there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                                          #449

                                          ahhh thats cool... so use regulated instead and it will pull down the voltage for antenna over that side
                                          ...and the board can handle the voltage anyway so it should be fine....

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