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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • pellusfromtellusP Offline
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    #432

    Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

    Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

    Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

    :)


    A complete rookie! Love this stuff! My path: Domoticz/Zwave and now a big MySensors-fan! :)

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    • pellusfromtellusP pellusfromtellus

      Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

      Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

      Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

      :)

      sundberg84S Offline
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      sundberg84
      Hardware Contributor
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      #433

      @pellusfromtellus - to get a 100% right answer we ping @hek but I recommend paypal!

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      • hekH Online
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        #434

        @pellusfromtellus

        I think most of them handle paypal/card. You can press the "Order" button to find out. Nothing is binding until payment has been done.

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        • Paul RobertsonP Offline
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          #435

          Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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          • Paul RobertsonP Paul Robertson

            Is there a drilling and outline file available?

            sundberg84S Offline
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            sundberg84
            Hardware Contributor
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            #436

            @Paul-Robertson - hi!
            Yes, but this is Eagles output gerber files.

            Drill: SundbergMys9.TXT
            Outline can be found in all other files:

            https://www.pcbway.com/project/share/How_to_generate_Gerber_from_Eagle.html

            0_1505990995661_upload-c5e3c1d3-3dfb-46dc-9e10-e2d5dbfaca0d

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • sinczeS Offline
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              sincze
              MySensors Evangelist
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              #437

              Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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              • sinczeS sincze

                Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                  hiddenuser
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                  #439

                  IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                  Thanks!!

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                  • gohanG Offline
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                    #440

                    If you want to use a lipo battery, you need a voltage regulator

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                    • H hiddenuser

                      IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                      Thanks!!

                      sundberg84S Offline
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                      sundberg84
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                      #441

                      @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                        @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

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                        @sundberg84 that tp4056 outputs just the lipo battery voltage

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                          #443

                          Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                          I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                          0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                            Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                            I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                            0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                            #444

                            @hiddenuser - well, what would a battery measurer be if it reported a constant 3.3v boosted voltage? ;)
                            It all depends on how everything is connected (pictures?) but if you have connected it as battery instryctions the radio and voltage divider that measured the incoming battery are not a part of the booster circuit. This to prevent noice to the radio and to be able to actually measure the battery voltage and not step-up voltage which is the idea behind the board.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            • H hiddenuser

                              Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                              I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                              0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

                              gohanG Offline
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                              gohan
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #445

                              @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                                dakipro
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                                #446

                                hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
                                I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

                                C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                                GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                                GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                                  #447

                                  @sundberg84 interesting question...or maybe stupid question not sure...

                                  i have a tonn of 3v pro mini's but im thinking of mains powering some for motion sensors.... would i set it up as battery, and then just use a voltage regulator on where the step up usually would be? or is there a better way to handle it?

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                                  • gohanG Offline
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                                    gohan
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                                    #448

                                    there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                                      #449

                                      ahhh thats cool... so use regulated instead and it will pull down the voltage for antenna over that side
                                      ...and the board can handle the voltage anyway so it should be fine....

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                                      • gohanG gohan

                                        there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                                        #450

                                        @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                                        @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                                        https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                                        Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                                        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                          @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                                          @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                                          https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                                          Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                                          gohan
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                                          @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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