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  • sundberg84S Offline
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    #5

    A working capacitor does not drain batterypower once charged. Is there one built in the sensebender? If not you should use one.

    It's a range or power issue. Try moving it closer or further away from the gw. If it's the range you might need a repeater.

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      A working capacitor does not drain batterypower once charged. Is there one built in the sensebender? If not you should use one.

      It's a range or power issue. Try moving it closer or further away from the gw. If it's the range you might need a repeater.

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      @sundberg84 The Sensebender does not have a capacitor, other than bypass.
      Not a range issue either, close or further away does not make a difference.

      It's pretty consistent with the st=fail debug output.

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        What was the result when you added a capacitor?

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          @tcontrada Do you use signing? What is the range of distances you tried. A couple of weeks ago I had to realize that if put my nodes to near to each other I received transmission failures.

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          • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

            What was the result when you added a capacitor?

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            @mfalkvidd The bypass caps are already installed on the PCB.
            The SenseBender Micro runs off 2 AA batteries and there is no extra cap on it (that was the design).

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              @tcontrada Do you use signing? What is the range of distances you tried. A couple of weeks ago I had to realize that if put my nodes to near to each other I received transmission failures.

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              @tomkxy No signing on my modules...

              Distance from a few feet to 20, 50, 100 ft. All yield the same result.

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                Did you try different radios? Anyway, I would try to solder a cap on the radio.

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                  Yes, the built-in capacitor on the sensebender should be sufficient. Sorry.

                  Have you tried switching the radio with one you know works?

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                    #13

                    I had a lot of fails on the Sensebender I've installed, and I noticed that I got better transmission when holding the pcb. I then tested to put some aluminium foil with plastic wrap for insulation between the backside of the pcb radio antenna and the Sensbender pcb. This was a winner.

                    There's been a lot of discussion about possible interference from the FTDI 6 pin metal header. I haven't tested my setup without the header or with the header positioned differently, but that's one suspect on my list of culprits.

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                    • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

                      I had a lot of fails on the Sensebender I've installed, and I noticed that I got better transmission when holding the pcb. I then tested to put some aluminium foil with plastic wrap for insulation between the backside of the pcb radio antenna and the Sensbender pcb. This was a winner.

                      There's been a lot of discussion about possible interference from the FTDI 6 pin metal header. I haven't tested my setup without the header or with the header positioned differently, but that's one suspect on my list of culprits.

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                      @martinhjelmare I think you might be on to something, as I have noticed that other microcontroller modules point the antenna away from the PCB, where as the Sensebender and RF module are overlapping.

                      I will investigate by adding jumper wires from the SenseBender and the RF module to add some separation.

                      Thanks...

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