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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)

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  • sundberg84S Offline
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    sundberg84
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    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @AdamAnt - I have created the myself i think.
    Silkscreenm do you mean the name? "Fuse". If you change the name on the component it will change.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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    • tonnerre33T Offline
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      tonnerre33
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      #6

      Hi, it's a great project !! how can i make this PCB ? Do you know a site url to make this ?

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      • sundberg84S Offline
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        sundberg84
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        #7

        @tonnerre33 - im a couple of days from recieving the board (second try). I will asemble it with instructions and release the files.

        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        • sundberg84S Offline
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          sundberg84
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          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          I received my boards today. Away for a week but will assemble, test and release files asap.

          0_1468246194526_20160711_160848.jpg

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • gusG Offline
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            #9

            Looks really promising!!
            This is exactly what I lookin for.
            The safety concerns in this project is right on target!

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            • sundberg84S Offline
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              sundberg84
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              wrote on last edited by sundberg84
              #10

              I have a small update so you know this isn't dead. Still much irl to do and cant find enough time at the moment but... the 5v side with the Mysensors time aware sketch works great.

              0_1469203295071_20160722_175842.jpg

              Some small changes was made to the schematics but nothing major. Next upp is 240v av side that needshe to be tested and then the relay.

              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              • gusG Offline
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                #11

                @sundberg84 yes, irl can be tough 😊
                I'll be watching your project, keep up!

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                • sundberg84S Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                  #12

                  Everything is moving along slowly... :)

                  Today i tested the relay function, the AC - DC (HLK) and if everything fitted inside the 3d box.

                  Found some issues with the relay... it opens ok, but I cant close it again so the relay remains open... I need to figure out (or ask) if there is something wrong with my schematics or if the relay I used was bad.

                  Also I have to add some mm on the 3dbox in the holes for the relay and HLK.

                  0_1470155716207_1.jpg

                  I have uploaded some images and the eaglesfiles - but I would not recommend to create any pcbs yet - im not satisfied with the result and things will change on the layout and other.

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    sundberg84
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                    #13

                    Updated the 3dbox with some variants...
                    From left...
                    Box with access to MysX Connector
                    Box wthout any access to inside (except AC screw terminal)
                    Box with hole for a g3mc-202 relay and no other access.
                    0_1471547221319_1.jpg

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      #14

                      I hope to add a stl 3d viewer soon.. starting to get a grip on three.js :).

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                      • vladimirV Offline
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                        vladimir
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                        #15

                        Hello. Please write size of the device in the box.

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                        • sundberg84S Offline
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                          sundberg84
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          @vladimir The PCB is 50x36 cm.

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            #17

                            @sundberg84 Please tell me, how you can connect a maximum output devices into an outlet controlled by the relay? As I understand it, it will not sustain even the kettle?
                            I apologize in advance for the stupid question, I'm not good at electronics.

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                              wrote on last edited by Chester
                              #18

                              @vladimir , you are correct, in that you can only connect a load that is less than the rating of the relay's, or you can cause damage. Realistically what you would do is use this unit for lighting where the load required can be calculated and won't really change, or if you were using it for a switch, you would need to have some kind of labelling noting that it was only for a maxmium xxxW output.

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                                wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                #19

                                @vladimir - yep, and for protection there is a fuse.
                                Maximum for the G3MC-202PL is 2 A at 100 to 240 VAC

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  Cool design! Could you post the dimensions including box and relay?
                                  I understand one can update firmware through the MYSX connector?

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                                  • ragflyerR ragflyer

                                    Cool design! Could you post the dimensions including box and relay?
                                    I understand one can update firmware through the MYSX connector?

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                                    sundberg84
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                                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                    #21

                                    @ragflyer - Thank you!

                                    I suggest using the ISCP to update firmware. There isnt any DTR (to reset) on the MysX (this design - its coming next revision).
                                    The box is 56mm wide and 43mm deep and the height is 24.6mm
                                    Uncluding the SSR relay sticking out its 29mm height.

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      #22

                                      Hi sundberg84,
                                      what's the status of this great project? can I produce the PCB? I want use this for sopstitute my current X10 plant based on around 20 micro module.
                                      only one question, I need to control light also by a traditional switch (momentary button) where a can connect the normal switch, A1 or A2 to GND is OK? in my case can be lot of distance from the node to switch, in some case more them 4 meters and the wire for control switch run in a same pipe to grid linee, can this plant create interference? what do you think to insert one optical cupolaed?
                                      Thanks..
                                      MArco

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                                      • fra290F fra290

                                        Hi sundberg84,
                                        what's the status of this great project? can I produce the PCB? I want use this for sopstitute my current X10 plant based on around 20 micro module.
                                        only one question, I need to control light also by a traditional switch (momentary button) where a can connect the normal switch, A1 or A2 to GND is OK? in my case can be lot of distance from the node to switch, in some case more them 4 meters and the wire for control switch run in a same pipe to grid linee, can this plant create interference? what do you think to insert one optical cupolaed?
                                        Thanks..
                                        MArco

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                                        sundberg84
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @fra290 - Hi!
                                        Status is that I have just received the updated new PCB and are planning to test them... but havent had the time.
                                        I have updated openhardware.io with 7.1 which is the latest and the one im testing.

                                        You can download the gerber or eagles files and manufacture.
                                        I have also made a request for the pcbhouses to add 7.1 so you can buy them from openhardware.io

                                        Its small revisions and I dont think there should be any major issues with 7.1

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                          #24

                                          @sundberg84 Thanks for sharing this. I'm gathering the components and plan to build it soon when the PCB v7.1 is available.

                                          I do have a few questions if I may

                                          • with the Relay, is it important to have one that has zero crossover? E.g the difference between getting the G3MC-202PL over a G3MC-202P
                                          • what were you planning to use the 16Mhz oscillator for eventually?
                                          • do you see any issues if I build the first prototype using an ESP-12 (ESP8266 with onboard Serial WiFi running at 3.3v)?
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