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EasyPCB and RFM69 Issues

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  • R Ryanmt

    I'll try removing that then, they are especially cheap capacitor's..

    The sma antenna is https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F171802359586

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    @Ryanmt hard to say exactly. Can you see any try/log in the gw when you get no reply in the node log?

    As seen in the Nrf version that radio is very sensitive to noice and those boosters can be really crappy some times. I have working nodes with boosters but it's somewhat untested for me how sensitive rfm radios are. You could desolder the booster and wire Vin and Vout to rule the booster out.

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    • R Ryanmt

      I'll try removing that then, they are especially cheap capacitor's..

      The sma antenna is https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F171802359586

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      @Ryanmt also in the first picture you power everything from the ftdi. I'm not sure that works so well. The pcb is designed to be powered from the power input.

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        @Ryanmt also in the first picture you power everything from the ftdi. I'm not sure that works so well. The pcb is designed to be powered from the power input.

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        @sundberg84 I did think that so have tried it both ways and neither work. Both get a steady 3.3v at transceiver

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @Ryanmt also in the first picture you power everything from the ftdi. I'm not sure that works so well. The pcb is designed to be powered from the power input.

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            @sundberg84 I've been powering my node for the antenna tests via ftdi and it was working fine, but it was actually using 10% of the TX power.

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              Ok then... good to know.
              Let's continue... How about my questions above ?

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              • R Ryanmt

                I'll try removing that then, they are especially cheap capacitor's..

                The sma antenna is https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F171802359586

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                @Ryanmt did you test if those sma antennas perform better than wire antenna?

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                  Thanks for the replies guys.

                  • The GW says nothing which to me indicates no TX from the sensors are reaching the gateway.
                  • I have powered from both FTDI and battery, my breadboard sensor works when powered from either FTDI or the battery + booster (same model)

                  Currently I can say the range for both SMA and the wound antenna is poor since neither work :-P My intention is for these to be long range as they will be at the bottom of the garden... when I get them up and running Ill try do some proper range tests and provide feedback if you are interested.

                  I sadly don’t own an oscilloscope, I would love to verify if the sensors are actually attempting to broadcast in anyway but I’m not sure I can do that with just a meter?

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                    Try what I wrote in my first post and get back with the results.

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                    • R Ryanmt

                      Thanks for the replies guys.

                      • The GW says nothing which to me indicates no TX from the sensors are reaching the gateway.
                      • I have powered from both FTDI and battery, my breadboard sensor works when powered from either FTDI or the battery + booster (same model)

                      Currently I can say the range for both SMA and the wound antenna is poor since neither work :-P My intention is for these to be long range as they will be at the bottom of the garden... when I get them up and running Ill try do some proper range tests and provide feedback if you are interested.

                      I sadly don’t own an oscilloscope, I would love to verify if the sensors are actually attempting to broadcast in anyway but I’m not sure I can do that with just a meter?

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                      @Ryanmt - so, do I understand you correctly?
                      Exactly the same hardware/hardware-setup (incl antenna) & software works on the breadboard with that gateway - but when you solder them to the PCB it stops working?

                      If so there are these options:

                      • You have made some soldering mistake (created a short.) (The solder-job looks really good on the images though...)
                      • The PCB you are using has some sort of manufacturing error.
                      • The antenna (length) needs to be changed on the PCB vs the breadboard setup.

                      I would set my multimeter into continuity and measure all lines, ie from radio -> mcu. Also measure continuity between all solder points next to each other on the radio(to make sure you dont have any shorts). Next thing would be to test different length on the antenna. You can also compare the PCB traces to the images on openhardware.io

                      The sketch is just the example battery sketch with the RFM69 module enabled

                      Could you also post the sketch you are using? (The standard sketch does not include the H def but i guess you added that)

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