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Watchdog on Ethernet Gateway

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  • axillentA axillent

    @BulldogLowell setting watchdog to timeout after 8 seconds can support you in most situations without a need to dig into library source

    But you will be not guaranteed from all cases, it is possible that your arduino will be reset in normal situation where reset is not needed. But actually the same will happen if you will attach external watchdog as you state in you first post here

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    @axillent said:

    But you will be not guaranteed from all cases, it is possible that your arduino will be reset in normal situation where reset is not needed. But actually the same will happen if you will attach external watchdog as you state in you first post here

    I have a lot more flexibility with hardware, i believe.... there is an (8s) limit on the Atmel watchdog, no?

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    • BulldogLowellB BulldogLowell

      @axillent said:

      But you will be not guaranteed from all cases, it is possible that your arduino will be reset in normal situation where reset is not needed. But actually the same will happen if you will attach external watchdog as you state in you first post here

      I have a lot more flexibility with hardware, i believe.... there is an (8s) limit on the Atmel watchdog, no?

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      @BulldogLowell said:

      I have a lot more flexibility with hardware, i believe.... there is an (8s) limit on the Atmel watchdog, no?

      it is a limit of atmega328, other MCU can differ

      but it is still possible to organize longer period by activating WDT ISR handler
      this will be not the best practice but it will work
      the best practice is to set very short timeout and to put wdt_reset() at all required points

      sense and drive

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        What happens with watchdog while sleeping?

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        • hekH hek

          What happens with watchdog while sleeping?

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          @hek said:

          What happens with watchdog while sleeping?

          it depends on what do you want :)
          if i'm not mistaken LowPower library you are using is using watchdog while sleeping
          actually watchdog is only one timer running while POWER_DOWN
          it is a common way to wake up because of watchdog event from the deepest sleep if you need to wake up by time, not by external event

          sense and drive

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            Hi, i would be interested in any more updates along this line. In my case my gateway is mostly stable as far as i can tell. several weeks without issues. My problem is that most of my nodes seem to lockup, so i would be totally interested in making them more robust either by software or if necessary with external chip as overlord watchdog

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            • BulldogLowellB BulldogLowell

              @axillent said:

              But you will be not guaranteed from all cases, it is possible that your arduino will be reset in normal situation where reset is not needed. But actually the same will happen if you will attach external watchdog as you state in you first post here

              I have a lot more flexibility with hardware, i believe.... there is an (8s) limit on the Atmel watchdog, no?

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              @BulldogLowell Any progress on this? My Ethernet gateway is quite reliable after solving power supply issues and implementing soft spi. But about once a month it stops and rebooting it makes it operative again. The failure seems to be periodic--once a month. May be a clue there--something reaching a limit? At any rate, any failure rate where I can't start it up without physically rebooting is too much.

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                millis() has a rollover after approximately 50 days. Could that be something?

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                • M maha

                  millis() has a rollover after approximately 50 days. Could that be something?

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                  @maha Don't know. But your question did trigger the thought of using milils() to periodically trigger a reboot. Rather than check for a lockup with a watchdog routine I may try just rebooting it at a shorter time interval, e.g., every 2 weeks, than I have experienced the lockups using millis to measure the interval.

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                    Added a 8 sec Watchdog to my ethernet gateway and it's up and running now. Time will tell if it cures the occaisional lockups by automatically resetting. Will report back the results

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                      FYI: Watchdog reset is automatically called by process() nowadays in the development-branch.

                      https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/development/libraries/MySensors/MySensor.cpp#L509

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                      • hekH hek

                        FYI: Watchdog reset is automatically called by process() nowadays in the development-branch.

                        https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/development/libraries/MySensors/MySensor.cpp#L509

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                        @hek I assume this is with the intent to allow a watchdog reset on sensor sketches in the future, but does not apply to the Ethernet gateway sketch?

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                        • hekH hek

                          FYI: Watchdog reset is automatically called by process() nowadays in the development-branch.

                          https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/development/libraries/MySensors/MySensor.cpp#L509

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                          @hek Please disregard my prior message. I looked further and see that the watchdog reset is part of the sensor wait routine and is in the current 1.4 version of MySensors.cpp

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                            It's been over 6 weeks since I added an 8 sec watchdog to my Ethernet gateway (to Vera) and have not had to reboot the gateway since then. Before adding the watchdog, the most it ever lasted before without rebooting was 4 weeks. So for now I have to assume that the watchdog is doing its job and automatically restoring the gateway. If so, then it is providing the gateway dependability that I wanted. Time will tell.

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                            • Dan S.D Dan S.

                              It's been over 6 weeks since I added an 8 sec watchdog to my Ethernet gateway (to Vera) and have not had to reboot the gateway since then. Before adding the watchdog, the most it ever lasted before without rebooting was 4 weeks. So for now I have to assume that the watchdog is doing its job and automatically restoring the gateway. If so, then it is providing the gateway dependability that I wanted. Time will tell.

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                              @Dan-S.

                              great news, thanks for the update!

                              can you share how you set it up? Are you using the stock gateway code?

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                              • BulldogLowellB BulldogLowell

                                @Dan-S.

                                great news, thanks for the update!

                                can you share how you set it up? Are you using the stock gateway code?

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                                @BulldogLowell

                                I got my basic info and code for a watchdog timer from a pdf by Nicolas Larson titled "Basic Watchdog Timer" at this site:

                                http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.arduino.cc%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D63651.0%3Battach%3D3585&ei=lc6ZVYiiM8PigwTVx4HYCQ&usg=AFQjCNEBfr1yZ_g44GdxaNVmH4zKyTz3nA&bvm=bv.96952980,d.eXY

                                Yes, I am using the stock gateway code with the watchdog code outlined in the pdf added. His code includes a lot of details in the setup that can probably be streamlined but I liked operating at the elementary level to better see what is going on.

                                Will post the whole gateway sketch. What's the best way to go about posting it?

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                                  @BulldogLowell

                                  I got my basic info and code for a watchdog timer from a pdf by Nicolas Larson titled "Basic Watchdog Timer" at this site:

                                  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.arduino.cc%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D63651.0%3Battach%3D3585&ei=lc6ZVYiiM8PigwTVx4HYCQ&usg=AFQjCNEBfr1yZ_g44GdxaNVmH4zKyTz3nA&bvm=bv.96952980,d.eXY

                                  Yes, I am using the stock gateway code with the watchdog code outlined in the pdf added. His code includes a lot of details in the setup that can probably be streamlined but I liked operating at the elementary level to better see what is going on.

                                  Will post the whole gateway sketch. What's the best way to go about posting it?

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                                  @Dan-S. To insert code on the forum, use the </> button above the 'compose box'.

                                  Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                                  • BulldogLowellB BulldogLowell

                                    @Dan-S.

                                    great news, thanks for the update!

                                    can you share how you set it up? Are you using the stock gateway code?

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                                    @BulldogLowell
                                    Here's the code. Should be the same as standard except that I didn't use ip address input.

                                    In
                                    /*
                                     * Copyright (C) 2013 Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@gmail.com>
                                     * 
                                     * Contribution by a-lurker
                                     *
                                     * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                                     * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                                     * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                                     * 
                                     * DESCRIPTION
                                     * The EthernetGateway sends data received from sensors to the ethernet link. 
                                     * The gateway also accepts input on ethernet interface, which is then sent out to the radio network.
                                     *
                                     * The GW code is designed for Arduino 328p / 16MHz.  ATmega168 does not have enough memory to run this program.
                                     * 
                                     *
                                     * COMPILING WIZNET (W5100) ETHERNET MODULE
                                     * > Edit RF24_config.h in (libraries\MySensors\utility) to enable softspi (remove // before "#define SOFTSPI").
                                     *
                                     * COMPILING ENC28J60 ETHERNET MODULE
                                     * > Use Arduino IDE 1.5.7 (or later) 
                                     * > Disable DEBUG in Sensor.h before compiling this sketch. Othervise the sketch will probably not fit in program space when downloading. 
                                     * > Remove Ethernet.h include below and include UIPEthernet.h 
                                     * > Remove DigitalIO include 
                                     * Note that I had to disable UDP and DHCP support in uipethernet-conf.h to reduce space. (which means you have to choose a static IP for that module)
                                     *
                                     * VERA CONFIGURATION:
                                     * Enter "ip-number:port" in the ip-field of the Arduino GW device. This will temporarily override any serial configuration for the Vera plugin. 
                                     * E.g. If you want to use the defualt values in this sketch enter: 192.168.178.66:5003
                                     *
                                     * LED purposes:
                                     * - RX (green) - blink fast on radio message recieved. In inclusion mode will blink fast only on presentation recieved
                                     * - TX (yellow) - blink fast on radio message transmitted. In inclusion mode will blink slowly
                                     * - ERR (red) - fast blink on error during transmission error or recieve crc error  
                                     * 
                                     * See http://www.mysensors.org/build/ethernet_gateway for wiring instructions.
                                     *
                                     */
                                    
                                    #include <DigitalIO.h>     // This include can be removed when using UIPEthernet module  
                                    #include <SPI.h>  
                                    #include <MySensor.h>
                                    #include <MyGateway.h>  
                                    #include <stdarg.h>
                                    
                                    //watchdog version of gateway
                                    #include <avr/wdt.h>
                                    
                                    // Use this if you have attached a Ethernet ENC28J60 shields  
                                    //#include <UIPEthernet.h>  
                                    
                                    // Use this fo WizNET W5100 module and Arduino Ethernet Shield 
                                    #include <Ethernet.h>   
                                    
                                    
                                    #define INCLUSION_MODE_TIME 1 // Number of minutes inclusion mode is enabled
                                    #define INCLUSION_MODE_PIN  3 // Digital pin used for inclusion mode button
                                    
                                    #define RADIO_CE_PIN        5  // radio chip enable
                                    #define RADIO_SPI_SS_PIN    6  // radio SPI serial select
                                    #define RADIO_ERROR_LED_PIN 7  // Error led pin
                                    #define RADIO_RX_LED_PIN    8  // Receive led pin
                                    #define RADIO_TX_LED_PIN    9  // the PCB, on board LED
                                    
                                    #define IP_PORT 5003        // The port you want to open 
                                    //IPAddress myIp (192, 168, 1, 14);  // Configure your static ip-address here    COMPILE ERROR HERE? Use Arduino IDE 1.5.7 or later!
                                    // Commented out IPAddress to use DHCP router assigned address, Cannot check program with serial monitor with this
                                    //since the DHCP address will not be available till plugged into ethernet.
                                    // The MAC address can be anything you want but should be unique on your network.
                                    // Newer boards have a MAC address printed on the underside of the PCB, which you can (optionally) use.
                                    // Note that most of the Ardunio examples use  "DEAD BEEF FEED" for the MAC address.
                                    byte mac[] = { 0x00, 0xAA, 0xBB, 0xCC, 0xDE, 0x02 };  
                                    
                                    // a R/W server on the port
                                    EthernetServer server = EthernetServer(IP_PORT);
                                    
                                    // No blink or button functionality. Use the vanilla constructor.
                                    MyGateway gw(RADIO_CE_PIN, RADIO_SPI_SS_PIN, INCLUSION_MODE_TIME);
                                    
                                    // Uncomment this constructor if you have leds and include button attached to your gateway 
                                    //MyGateway gw(RADIO_CE_PIN, RADIO_SPI_SS_PIN, INCLUSION_MODE_TIME, INCLUSION_MODE_PIN, RADIO_RX_LED_PIN, RADIO_TX_LED_PIN, RADIO_ERROR_LED_PIN);
                                    
                                    
                                    char inputString[MAX_RECEIVE_LENGTH] = "";    // A string to hold incoming commands from serial/ethernet interface
                                    int inputPos = 0;
                                    
                                    void setup()  
                                    { 
                                      Ethernet.begin(mac);
                                    
                                      // give the Ethernet interface a second to initialize
                                      delay(1000);
                                    
                                      // Initialize gateway at maximum PA level, channel 70 and callback for write operations 
                                      gw.begin(RF24_PA_LEVEL_GW, RF24_CHANNEL, RF24_DATARATE, writeEthernet);
                                    
                                      // start listening for clients
                                      server.begin();
                                      
                                      //set the watchdog
                                      watchdogSetup();
                                      
                                    }
                                    
                                    // This will be called when data should be written to ethernet 
                                    void writeEthernet(char *writeBuffer) {
                                      server.write(writeBuffer);
                                    }
                                    
                                    //WatchDog setup function
                                    void watchdogSetup(void)
                                    {
                                    cli();
                                    wdt_reset();
                                    /*
                                    WDTCSR configuration:
                                    WDIE = 1: Interrupt Enable
                                    WDE = 1 :Reset Enable
                                    
                                    WDP3 = 1 :For 8000ms Time-out
                                    WDP2 = 0 :For 8000ms Time-out
                                    WDP1 = 0 :For 8000ms Time-out
                                    WDP0 = 1 :For 8000ms Time-out
                                    */
                                    // Enter Watchdog Configuration mode:
                                    WDTCSR |= (1<<WDCE) | (1<<WDE);
                                    // Set Watchdog settings:
                                    
                                    //no interrupt, reset enable
                                    WDTCSR = (0<<WDIE) | (1<<WDE) |
                                    
                                    //8 second timer
                                    (1<<WDP3) | (0<<WDP2) | (0<<WDP1) |
                                    (1<<WDP0);
                                    sei();
                                    }
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    void loop()
                                    {
                                      // if an incoming client connects, there will be
                                      // bytes available to read via the client object
                                      EthernetClient client = server.available();
                                    
                                      if (client) {
                                          // if got 1 or more bytes
                                          if (client.available()) {
                                             // read the bytes incoming from the client
                                             char inChar = client.read();
                                    
                                             if (inputPos<MAX_RECEIVE_LENGTH-1) { 
                                               // if newline then command is complete
                                               if (inChar == '\n') {  
                                                  // a command was issued by the client
                                                  // we will now try to send it to the actuator
                                                  inputString[inputPos] = 0;
                                    
                                                  // echo the string to the serial port
                                                  Serial.print(inputString);
                                    
                                                  gw.parseAndSend(inputString);
                                    
                                                  // clear the string:
                                                  inputPos = 0;
                                               } else {  
                                                 // add it to the inputString:
                                                 inputString[inputPos] = inChar;
                                                 inputPos++;
                                               }
                                            } else {
                                               // Incoming message too long. Throw away 
                                               inputPos = 0;
                                            }
                                          }
                                       }  
                                       gw.processRadioMessage();  
                                     //reset watchdog
                                     wdt_reset();  
                                    }
                                    
                                    `
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                                      Would not recommend adding the watchdog until you have a relatively stable gateway, e.g. you have addressed any power/radio issues etc. Otherwise you will have the watchdog constantly tripping in response to issues that are best addressed by other means, i.e., proper troubleshooting.

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                                        FWIW, I've also experienced rare intermittent lockups on a clone Mega2560 with a clone ethernet shield. By rare I mean an interval between lockups of anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months, with a median of around 4 months. i.e. It happens, but not very frequently, and so far I haven't seen a pattern to it.

                                        Does the arduino's stock brownout protection circuit protect against all possible brownout scenarios, or just some of them? Anyone happen to know? Because I don't know the answer, the next step for me is to put it on a UPS to see if it makes any difference.

                                        If your arduino is powered via USB, then my impression is the arduino gives you no additional protection against voltage spikes. Most USB power sources are buck converters. Do buck converters alone typically do well at flattening voltage spikes, or would you need to add a voltage regulator to ensure all voltage spikes get flattened out? Anyone happen to know? Depending on the answer, it may be reason to power through the barrel jack, which goes through the onboard voltage regulator, rather than through the USB.

                                        Regarding use of the built-in watchdog protection, is there a possible brownout/spike scenario that could defeat the watchdog protection in addition to wedge the regular program loop? Or is the watchdog bulletproof in that regard?

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                                          FWIW, I've also experienced rare intermittent lockups on a clone Mega2560 with a clone ethernet shield. By rare I mean an interval between lockups of anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months, with a median of around 4 months. i.e. It happens, but not very frequently, and so far I haven't seen a pattern to it.

                                          Does the arduino's stock brownout protection circuit protect against all possible brownout scenarios, or just some of them? Anyone happen to know? Because I don't know the answer, the next step for me is to put it on a UPS to see if it makes any difference.

                                          If your arduino is powered via USB, then my impression is the arduino gives you no additional protection against voltage spikes. Most USB power sources are buck converters. Do buck converters alone typically do well at flattening voltage spikes, or would you need to add a voltage regulator to ensure all voltage spikes get flattened out? Anyone happen to know? Depending on the answer, it may be reason to power through the barrel jack, which goes through the onboard voltage regulator, rather than through the USB.

                                          Regarding use of the built-in watchdog protection, is there a possible brownout/spike scenario that could defeat the watchdog protection in addition to wedge the regular program loop? Or is the watchdog bulletproof in that regard?

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                                          @NeverDie All I can say is that after adding the watchdog I have not had a lockup in 2+ months. Before that, like you, I had random lockups. Based on this positive experience I also added a watchdog to the one repeater I have in my system. Had a brief power outage the other day and everything came back online by itself with no problems.

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