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  • julissesJ julisses

    @ted
    I do not care about the power. I use USB wall charger to power my nodes. I can recommend this model (it is almost the size of jModule after removing the case):
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pc-High-Quality-5V-1A-EU-Plug-AC-Travel-USB-Wall-Charger-for-iPod-for-iPhone/32581266560.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.299.EEQVE8&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6,searchweb201602_5_10017_10005_10006_10034_10021_507_10022_9026_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=7f600ac6-6e52-41b9-9da5-5c4379d7a639

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    #32

    I modified the design to use a XC6206 serial LDO (1uA standby current). I placed an order with dirtypcb. You can find the design here: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

    Will update when I get the board on hand.

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    • julissesJ julisses

      @ted
      I do not care about the power. I use USB wall charger to power my nodes. I can recommend this model (it is almost the size of jModule after removing the case):
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pc-High-Quality-5V-1A-EU-Plug-AC-Travel-USB-Wall-Charger-for-iPod-for-iPhone/32581266560.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.299.EEQVE8&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6,searchweb201602_5_10017_10005_10006_10034_10021_507_10022_9026_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=7f600ac6-6e52-41b9-9da5-5c4379d7a639

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      m26872
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      #33

      @julisses Would you mind posting a photo of what that supply looks like inside? Preferably to this thread: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2477/are-chinese-power-supply-chargers-that-dangerous-to-use

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      • m26872M m26872

        @julisses Would you mind posting a photo of what that supply looks like inside? Preferably to this thread: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2477/are-chinese-power-supply-chargers-that-dangerous-to-use

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        #34

        @m26872
        0_1461143576432_IMAG0204.jpg
        Unsolder USB connector and instead of the connector use wires to connect the jModule.

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          wrote on last edited by sundberg84
          #35

          @julisses - Be carefull...
          More info here: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1607/safe-in-wall-ac-to-dc-transformers/ and as @m26872 said: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2477/are-chinese-power-supply-chargers-that-dangerous-to-use

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          I have a couple of those cheap power supplies running some nodes and they tend to give up after some time as well...
          If you look after them thats fine... but im not to comfident with those cheap usb power supplies any more.
          Just a tip - as I said, have some working fine but be careful.

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            #36

            Do you have a link for the angular pin-header? I noticed after soldering everything and could not get the arduino/jModule together that the angular pinheaders have the plastic in the other way. I tried with a new and just turned the pinheaders in the other way, but then the exposed pins got too short, same result when prying of every pin and turning them around manually.

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              #37

              I had the same problem, I straightened out a set of angular headers, then soldered them into the board, and bend them at the place I needed.
              Not the best solution, but I had to many standard angular pins to go and buy more.

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                #38

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-90-Degree-Bent-Right-Angle-Pin-Header-Breakable-40pin-Single-Strip-2-54mm-/231215719944?hash=item35d587e608:g:cHwAAOSw3ydV2ZCV

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                  #39

                  Nice work!

                  Is there some kind of female plug that could be used instead? It's nicely compact--except for the male pins sticking out.

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                    #40

                    Regardless, I just now ordered some. Thanks!

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                      #41

                      OK, I "get it" now. The male pins that are sticking out are entirely optional.

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                        #42

                        Did anyone do any power consumption tests on these? I cannot get it below 1.5mA. I think I need to mod my Pro Mini and remove the LED and the regulator.

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          Did anyone do any power consumption tests on these? I cannot get it below 1.5mA. I think I need to mod my Pro Mini and remove the LED and the regulator.

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                          @alexsh1
                          The regulator on the board (AMS1117) consumes several mA at idle. You may need to find an alternative that has uA level quiescent current. I modified the board to use a XC6206 serial LDO (1uA standby current, see my previous post). I have the board manufactured by dirtypcb and have made sensors. Will test the battery life soon.

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                            @alexsh1
                            The regulator on the board (AMS1117) consumes several mA at idle. You may need to find an alternative that has uA level quiescent current. I modified the board to use a XC6206 serial LDO (1uA standby current, see my previous post). I have the board manufactured by dirtypcb and have made sensors. Will test the battery life soon.

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                            #44

                            @ted thanks for your prompt reply. I do not have AMS1117 as I'm running Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V. I figured out it was the Mini itself. I had to remove the onboard regulator and the LED and right now my consumption is 6uA.
                            I'm moving away from 5V boards as I think these will be phased out eventually.

                            Good point on AMS1117 - this is not a battery friendly regulator

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                            • T ted

                              I modified the design to use a XC6206 serial LDO (1uA standby current). I placed an order with dirtypcb. You can find the design here: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

                              Will update when I get the board on hand.

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                              Nca78
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #45

                              @ted said:

                              I modified the design to use a XC6206 serial LDO (1uA standby current). I placed an order with dirtypcb. You can find the design here: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

                              Will update when I get the board on hand.

                              Hello @ted, thank you for the link on dirtyPCB, I just ordered some boards. Do you have any feedback related to battery life when running at 5V ?

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                              • AWIA AWI

                                @Qu3Uk I can confirm (from measuring a sample) that the large pad is not connected to anything.

                                However :smirk: it is hard to beat the price of an AMS1117 and the AMS1117 SOT-223 package also has smaller thermal resistance compared to the LE33ACZ TO-92 package (all for what its worth ;-) )

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                                Nca78
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                                @AWI said:

                                @Qu3Uk I can confirm (from measuring a sample) that the large pad is not connected to anything.

                                However :smirk: it is hard to beat the price of an AMS1117

                                Thank you very much for the link, I was about to buy less units for a higher price for another board, then I remembered about seeing a link with very cheap price on this thread :)

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                                  Doh .. I just blindly orded this board but after checking the eagle layout .. could it be that your power wiring is messed up? The AMS1117 is chained behind the ProMini LDO which I guess is very weak. Would it be much better to put the raw-input on the jModule, power the NRF24 with the AMS1117 output and the pro mini?

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                                    zilog
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                                    Are the boards uploaded to DirtyPCBs good and tested? I'd very much like to order a bunch of these but I am confused by the comments about missing pads. :? Can someone please confirm?

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                                    • zilogZ zilog

                                      Are the boards uploaded to DirtyPCBs good and tested? I'd very much like to order a bunch of these but I am confused by the comments about missing pads. :? Can someone please confirm?

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                                      #49

                                      @zilog said:

                                      Are the boards uploaded to DirtyPCBs good and tested? I'd very much like to order a bunch of these but I am confused by the comments about missing pads. :? Can someone please confirm?

                                      What missing pads are your talking about ?
                                      I used the panelized version modified by @ted to use XC6206 regulator and it's running fine (though without regulator at the moment as I have not received them yet, I use CR2032). And if you use a 0.6mm PCB thickness it's really easy to cut with regular cissors.
                                      http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

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                                      • T ted

                                        @alexsh1
                                        The regulator on the board (AMS1117) consumes several mA at idle. You may need to find an alternative that has uA level quiescent current. I modified the board to use a XC6206 serial LDO (1uA standby current, see my previous post). I have the board manufactured by dirtypcb and have made sensors. Will test the battery life soon.

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                                        @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

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                                          #51

                                          How about a version with the SDA & SCL pins also routed to the header?
                                          Sensors like the Si7021 are using the I2C interface

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