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  • skatunS Offline
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    skatun
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    #10

    Hi, will it also measure voltage or just current? Because to calculate power you need voltage as well? Is it possible to add dht22 and one wire temperature sensor to it as well, then it could replace all the temperature controllers for heating cables.

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    • skatunS skatun

      Hi, will it also measure voltage or just current? Because to calculate power you need voltage as well? Is it possible to add dht22 and one wire temperature sensor to it as well, then it could replace all the temperature controllers for heating cables.

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      Koresh
      Contest Winner
      wrote on last edited by Koresh
      #11

      @skatun said:

      Hi, will it also measure voltage or just current? Because to calculate power you need voltage as well? Is it possible to add dht22 and one wire temperature sensor to it as well, then it could replace all the temperature controllers for heating cables.

      Hello. RFM69 module has built-in temperature sensor. If you look on the board carefully you will find a lot if arduino pins. You can use it for any sensors if it is critical for you.
      What controllers are you referencing to?
      About voltage... I think you know voltage in your sockets without any sensors with enough accuracy :smiley:

      Boards and components are under customs clearance now... Expecting :)

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      • KoreshK Koresh

        @skatun said:

        Hi, will it also measure voltage or just current? Because to calculate power you need voltage as well? Is it possible to add dht22 and one wire temperature sensor to it as well, then it could replace all the temperature controllers for heating cables.

        Hello. RFM69 module has built-in temperature sensor. If you look on the board carefully you will find a lot if arduino pins. You can use it for any sensors if it is critical for you.
        What controllers are you referencing to?
        About voltage... I think you know voltage in your sockets without any sensors with enough accuracy :smiley:

        Boards and components are under customs clearance now... Expecting :)

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        wrote on last edited by
        #12

        @Koresh
        Check out this interesting topic on accursy for power measurement:
        Greg

        Do you have data on the inbuilt temperature sensor?

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        • skatunS skatun

          @Koresh
          Check out this interesting topic on accursy for power measurement:
          Greg

          Do you have data on the inbuilt temperature sensor?

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          Koresh
          Contest Winner
          wrote on last edited by Koresh
          #13

          @skatun said:

          @Koresh
          Check out this interesting topic on accursy for power measurement:
          Greg

          Do you have data on the inbuilt temperature sensor?

          Frankly speaking I had added current sensor last night before test board production and I had no goal to measure power very accurate. The main goal of this sensor is ability to check fact of load (forget iron for example :)). Of course I can improve it in further versions, but it is not the main feature now.

          I tested this temperature sensor and it works fine. I'am not sure mysensors library supports it. If it doesn't support it I will try to add this ability after hardware testing.

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          • KoreshK Koresh

            @skatun said:

            @Koresh
            Check out this interesting topic on accursy for power measurement:
            Greg

            Do you have data on the inbuilt temperature sensor?

            Frankly speaking I had added current sensor last night before test board production and I had no goal to measure power very accurate. The main goal of this sensor is ability to check fact of load (forget iron for example :)). Of course I can improve it in further versions, but it is not the main feature now.

            I tested this temperature sensor and it works fine. I'am not sure mysensors library supports it. If it doesn't support it I will try to add this ability after hardware testing.

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            skatun
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            #14

            @Koresh Ok, I am looking forward to hear how your board turns out. So what I am looking for is something to replace this temperature controller. I was thinking about using esp8266 wifi chip instead of the radio, since power is not a big issue since its connected to the power line. Then people like my parents can use it with IFTTT and do not have to add a gateway. I was also thinking about adding a connector for a nextion display, just in case you want to display the temperature, use it as input to set temperature etc. It should also have a better temperature and humidity chip then the one inbuilt I think. Screw terminal to connect floor temperature sensor. Measure power accurately. Well if you would like to cooperate on version2 of your board let me know. I would like to make 20 units or so for now.

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              Koresh
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              #15

              I'm having first success with this board. Power supply works!
              alt text

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              • KoreshK Koresh

                I'm having first success with this board. Power supply works!
                alt text

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                @Koresh great work! You can still make July 30th :bowtie: no pressure :neckbeard:

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                  Koresh
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                  #17

                  And some photos after soldering of the main components and slight washing.
                  alt text

                  alt text

                  Relay trick :)
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                    Sander Teunissen
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                    #18

                    Hi Koresh. Interesting project ! Are you planning to sell some assembled parts too ?

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                      #19

                      I just bumped into these too:
                      https://www.openhardware.io/view/102/Wall-Switch-Insertable-Node#tabs-instructions
                      So interesting ! will these be sold too ?

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                      • Sander TeunissenS Sander Teunissen

                        I just bumped into these too:
                        https://www.openhardware.io/view/102/Wall-Switch-Insertable-Node#tabs-instructions
                        So interesting ! will these be sold too ?

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                        Koresh
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                        #20

                        @Sander-Teunissen
                        I will make a small presentation of new boards tomorrow in Breda. Of course I will try to start mass production asap :) You can check estimated prices of all boards in button size radionode thread.

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                          Hi, it's a very intersting project but what about the protections of the switching power supply ?

                          I see a varistor but neither fuse nor Thermal Cutoffs.

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                          • tonnerre33T tonnerre33

                            Hi, it's a very intersting project but what about the protections of the switching power supply ?

                            I see a varistor but neither fuse nor Thermal Cutoffs.

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                            @tonnerre33 do not worry. It will be in final version + we can use temperature sensor in rfm modult to switch of the relay.

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                              Very nice to see this device today live in Breda ;-)

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                                Very nice project. Looking forward to buy it. It would be nice to have possibility to trigger switch via local button (as in Fibaro) and not only via radio. It's possible from software point of view but board should be modified slightly. Is it in your todo list @Koresh?

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                                  #25

                                  @fisher are you referring to touch sensor button or momentary push button?

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                                    @yury yes

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                                      Very nice project. Looking forward to buy it. It would be nice to have possibility to trigger switch via local button (as in Fibaro) and not only via radio. It's possible from software point of view but board should be modified slightly. Is it in your todo list @Koresh?

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                                      Koresh
                                      Contest Winner
                                      wrote on last edited by Koresh
                                      #27

                                      @fisher said:

                                      Very nice project. Looking forward to buy it. It would be nice to have possibility to trigger switch via local button (as in Fibaro) and not only via radio. It's possible from software point of view but board should be modified slightly. Is it in your todo list @Koresh?

                                      Thanks! We thought about this feature, thanks for your reminder. I've successully added pins for button. You can see new JST connector for button on the screenshot below. I hope this solution is reliable enough

                                      alt text

                                      I almost forgot... Now this board contains SPI flash which implements OTA upgrade ability :wink:

                                      alt text

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                                      • KoreshK Koresh

                                        @fisher said:

                                        Very nice project. Looking forward to buy it. It would be nice to have possibility to trigger switch via local button (as in Fibaro) and not only via radio. It's possible from software point of view but board should be modified slightly. Is it in your todo list @Koresh?

                                        Thanks! We thought about this feature, thanks for your reminder. I've successully added pins for button. You can see new JST connector for button on the screenshot below. I hope this solution is reliable enough

                                        alt text

                                        I almost forgot... Now this board contains SPI flash which implements OTA upgrade ability :wink:

                                        alt text

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @Koresh Perfect! Do you know when the modules will be ready for sale? How they will be sold? Direct sale, ebay, ...?
                                        Do you have further development plans, ex. dimmers, wall node with two relays, blind controllers?

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                                        • KoreshK Koresh

                                          @fisher said:

                                          Very nice project. Looking forward to buy it. It would be nice to have possibility to trigger switch via local button (as in Fibaro) and not only via radio. It's possible from software point of view but board should be modified slightly. Is it in your todo list @Koresh?

                                          Thanks! We thought about this feature, thanks for your reminder. I've successully added pins for button. You can see new JST connector for button on the screenshot below. I hope this solution is reliable enough

                                          alt text

                                          I almost forgot... Now this board contains SPI flash which implements OTA upgrade ability :wink:

                                          alt text

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @Koresh Another thing I forgot. Are you considering to design and sale any plastic case to your modules? Putting raw electronics to tight wall socket is not the safest solution :)

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