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Cheapest way to build wireless buttons?

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  • OitzuO Offline
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    Oitzu
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    Hm.. are there any cheap flat replacement wallswitches out there that feature a microswitch (to connect to the interrupt of the arduino) instead of actually switching a line?

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      Cheap ones not really... possibly some from ali-express, but the problem you run into is that any faceplates with microswitch type buttons are made for home automation such as clipsal C-bus, so the price suddenly goes through the roof (who would seriously pay $500 for 4 x $0.20 microswitches and 4 x $2.00 single colour lcd screens in a c-bus faceplate??). They have to still get certification, and the demand is low.

      You can buy the swith buttons to go into a normal faceplate, but each button will cost more than the microcontroller and radio... It comes down to the question of cheap, good looking or good quality. You can pick any two of those :)

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        what about these:
        http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Livolo-EU-Standard-Remote-Switch-Crystal-Glass-Panel-EU-standard-VL-C702R-11-Wall-Light-Remote/500715_513111555.html

        they have some models with RF and there is a arduino library to control them with RF:
        http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=153525.0

        or you can try and make your own touch panel with cheap touch sensors inside...

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          The wall-switches look great but I already have wireless bulbs that I am trying to control. I was just planning on connecting the wires behind the wall-switch so that the light bulb is always powered so that I can turn it on/off/dim from my phone or a arduino using a REST command when the switch is toggled.

          What about using only a ESP8266 esp-01 only + battery.
          it has two gpio ports. I know that the ESP8266 draws more power than the nrf24 but if the switch is only flicked <10 times a day and it sleeps the rest of the time would it not be possible to run a long time on like a CR2450 battery for a decent time?

          And how about the time from waking it up from deep sleep until it sends the REST command, would that take several seconds as I guess it has to connect to the router every time it wakes up. I would want as little delay as possible from pressing the switch until the light bulbs react.

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            @Cliff-Karlsson said:

            And how about the time from waking it up from deep sleep until it sends the REST command, would that take several seconds

            Yes it will. wi-fi is not the best for home automation , truly speaking. If the bulbs you are controlling only listen to wi-fi, you will have to run a extra wire into the wall-switchbox , and keep and wi-fi node always running (and connected) there.

            Home Assistant / Vera Plus UI7
            ESP8266 GW + mySensors 2.3.2
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              #9

              @Chester Cheap and good looking would suffice. XD because these switches wouldn't switch any real current, safety shouldn't be a problem.
              I could use normal power light switches. The problem is that these are very bulky and leaving not enough space in the box to place a node behind it.

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                Not sure if it fits the cheap option too much, but I have been looking to use:
                http://www.noushouse.com.au/store/product-info.php?Clipsal-CBus-30-Mech-Wall-Switch-pid602.html

                I will be using the 5031NMS, which is the slave button, so it has a very shallow depth, fits the normal faceplates and has lit buttons that run on 5v.

                So not really cheap ($20 AUD per button), but worth it for my install. The HLK power supplies, an arduino nano and RFM69 module should fit in the wall box behind these switches.

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                  @Oitzu said:

                  @Chester Cheap and good looking would suffice. because these switches wouldn't switch any real current, safety shouldn't be a problem.

                  What about NRF24LE1 NRF24L01+ MCU Wireless Transceiver Wireless Communication Module NEW

                  Would that work as a battery powered wireless switch? can I just upload any mysensors sketch to it or is it to limited for this?

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                  • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                    @Oitzu said:

                    @Chester Cheap and good looking would suffice. because these switches wouldn't switch any real current, safety shouldn't be a problem.

                    What about NRF24LE1 NRF24L01+ MCU Wireless Transceiver Wireless Communication Module NEW

                    Would that work as a battery powered wireless switch? can I just upload any mysensors sketch to it or is it to limited for this?

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                    @Cliff-Karlsson It's possible, but not easy: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1774/introducing-mysensors-on-nrf24le1

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                      Ok I think I will try the original idea with the nrf24l01 and arduino pro mini.

                      But I am still waiting for my pro minis to arrive and only have a old one with a ATmega168. I read something about disabling the debug in mysensors.h. Will I still be able to fit an button sketch with wireless using the smaller ATmega168?

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