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Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter

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    hek
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    Looks great @AWI!

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      I need this! Please publish instructions ;)

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        Awsome!

        I'd like to compare your impressive array of measurement devices against my Agilent U1273A. Actually to decide if I need a µCurrent.... Maybe in an upcoming meetup in NL or BE this summer?

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          That looks impressive. I'll be waiting for the instructions too 😀

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            Wow, that looks nice, I'm stucked with my multimeter and couldn't find the parts avaiable for delivery here to build a µcurrent gold.
            Please publish the build instructions !
            (Maybe if you could give use the BOM first, then you'll have plenty of time to publish build instruction before we get delivered ;))

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              Awsome!

              I'd like to compare your impressive array of measurement devices against my Agilent U1273A. Actually to decide if I need a µCurrent.... Maybe in an upcoming meetup in NL or BE this summer?

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              AWI
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              @DavidZH Impressive only by numbers ;-) I am prepared to trade my µCurrent for the Agilent :blush:
              A meetup sounds good..any specific plans yet?

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                There it is Micro (nano) ampere meter (double). I need to add a schematic drawing. Any suggestions/ questions are welcome.

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                  Why all those headers are needed?

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                    Parts ordered :D

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                    • gohanG gohan

                      Why all those headers are needed?

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                      AWI
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                      @gohan As mentioned in the description: I use it as a "patch panel" to distribute the power and ground to different devices. Wiring tends to get messy on my workbench...
                      0_1493190896839_upload-a61c084d-a4db-4964-957e-b3c442ec570e
                      Not mine but similar ;-)

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                        Oh ok, you use it like an integrated breadboard 😀

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                          @gohan As mentioned in the description: I use it as a "patch panel" to distribute the power and ground to different devices. Wiring tends to get messy on my workbench...
                          0_1493190896839_upload-a61c084d-a4db-4964-957e-b3c442ec570e
                          Not mine but similar ;-)

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                          sundberg84
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                          @AWI - did you steal my image on my workbench ;) j/k.
                          We need to revive the old workbench topic again!

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                            Are resistor needed with a tight tolerance or else?

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                              Are resistor needed with a tight tolerance or else?

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                              @gohan No special tolerance resistors needed. The only reason for choosing metal film resistors is that their temperature coefficient is better than carbon types (typical 50ppm/°C compared to 200-500ppm/°C).
                              As you will be calibrating the circuit you can choose from a large range (0.1 Ohm - 100 Ohm) for the shunt. This will only influence the burden voltage / sensitivity and range (Ohm's laws).

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                                @DavidZH Impressive only by numbers ;-) I am prepared to trade my µCurrent for the Agilent :blush:
                                A meetup sounds good..any specific plans yet?

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                                @AWI Lemme think about that..... Uuuuuhm. no... 😈

                                I have no plans for a meetup. Lacking a proper venue for such a thing. Unfortunately.

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                                  A very low current (double) stand alone uA meter to tune MySensors battery nodes..
                                  0_1493111992919_upload-0091f8f7-8b1a-4d26-8c5d-f66cffe3408c
                                  I de' MySensor'ized this project because it is more usefull on the workbench for measuring the very low currents of MySensors battery nodes. I own several Ampere meters including the famous µCurrent. Many of these are not accurate enough or need a lot of wiring and additional equipment (µCurrent). I just wanted something simple and stand alone
                                  Using the low cost HX711 weight scale 24 bit AD converter a sub 10€ cost double µA meter was born. Some characteristics to fit MySensors projects:

                                  • range channel A: ± 20mA 5½-6½ digit µA
                                  • range channel B: ±40mA 5½-6½ digit µA
                                  • burden voltage 1µV/1µA (internal resistance 1Ω)
                                  • 'patch panel' on the connectors.
                                  • easy calibration.

                                  In comparison with the µCurrent and a standard multimeter in uA range
                                  0_1493113275783_upload-2a33c4be-759a-46c6-af8f-57862ecf4e3c

                                  The internals:
                                  0_1493113146906_upload-9152b445-76e8-44e6-8625-530f33a80d20

                                  Although it cannot compare in accuracy with the µCurrent (in combination with a good multimeter) it is more than useable and accurate to do some serious MySensors tuning.

                                  If there is some interest I will try to publish a decent built instruction on Openhardware.io.

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                                  If there is some interest I will try to publish a decent built instruction on Openhardware.io.

                                  I'm interested.

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                                    If there is some interest I will try to publish a decent built instruction on Openhardware.io.

                                    I'm interested.

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                                    Nca78
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                                    @NeverDie said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                    I'm interested.

                                    In case you haven't seen it, it's here :
                                    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6723/micro-nano-ampere-meter-double/5

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                                      @NeverDie said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                      I'm interested.

                                      In case you haven't seen it, it's here :
                                      https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6723/micro-nano-ampere-meter-double/5

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                                      @Nca78 said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                      @NeverDie said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                      I'm interested.

                                      In case you haven't seen it, it's here :
                                      https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6723/micro-nano-ampere-meter-double/5

                                      Thanks! It looks a bit complicated to me. I've used one of these breakout boards (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OPVBEQO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) as a way to measure 24-bit voltage on capacitors, and it works really well. As you can perhaps tell from the photo:
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                                      the chip is fairly simple to use. What I especially liked is that there was already a demo arduino sketch for interfacing with it. That was a real time saver. If I were to build something, I might try that first, if only because it seems like it might be easier (though perhaps, in part, because I'm already comfortable with it). Would using it in conjunction with a sense resistor be all it would take to make an accurate, high resolution current sensor?

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                                        @Nca78 said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                        @NeverDie said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                        I'm interested.

                                        In case you haven't seen it, it's here :
                                        https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6723/micro-nano-ampere-meter-double/5

                                        Thanks! It looks a bit complicated to me. I've used one of these breakout boards (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OPVBEQO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) as a way to measure 24-bit voltage on capacitors, and it works really well. As you can perhaps tell from the photo:
                                        alt text
                                        the chip is fairly simple to use. What I especially liked is that there was already a demo arduino sketch for interfacing with it. That was a real time saver. If I were to build something, I might try that first, if only because it seems like it might be easier (though perhaps, in part, because I'm already comfortable with it). Would using it in conjunction with a sense resistor be all it would take to make an accurate, high resolution current sensor?

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                                        @NeverDie that one would work as well. Maybe harder to get and a little more pricy :moneybag:

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                                          @Nca78 said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                          @NeverDie said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                          I'm interested.

                                          In case you haven't seen it, it's here :
                                          https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6723/micro-nano-ampere-meter-double/5

                                          Thanks! It looks a bit complicated to me. I've used one of these breakout boards (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OPVBEQO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) as a way to measure 24-bit voltage on capacitors, and it works really well. As you can perhaps tell from the photo:
                                          alt text
                                          the chip is fairly simple to use. What I especially liked is that there was already a demo arduino sketch for interfacing with it. That was a real time saver. If I were to build something, I might try that first, if only because it seems like it might be easier (though perhaps, in part, because I'm already comfortable with it). Would using it in conjunction with a sense resistor be all it would take to make an accurate, high resolution current sensor?

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                                          @NeverDie said in Double Micro (nano) Ampere meter:

                                          It looks a bit complicated to me

                                          btw. Which part looks complicated? It's just a few resistors attached to an ADC board (and sketch ready) I am curious on how you can build something simpler with the ADS1220 (which seems to be a better ADC if you are able to find it somewhere ;-))

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