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nRF5 action!

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  • Nca78N Nca78

    @alowhum said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

    @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Nordic-nRF52832-BLE-4-0-4-2-5-0-USB-UART-BLE-dongle-for-computer/420533_32862480389.html

    Cool!

    If you buy one, buy the "black" version, it's a bit bigger but it's because it has a PCB antenna, range will be better.

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    Toyman
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    @nca78 I don't recognize any LDO on the PCB while it has USB power supply. How is 5V converted to 3.3v?

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    • T Toyman

      @nca78 I don't recognize any LDO on the PCB while it has USB power supply. How is 5V converted to 3.3v?

      alowhumA
      alowhumA
      alowhum
      Plugin Developer
      wrote on last edited by
      #1617

      @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @nca78 I don't recognize any LDO on the PCB while it has USB power supply. How is 5V converted to 3.3v?

      I was wondering the exact same thing!

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      • scalzS
        scalzS
        scalz
        Hardware Contributor
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        #1618

        small internal dcdc converter

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        • alowhumA alowhum

          @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          @nca78 I don't recognize any LDO on the PCB while it has USB power supply. How is 5V converted to 3.3v?

          I was wondering the exact same thing!

          Nca78N
          Nca78N
          Nca78
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #1619

          @alowhum said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          @nca78 I don't recognize any LDO on the PCB while it has USB power supply. How is 5V converted to 3.3v?

          I was wondering the exact same thing!

          Look at bottom of page 6 and top left of "schematic" on page 9 of the CP2104 datasheet. It can supply up to 100mA.
          https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/cp2104.pdf

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          • NeverDieN
            NeverDieN
            NeverDie
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            #1620

            Can someone please provide a link to the module being discussed? I tried looking on Aliexpress, and I don't see anything which matches.

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            • NeverDieN NeverDie

              Can someone please provide a link to the module being discussed? I tried looking on Aliexpress, and I don't see anything which matches.

              Nca78N
              Nca78N
              Nca78
              Hardware Contributor
              wrote on last edited by Nca78
              #1621

              @neverdie it's this link, in the description on aliexpress you can see the internal PCB "module"
              https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Nordic-nRF52832-BLE-4-0-4-2-5-0-USB-UART-BLE-dongle-for-computer/420533_32862480389.html

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              • Nca78N Nca78

                @neverdie it's this link, in the description on aliexpress you can see the internal PCB "module"
                https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Nordic-nRF52832-BLE-4-0-4-2-5-0-USB-UART-BLE-dongle-for-computer/420533_32862480389.html

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                Toyman
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                #1622

                @nca78 Got it. So it's kinda Arduino Nano, but nrf52-based.

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                • Nca78N Nca78

                  @neverdie it's this link, in the description on aliexpress you can see the internal PCB "module"
                  https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Nordic-nRF52832-BLE-4-0-4-2-5-0-USB-UART-BLE-dongle-for-computer/420533_32862480389.html

                  NeverDieN
                  NeverDieN
                  NeverDie
                  Hero Member
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1623

                  @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  @neverdie it's this link, in the description on aliexpress you can see the internal PCB "module"
                  https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tag-connect-llc/TC2030-CLIP/TC2030-CLIP-ND/2605371

                  ? Plug of nails?

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                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                    @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    @neverdie it's this link, in the description on aliexpress you can see the internal PCB "module"
                    https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tag-connect-llc/TC2030-CLIP/TC2030-CLIP-ND/2605371

                    ? Plug of nails?

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                    Toyman
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                    #1624

                    @neverdie https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Nordic-nRF52832-BLE-4-0-4-2-5-0-USB-UART-BLE-dongle-for-computer/420533_32862480389.html

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                    • NeverDieN
                      NeverDieN
                      NeverDie
                      Hero Member
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                      #1625

                      I dropped "Bluetooth" from the title of this thread because the thread instead evolved into the MySensors alternative to Bluetooth.

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                      • alowhumA
                        alowhumA
                        alowhum
                        Plugin Developer
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                        #1626

                        How hard, or how much work, would it be to create a version of the MySensors gateway that works on one of those dongles?

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                        • alowhumA alowhum

                          How hard, or how much work, would it be to create a version of the MySensors gateway that works on one of those dongles?

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                          Toyman
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                          #1627

                          @alowhum my understaning, it should work out of the box

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                          • alowhumA
                            alowhumA
                            alowhum
                            Plugin Developer
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                            #1628

                            Really? So something like:

                            • Upload gateway sketch to it (how?)
                            • Select "serial connection" in Domoticz?
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                            • alowhumA alowhum

                              Really? So something like:

                              • Upload gateway sketch to it (how?)
                              • Select "serial connection" in Domoticz?
                              NeverDieN
                              NeverDieN
                              NeverDie
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1629

                              @alowhum You'd still need a programmer

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                              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                @alowhum You'd still need a programmer

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                                Toyman
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                                #1630

                                @neverdie ...and some nifty soldering skills in order to connect to SWDIO/SWDCLK pads

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                                • scalzS
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                                  scalz
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                                  #1631

                                  i don't think you need extraordinary soldering skills, pads on bottom looks easy ;) (pretty sure these are the programming pads)

                                  The right question, imho, would be: can you expect from this dongle the range you would expect from a gateway ?? regarding chip antenna performance and maybe its gnd counterpoise..

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                                  • scalzS scalz

                                    i don't think you need extraordinary soldering skills, pads on bottom looks easy ;) (pretty sure these are the programming pads)

                                    The right question, imho, would be: can you expect from this dongle the range you would expect from a gateway ?? regarding chip antenna performance and maybe its gnd counterpoise..

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                                    Toyman
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                                    #1632

                                    @scalz said in nRF5 action!:

                                    pretty sure these are the programming pads

                                    they are even "labeled" on the x-ray picture below

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                                    • scalzS
                                      scalzS
                                      scalz
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                                      wrote on last edited by scalz
                                      #1633

                                      @Toyman yep, this confirms what i said, not difficult to access.
                                      I didn't read the description..just looking at the pcb layout was enough to tell me poor rf range + no basic usb spec design rules (latter point is maybe not the most critical for most of people, but it just shows 1) designer wasn't aware ?? 2) this is what you get for cheap money, whereas missing parts would have cost few cents..).
                                      Just saying, because maybe this dongle can work well enough for some people.

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                                      • scalzS scalz

                                        @Toyman yep, this confirms what i said, not difficult to access.
                                        I didn't read the description..just looking at the pcb layout was enough to tell me poor rf range + no basic usb spec design rules (latter point is maybe not the most critical for most of people, but it just shows 1) designer wasn't aware ?? 2) this is what you get for cheap money, whereas missing parts would have cost few cents..).
                                        Just saying, because maybe this dongle can work well enough for some people.

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                                        Toyman
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                                        #1634

                                        @scalz actually, it might be ideal as a REPEATER given the form-factor. You just insertt it into any cheap USB charger and voila.

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                                        • scalzS
                                          scalzS
                                          scalz
                                          Hardware Contributor
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                                          #1635

                                          @Toyman that's a valid point, sure. Here, I prefer to not have repeater as much as i can, else i switch to subghz ;)

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