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  • Nca78N Nca78

    @korttoma sorry it seems I messed up with the files, this one is not from sdk.
    Please take the one here, I'll clean up and reorganize later:
    https://github.com/bitcraze/crazyflie2-nrf-mbs/blob/master/include/nrf/nrf_gpio.h

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    @nca78 still not getting anywhere with this. Would you mind ziping your sketch folder, then I should have all the correct files (right?). If I still have issues to compile I must be missing some library or are using the wrong version of something.

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      @nca78 still not getting anywhere with this. Would you mind ziping your sketch folder, then I should have all the correct files (right?). If I still have issues to compile I must be missing some library or are using the wrong version of something.

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      #1542

      @korttoma said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @nca78 still not getting anywhere with this. Would you mind ziping your sketch folder, then I should have all the correct files (right?). If I still have issues to compile I must be missing some library or are using the wrong version of something.

      Sure, but unfortunately I cannot upload a zip file here, please send me your email by private message.

      Ok here is a google drive link, it should be easier:
      https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IhLIx0nHd5KZR9dJ9qA0-_SMGmjEpbKj

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      • T Toyman

        @alowhum there is a whole "movement" of people who are trying to reprogram them. Key issue is openability (how hard is to open it)
        The last easily openable watches are based on nrf51822, but the good thing is that programming pins are easily accesable and even marked SWD/SCLCK.
        Search Ali for ID107HR and google for "roger clark smartwatch"
        I am yet to find a watch that would be both nrf52 based AND easily openable

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        NeverDie
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        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
        #1543

        @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

        I am yet to find a watch that would be both nrf52 based AND easily openable

        Maybe this one?
        https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Leather-Smart-Wristband-Bracelet-NORDIC-NRF52832_60726090170.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.29.6deb404ewQickL

        or, perhaps a little easier, this one?
        https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2018-NEW-Messages-Sync-smart-bracelet_60733935490.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.70.6deb404ewQickL

        or this?
        https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Intelligent-heart-rate-sport-smart-healthy_60734390506.html?spm=a2700.details.maylikever.9.7ec0487aXxyeI2

        I'm guessing that a typical jeweler would have the right tools to open it. Maybe get a little help with that part of it? I doubt it would cost much.

        Fortunately, there seem to be a plethora of different inexpensive nRF52832 watches available. Gobs of them.
        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CACGO-K2-Smart-Watch-Bluetooth-4-0-Nordic-NRF52832-Chip-Sleep-Heart-Rate-Blood-Pressure-Blood/32853451564.html

        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CACGO-K2-Bluetooth-Smartwatch-Waterproof-IP68-Heart-Rate-Blood-Pressure-Blood-Oxygen-Smart-Watch-for-iOS/32851202681.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000014.2.667554e38QctWv&traffic_analysisId=recommend_3035_null_null_null&scm=1007.13338.98644.000000000000000&pvid=b215db98-0db7-446e-a11f-3548284b4575&tpp=1

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

          I am yet to find a watch that would be both nrf52 based AND easily openable

          Maybe this one?
          https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Leather-Smart-Wristband-Bracelet-NORDIC-NRF52832_60726090170.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.29.6deb404ewQickL

          or, perhaps a little easier, this one?
          https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2018-NEW-Messages-Sync-smart-bracelet_60733935490.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.70.6deb404ewQickL

          or this?
          https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Intelligent-heart-rate-sport-smart-healthy_60734390506.html?spm=a2700.details.maylikever.9.7ec0487aXxyeI2

          I'm guessing that a typical jeweler would have the right tools to open it. Maybe get a little help with that part of it? I doubt it would cost much.

          Fortunately, there seem to be a plethora of different inexpensive nRF52832 watches available. Gobs of them.
          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CACGO-K2-Smart-Watch-Bluetooth-4-0-Nordic-NRF52832-Chip-Sleep-Heart-Rate-Blood-Pressure-Blood/32853451564.html

          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CACGO-K2-Bluetooth-Smartwatch-Waterproof-IP68-Heart-Rate-Blood-Pressure-Blood-Oxygen-Smart-Watch-for-iOS/32851202681.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000014.2.667554e38QctWv&traffic_analysisId=recommend_3035_null_null_null&scm=1007.13338.98644.000000000000000&pvid=b215db98-0db7-446e-a11f-3548284b4575&tpp=1

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          @neverdie AFAIK, they are all heavily glued to meet IPX67

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            Just curious design consideration, based on my question to Nordic:

            https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/33448/led-power

            LED consumption will not exceed 0.5ma if the pin is configured as s0s1

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              Just curious design consideration, based on my question to Nordic:

              https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/f/nordic-q-a/33448/led-power

              LED consumption will not exceed 0.5ma if the pin is configured as s0s1

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              #1546

              @toyman Maybe that's enough to light a subset of the pixels on the display?

              In theory these nRF52832 BLE are OTA re-programmable. If someone left the door open for that, then you wouldn't have to crack the case or fight with the glue. Well, maybe someday...

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @toyman Maybe that's enough to light a subset of the pixels on the display?

                In theory these nRF52832 BLE are OTA re-programmable. If someone left the door open for that, then you wouldn't have to crack the case or fight with the glue. Well, maybe someday...

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                @neverdie I was thinking about that, but that's not gonna work. Why? The bootloader that accepts OTA has a private key. The key in the software should match the key.

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                • T Toyman

                  @neverdie I was thinking about that, but that's not gonna work. Why? The bootloader that accepts OTA has a private key. The key in the software should match the key.

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                  #1548

                  @toyman Would this work? Buy two. Sacrifice the first so that you can image the firmware on the chip and extract the password. Use that password to unlock the OTA firmware update for the second one.

                  Or, maybe it's the universal bluetooth password: 1234. Maybe try that first. ;)

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                    #1549

                    afaik mysensors nrf52 isn't working with softdevice yet (same as your 'bootloader' here). there might be some conflicts with nrf52 resources (timers etc.). so you may need to open it for reprogramming.

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                      For me losing Bluetooth would be a feature: it makes you less likely to be tracked while in stores / smart cities.

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                        I turned a ST-Link v2 into a Black Magic Probe using this guide.

                        The Black Magic Probe creates two virtual serial ports. One to program over, and another one. Can that second one be used to listen to Serial output from the NRF52? If so, how can that be set up?

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                        • alowhumA alowhum

                          I turned a ST-Link v2 into a Black Magic Probe using this guide.

                          The Black Magic Probe creates two virtual serial ports. One to program over, and another one. Can that second one be used to listen to Serial output from the NRF52? If so, how can that be set up?

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                          @alowhum Doesn't answer your question, but I use just regular FTDI to listen to the serial output from the nRF5. So, there's always that for you to fall back on.

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                          • alowhumA alowhum

                            I turned a ST-Link v2 into a Black Magic Probe using this guide.

                            The Black Magic Probe creates two virtual serial ports. One to program over, and another one. Can that second one be used to listen to Serial output from the NRF52? If so, how can that be set up?

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                            @alowhum I'm using a BMP that I made from a STM32 Blue Pill. The Serial works just fine.
                            Set a TX pin on your NRF5 in the MyBoardNFR5.h file. Connect it to the RX pin on your BMP. The default pins are TX (PA.2) and RX (PA.3). So if you connect PA.3 on your programmer to the TX pin you select on the NRF5, you should have what you need.
                            To program, select the lower number serial port.
                            To see serial output, select the higher number serial port for your serial monitor.

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                              @nagelc I am using a ST-Link V2 that I turned into a BMP. So i don't have a RX pin on that. But I do have these pins left:

                              • RST
                              • SWIM

                              So you suppose any of these two pins are now RX?

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                                @neverdie I was thinking about that, but that's not gonna work. Why? The bootloader that accepts OTA has a private key. The key in the software should match the key.

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                                @toyman Looks like a DIY watch, using one of the very small nRF52 modules and a small OLED screen (or maybe ePaper?) would be fairly easy to design and put together.
                                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Latest-Big-time-wearable-devices-DIY-electronic-watch-programmable-watch-FOR-ARDUINO/32309696848.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.43.6855283fBpRmHN&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_5711320_10344_10068_10130_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_10341_10548_10698_10545_10697_10696_10084_5722520_10083_10618_10307_5711220_10059_5722620_5722920_308_5722720_5722820_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620-10152,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=e4147df1-7362-4700-8575-4d5fa986cd9a-6&algo_pvid=e4147df1-7362-4700-8575-4d5fa986cd9a&transAbTest=ae803_1&priceBeautifyAB=0

                                Making it aesthetically pleasing is probably much harder! Still, maybe a DIY bridge would tide you over until a more proper watch is available for conversion. Interestingly, it looks like they made their case from stacked pieces of laser cut acrylic.

                                Unfortunately, theirs is impractically large:
                                alt text

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                                • alowhumA alowhum

                                  @nagelc I am using a ST-Link V2 that I turned into a BMP. So i don't have a RX pin on that. But I do have these pins left:

                                  • RST
                                  • SWIM

                                  So you suppose any of these two pins are now RX?

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                                  @alowhum Reset seems unlikely. Maybe SWIM. You could try it.
                                  If you can follow the trace back to the microprocessor, then you could figure out which pin it is. Then you could change to that pin in the BMP files, recompile, reload . . .. . Not sure it's worth all that experimentation when you can just use an FTDI as @NeverDie does.

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                                    Is this an alternative programmer or is it STM32 only? https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/CJMCU-JLINK-Support-for-SWD-s-JLINK-Simplified-Edition-Supports-STM32-SWD-Debugging-3-Wire/1245924_32792177272.html

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                                      Is this an alternative programmer or is it STM32 only? https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/CJMCU-JLINK-Support-for-SWD-s-JLINK-Simplified-Edition-Supports-STM32-SWD-Debugging-3-Wire/1245924_32792177272.html

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                                      @gohan J-Link is in the list of supported programmers at https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5 so it should work

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                                      • alowhumA alowhum

                                        @nagelc I am using a ST-Link V2 that I turned into a BMP. So i don't have a RX pin on that. But I do have these pins left:

                                        • RST
                                        • SWIM

                                        So you suppose any of these two pins are now RX?

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                                        @alowhum just buy a real Blue Pill (around $2) and convert it into BMP.
                                        Then you''ll get both a programmer and an USB-serial that you can use to get data from NRF52 UART

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                                        • T Toyman

                                          @alowhum just buy a real Blue Pill (around $2) and convert it into BMP.
                                          Then you''ll get both a programmer and an USB-serial that you can use to get data from NRF52 UART

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                                          @toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                          @alowhum just buy a real Blue Pill (around $2) and convert it into BMP.
                                          Then you''ll get both a programmer and an USB-serial that you can use to get data from NRF52 UART

                                          Thank you for this idea, I didn't receive my STM32 (got lost somewhere in transit) but I have 2 unused blue pills, I'll try that tomorrow.
                                          "Conversion" process is easy to find: https://medium.com/@paramaggarwal/converting-an-stm32f103-board-to-a-black-magic-probe-c013cf2cc38c

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