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    sundberg84
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    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
    #341

    0_1517069081859_IMG_20180127_170256.jpg

    I'm building a wine rack for my wife in a celler room (currently 14 dgr with 4 dgr outside). I mowed my beer cooler temp node (rfm radio) to measure how much the temp changed over the day. I wrote a script in Lua/Domoticz that each time it changes 1dgr it should notify me. Apparently is a stable temp the most important to store wine.

    All ideas how I can automate the shit out of this wine-room are appreciated.

    • LCD display with temp/hum (both on the floor and celling) (Red needs apparently cooler than white wine... Or the opposite).

    • I'm thinking about to try a passive cooler. A burried hose/pipe in a loop with a 12v fan/pump and temp. My idea is that if I rotate the 14dgr air in a say 20m pipe under ground it should cool the air some . This needs to be automated to keep the temp stable.

    • light. Some sort of led strips.

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      0_1517069081859_IMG_20180127_170256.jpg

      I'm building a wine rack for my wife in a celler room (currently 14 dgr with 4 dgr outside). I mowed my beer cooler temp node (rfm radio) to measure how much the temp changed over the day. I wrote a script in Lua/Domoticz that each time it changes 1dgr it should notify me. Apparently is a stable temp the most important to store wine.

      All ideas how I can automate the shit out of this wine-room are appreciated.

      • LCD display with temp/hum (both on the floor and celling) (Red needs apparently cooler than white wine... Or the opposite).

      • I'm thinking about to try a passive cooler. A burried hose/pipe in a loop with a 12v fan/pump and temp. My idea is that if I rotate the 14dgr air in a say 20m pipe under ground it should cool the air some . This needs to be automated to keep the temp stable.

      • light. Some sort of led strips.

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      #342

      @sundberg84 Yeah, this brings back memories, particularly of quite a few hangovers.
      I used 3 and four wide fireclay pipes for bottle storage, they were used for ducts back in the day before plastics took over, cable went optic fibre. I noticed recently here they are back in stock in stores as....yep...wine storage racks.... but wacko pricing relatively...
      The beauty of the fireclay was it's slow temperature and humidity change, and this formed the bulk of the thermal mass in the cellar I made below the floor.
      I used a 150mm glazed ceramic drainage pipe dug in under the garden as a loop (rope caulked joints - anybody remember them), from memory down about 1.5m, both avoiding frosts and baking sun, don't think the temperature varied over a degree all year round, the ground acting as a massive heatsink which maintained a constant temperature all year round.
      Only when the hatch was opened did the temperature jump, a small fan kicked in when the hatch was closed and ran for 30 minutes, a second contact switched on the lights and shut them off, long before LEDs were so prevalent, old reliable (until you were depending on them) incandescent bulbs.
      That was it really.
      Biggest problem I found was humidity in the early days, probably the fresh construction...

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      • NeverDieN Offline
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        #343

        My wine rack is at the store. ;)

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          0_1517069081859_IMG_20180127_170256.jpg

          I'm building a wine rack for my wife in a celler room (currently 14 dgr with 4 dgr outside). I mowed my beer cooler temp node (rfm radio) to measure how much the temp changed over the day. I wrote a script in Lua/Domoticz that each time it changes 1dgr it should notify me. Apparently is a stable temp the most important to store wine.

          All ideas how I can automate the shit out of this wine-room are appreciated.

          • LCD display with temp/hum (both on the floor and celling) (Red needs apparently cooler than white wine... Or the opposite).

          • I'm thinking about to try a passive cooler. A burried hose/pipe in a loop with a 12v fan/pump and temp. My idea is that if I rotate the 14dgr air in a say 20m pipe under ground it should cool the air some . This needs to be automated to keep the temp stable.

          • light. Some sort of led strips.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #344

          @sundberg84

          Why not just collect the temperatures over time, in f.ex. influxdb, and then use grafana to analyze data? (Instead of pushing messages to your phone whenever the temperature changes..)

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          • tbowmoT tbowmo

            @sundberg84

            Why not just collect the temperatures over time, in f.ex. influxdb, and then use grafana to analyze data? (Instead of pushing messages to your phone whenever the temperature changes..)

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            wrote on last edited by sundberg84
            #345

            @tbowmo well I have Domoticz to collect data. Maybe your alternative is much better but I can't change from Domoticz without redo everything. The push is just to get a heads-up how often or changes but I can go into Domoticz and follow 15 min updates as well on a daily, weekly and monthly graph .

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            • tbowmoT tbowmo

              @sundberg84

              Why not just collect the temperatures over time, in f.ex. influxdb, and then use grafana to analyze data? (Instead of pushing messages to your phone whenever the temperature changes..)

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              @tbowmo as the temperature doesn't change that quickly, the 5 minutes Domoticz interval it is OK. As soon as you see a daily variance within your requirements, you are good

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                #347

                Was I right to assume that the push of temperature changes to the phone every degree was simply for the initial testing to see quickly how often it would change?

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                  I finally got a BT832 (NRF52832 from Fanstel) to talk to my NRF24 gateway. I got the NFR5s a while ago. Made a quick breakout board (quick to design, but slow delivery). In the mean time, I configured a STM32 "Blue Pill" as a Blackmagic Probe to program it. I had to get the latest Sandeep Mistry NRF5 files from github in order for it to support the blackmagic probe, but . . . it worked : ) So far I have just run the MockMySensors and it shows up on Domoticz.
                  0_1517119518925_20180128_004035.jpg

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                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                    @tbowmo well I have Domoticz to collect data. Maybe your alternative is much better but I can't change from Domoticz without redo everything. The push is just to get a heads-up how often or changes but I can go into Domoticz and follow 15 min updates as well on a daily, weekly and monthly graph .

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                    tbowmo
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #349

                    @sundberg84
                    With a little bit of nodered injected in the stream, you could have domoticz running without ever noticing that influx etc is getting the data as well :)

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                    • sundberg84S Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                      #350

                      6.3 days or 152hours just inst good enough - this is what my logger managed to do with 2xAA debugging a temp/hum node sending every 15min. Its below 50% to target (14 days) but this included the leds was on all the time... how much can a 2x leds do :neutral_face: ?? Next experiemtn...

                      0_1517140948433_Logger6h.png

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #351

                        @sundberg84
                        @tbowmo
                        Domoticz can also push the data to influx DB. See Settings>More Options>Data Push

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                          #352

                          So for a few days now I have been working on my idea for a homebrew CNC machine made from mostly salvaged parts. This weekend I made some good progress getting the Y axis drive assembly mostly done. I have not tested anything yet, but I hope to in the next few days. Anyways, here is what I have...

                          The stepper motor is one salvaged from an old dot matrix printer. The gear on it was press fit on the shaft with no real way to get it off, so I opted to make a geared drive assembly. I realize that this will slow the Y axis down, but it should also give it a bit more precision. Below is the stepper motor.
                          0_1517204931227_b940ccdf-0d30-4a67-bfe2-071e6eec469a-image.png

                          For mounting it, I designed this adapter plate which carries a steel roller bearing for the screw shaft.
                          0_1517205082429_fe119ca7-5e6d-48b2-bc48-ba86a09ed33c-image.png

                          This is an early mounting plate design before I added the upper and lower mounting tabs. This shows the gear with the shaft attached. The gear was made using an OpenSCAD gear library.
                          0_1517205252644_2d35f97c-b9b9-482c-b811-f7562f164049-image.png

                          Yesterday I designed the bracket that attaches to and drives the Y axis platter/build plate (Sorry, forgot to take a decent pic of that part).
                          0_1517205734481_60ec4f33-b3c8-4ead-83cd-ca103751669d-image.png

                          Today I was able to finish the front and rear frame braces and got parts rough fitted together. the 2 rails with the small white linear bearings are some rods that were salvaged from a couple old scanners. These were used as the rail for the scanner head. I have pics of the full assembly as well as the motor assembly mounted on the rear brace.
                          0_1517205974794_758e9eae-82f2-462d-968a-17ea5ca0307e-image.png 0_1517205984333_5e431750-c309-480c-98a4-5475945bd9a6-image.png

                          I can't say how well the design will work, if at all, but it has been a fun journey so far trying.

                          Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                          Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                          • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                            So for a few days now I have been working on my idea for a homebrew CNC machine made from mostly salvaged parts. This weekend I made some good progress getting the Y axis drive assembly mostly done. I have not tested anything yet, but I hope to in the next few days. Anyways, here is what I have...

                            The stepper motor is one salvaged from an old dot matrix printer. The gear on it was press fit on the shaft with no real way to get it off, so I opted to make a geared drive assembly. I realize that this will slow the Y axis down, but it should also give it a bit more precision. Below is the stepper motor.
                            0_1517204931227_b940ccdf-0d30-4a67-bfe2-071e6eec469a-image.png

                            For mounting it, I designed this adapter plate which carries a steel roller bearing for the screw shaft.
                            0_1517205082429_fe119ca7-5e6d-48b2-bc48-ba86a09ed33c-image.png

                            This is an early mounting plate design before I added the upper and lower mounting tabs. This shows the gear with the shaft attached. The gear was made using an OpenSCAD gear library.
                            0_1517205252644_2d35f97c-b9b9-482c-b811-f7562f164049-image.png

                            Yesterday I designed the bracket that attaches to and drives the Y axis platter/build plate (Sorry, forgot to take a decent pic of that part).
                            0_1517205734481_60ec4f33-b3c8-4ead-83cd-ca103751669d-image.png

                            Today I was able to finish the front and rear frame braces and got parts rough fitted together. the 2 rails with the small white linear bearings are some rods that were salvaged from a couple old scanners. These were used as the rail for the scanner head. I have pics of the full assembly as well as the motor assembly mounted on the rear brace.
                            0_1517205974794_758e9eae-82f2-462d-968a-17ea5ca0307e-image.png 0_1517205984333_5e431750-c309-480c-98a4-5475945bd9a6-image.png

                            I can't say how well the design will work, if at all, but it has been a fun journey so far trying.

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                            #353

                            @dbemowsk
                            Well it looks as if your 3D-printer works fine :grinning:

                            What I would be slightly worried about is if with the given size of the rods the stiffness of the structure would be enough.
                            Hope to see more from this project in the near future.
                            Good luck!

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                              @dbemowsk
                              Well it looks as if your 3D-printer works fine :grinning:

                              What I would be slightly worried about is if with the given size of the rods the stiffness of the structure would be enough.
                              Hope to see more from this project in the near future.
                              Good luck!

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                              @boozz I will be curious to see if I can get enough precision to do PCBs. I have yet to buy a GRBL board to control it. For now I am going to use the UNO that I have for testing just to do test runs of the servos until I get one. This is the one I have been looking at:
                              https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arduino-CNC-Shield-Kit-UNO-Board-4x-DRV8825-Drivers-Package-Deal-FREE-USA-SHIP/292174947187?hash=item4406fbe373:g:A0sAAOSwJThZpeKr
                              I will also have to figure out the gear ratios of the motor assemblies once I am done because I am sure I will need them to calibrate the GRBL setup. I know on this part of it I have about a 4.8:1 ratio from the motor to the large gear, but I'll have to figure out steps per cm or steps per mm or something. If anyone knows a good way of figuring this out I am all ears.

                              Thanks for the upvotes.

                              Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                              Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                              • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                @boozz I will be curious to see if I can get enough precision to do PCBs. I have yet to buy a GRBL board to control it. For now I am going to use the UNO that I have for testing just to do test runs of the servos until I get one. This is the one I have been looking at:
                                https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arduino-CNC-Shield-Kit-UNO-Board-4x-DRV8825-Drivers-Package-Deal-FREE-USA-SHIP/292174947187?hash=item4406fbe373:g:A0sAAOSwJThZpeKr
                                I will also have to figure out the gear ratios of the motor assemblies once I am done because I am sure I will need them to calibrate the GRBL setup. I know on this part of it I have about a 4.8:1 ratio from the motor to the large gear, but I'll have to figure out steps per cm or steps per mm or something. If anyone knows a good way of figuring this out I am all ears.

                                Thanks for the upvotes.

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                                #355

                                @dbemowsk It will save you the hassle of upgrading if you buy a control board with GRBL1.1f already built in.

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                                • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                  @boozz I will be curious to see if I can get enough precision to do PCBs. I have yet to buy a GRBL board to control it. For now I am going to use the UNO that I have for testing just to do test runs of the servos until I get one. This is the one I have been looking at:
                                  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arduino-CNC-Shield-Kit-UNO-Board-4x-DRV8825-Drivers-Package-Deal-FREE-USA-SHIP/292174947187?hash=item4406fbe373:g:A0sAAOSwJThZpeKr
                                  I will also have to figure out the gear ratios of the motor assemblies once I am done because I am sure I will need them to calibrate the GRBL setup. I know on this part of it I have about a 4.8:1 ratio from the motor to the large gear, but I'll have to figure out steps per cm or steps per mm or something. If anyone knows a good way of figuring this out I am all ears.

                                  Thanks for the upvotes.

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                                  @dbemowsk said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                  If anyone knows a good way of figuring this out I am all ears.

                                  It would expect making a large movement using a defined number of steps, and measuring the actual distance moved with a caliper will give you a rather accurate steps/mm.
                                  However, I hope this ratio is constant over the whole range, given the 3d printed gears and expected backlash...

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                                    @dbemowsk said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                    If anyone knows a good way of figuring this out I am all ears.

                                    It would expect making a large movement using a defined number of steps, and measuring the actual distance moved with a caliper will give you a rather accurate steps/mm.
                                    However, I hope this ratio is constant over the whole range, given the 3d printed gears and expected backlash...

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                                    @yveaux as far as the backlash, i had already thought of that. I have 2 coupler nuts with a spring in between to handle the little bit of backlash that there is. I only had a thin spring though. I want to find a stronger one.

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                                    Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                      0_1517069081859_IMG_20180127_170256.jpg

                                      I'm building a wine rack for my wife in a celler room (currently 14 dgr with 4 dgr outside). I mowed my beer cooler temp node (rfm radio) to measure how much the temp changed over the day. I wrote a script in Lua/Domoticz that each time it changes 1dgr it should notify me. Apparently is a stable temp the most important to store wine.

                                      All ideas how I can automate the shit out of this wine-room are appreciated.

                                      • LCD display with temp/hum (both on the floor and celling) (Red needs apparently cooler than white wine... Or the opposite).

                                      • I'm thinking about to try a passive cooler. A burried hose/pipe in a loop with a 12v fan/pump and temp. My idea is that if I rotate the 14dgr air in a say 20m pipe under ground it should cool the air some . This needs to be automated to keep the temp stable.

                                      • light. Some sort of led strips.

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                                      @sundberg84
                                      Redundancy, maybe you should get a second temp/humidity measurement device, just in case your current beer cooler temp node breaks down...

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                                      • bjacobseB bjacobse

                                        @sundberg84
                                        Redundancy, maybe you should get a second temp/humidity measurement device, just in case your current beer cooler temp node breaks down...

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                                        @bjacobse or get redundant beer coolers :) Important to always have cool beer.

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                                        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                          @bjacobse or get redundant beer coolers :) Important to always have cool beer.

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                                          @mfalkvidd
                                          True but usually wines have a higher price and a more valuable - not starting a discussing/flame war what is best to drink...

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