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After I wrote the message above I realised this is another topic in fact, I hope you don't mind. To explain a bit more what happens, here is some debug output. Each 10 seconds an increasing counter is sent to the gateway, and after each sent message the TX power is printed on the screen. 46219 TSM:UPL:OK 46252 TSM:READY:ID=31,PAR=0,DIS=1 54607 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:4 Power is 3 64618 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:5 Power is 2 74629 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:6 Power is 1 85655 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:7 Power is 1 94650 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=OK:8 Power is 0 105168 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:9 Power is -1 114671 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:10 Power is -2 124682 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:11 Power is -3 135708 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:12 Power is -3 144703 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=OK:13 Power is -4 154714 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:14 Power is -5 164724 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:15 Power is -6 174735 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:16 Power is -7 184745 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:17 Power is -8 195772 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:18 Power is -8 204980 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=OK:19 Power is -9 214990 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:20 Power is -10 225804 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:21 Power is -10 235438 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=OK:22 Power is -11 245825 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:23 Power is -11 255836 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=NACK:24 Power is -11 265846 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=2,st=NACK:25 Power is -11 275857 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=3,st=NACK:26 Power is -11 285868 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=4,st=NACK:27 Power is -11 Here are a couple of NACKs, so this is on the limit of TX power IMO. Still one succesfull one, which decreases the power even more. 294862 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=5,st=OK:28 Power is -12 305889 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:29 Power is -12 315899 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=NACK:30 Power is -12 325910 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=2,st=NACK:31 Power is -12 335921 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=3,st=NACK:32 Power is -12 345931 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=4,st=NACK:33 Power is -12 355942 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=5,st=NACK:34 Power is -12 Five failed messages and the node starts finding its parent. But also that fails. 356024 !TSM:READY:UPL FAIL,SNP 356073 TSM:FPAR 356089 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=6,st=OK: 358203 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY 358219 TSM:FPAR 358252 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 360366 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY 360382 TSM:FPAR 360415 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 362512 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY 362528 TSM:FPAR 362561 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 364675 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL 364691 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1 364724 TSM:FAIL:DIS 364740 TSF:TDI:TSL 364888 !TSF:SND:TNR Power is -12 374784 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT 374800 TSM:INIT 374833 TSM:INIT:TSP OK 374865 TSM:INIT:STATID=31 374898 TSF:SID:OK,ID=31 374915 TSM:FPAR 374947 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 375046 !TSF:SND:TNR Now the Transportlayer is re-initialised and the power level goes to 5, which makes the messages being ACKed again. This starts the process all over again. Power is 5 375734 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-31,s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0 375799 TSF:MSG:FPAR OK,ID=0,D=1 377044 TSM:FPAR:OK 377061 TSM:ID 377077 TSM:ID:OK 377110 TSM:UPL 377192 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1 377913 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-31,s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1 377978 TSF:MSG:PONG RECV,HP=1 378028 TSM:UPL:OK 378044 TSM:READY:ID=31,PAR=0,DIS=1 385105 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:37 Power is 3 395116 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:38 Power is 2 405127 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:39 Power is 1 415137 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:40 Power is 0 425148 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:41 Power is -1 435159 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:42 Power is -2 445169 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:43 Power is -3 455180 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:44 Power is -4 465207 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:45 Power is -5 475201 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:46 Power is -6 485720 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:47 Power is -7 495222 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:48 Power is -8 505446 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:49 Power is -9 516259 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:50 Power is -9 525254 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=OK:51 Power is -10 536281 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:52 Power is -10 546291 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=NACK:53 Power is -10 556302 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=2,st=NACK:54 Power is -10 565510 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=3,st=OK:55 Power is -11 576323 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:56 Power is -11 586334 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=NACK:57 Power is -11 596344 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=2,st=NACK:58 Power is -11 606355 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=3,st=NACK:59 Power is -11 615989 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=4,st=OK:60 Power is -12 626376 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:61 Power is -12 636387 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=NACK:62 Power is -12 646397 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=2,st=NACK:63 Power is -12 656408 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=3,st=NACK:64 Power is -12 666419 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=4,st=NACK:65 Power is -12 676429 !TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=5,st=NACK:66 Power is -12 676511 !TSM:READY:UPL FAIL,SNP 676560 TSM:FPAR 676577 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=6,st=OK: 678690 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY 678707 TSM:FPAR 678739 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 680853 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY 680869 TSM:FPAR 680902 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 682999 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY 683016 TSM:FPAR 683048 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 685162 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL 685178 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1 685211 TSM:FAIL:DIS 685228 TSF:TDI:TSL 685375 !TSF:SND:TNR Power is -12 695271 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT 695287 TSM:INIT 695320 TSM:INIT:TSP OK 695353 TSM:INIT:STATID=31 695386 TSF:SID:OK,ID=31 695402 TSM:FPAR 695435 ?TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK: 695533 !TSF:SND:TNR Power is 5 696369 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-31,s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0 696434 TSF:MSG:FPAR OK,ID=0,D=1 697548 TSM:FPAR:OK 697565 TSM:ID 697581 TSM:ID:OK 697614 TSM:UPL 697696 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1 698236 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-31,s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1 698302 TSF:MSG:PONG RECV,HP=1 698335 TSM:UPL:OK 698351 TSM:READY:ID=31,PAR=0,DIS=1 705593 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:69 Power is 3 715603 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:70 Power is 2 725827 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:71 Power is 1 735641 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:72 Power is 0 745635 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:73 Power is -1 755646 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:74 Power is -2 765657 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:75 Power is -3 775667 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:76 Power is -4 785678 TSF:MSG:SEND,31-31-0-0,s=22,c=1,t=23,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:77

@NeverDie Nah, I'm fine. It's always helpful to get opinions and views from others, especially if they are more experienced in the matter, if only to set one's own viewpoint straight. I'm grateful for all you guys replies, but I don't feel like bothering Microchip with this. Regarding Nordic - besides the circulating copies / clones (like the SI24R1), I guess it's also not helping that they are fabless, unlike Atmel / Microchip, in which case it seems totally reasonable that the various fabs may have slight marking variations. I just didn't expect that from those ATmegas which seem to have been produced in one and the same factory. But it's certainly a neat touch from Nordic to offer a free test.

Oh shhhhoot. So by switching from 328p8m to nanoatmega328p in order to fix some issues, I actually made it worse, because the latter sets F_CPU to 16000000L. What an unbelievable oversight on my part. That explains why I had to monitor the serial output at 1/16th of the baud rate. Overwriting the frequency in the config file with board_build.f_cpu = 8000000L did the trick. No need to adjust the SPI bus speed anymore. Baud rate set to 57600, monitoring at 7200 (1/8th, CKDIV8 enabled). All good! Thanks for pointing that out, @tekka! I feel embarrassed, that I didn't notice that myself. Small update -- after some more testing, setting board_build.f_cpu = 1000000L and #define MY_BAUD_RATE 9600 seems to be even better with CKDIV8 enabled. 1ms is actually 1ms and communication between nodes is way more responsive. Powering the sensor node on, initializing, finding parent, presentation, etc,.. is now done withing 6 seconds instead of roughly 30 seconds.

No, I didn't seriously consider it. I have a minimal programming circuit with ZIF-sockets to program DIPs, but those are easily removed from a circuit (assuming they are put into sockets and not soldered) in case they need to be reproprammed . Doing this with a TQFP seems like a one-way road, so I think a way for in-circuit programming should be provided regardless. I mean, I didn't have to reprogram my first revision nodes so far, but I might want to add signing support later on or upgrade to MySensors 2.4 or 3.0 for some reason, so it should definitely be possible, but I'm not too worried, if the programming process is a little cumbersome, if the SOICbite experiment doesn't work out.